As above, how do you get it out?

Got my facelift one out easy as pie, the screw beind the ash tray and the 2 behind the headunit then it just unclips.

But how do you get the pre-facelift ones out?

check faq/maintainence sections - i think there is something there...

Climate or non-climate?

looking at photos, non ecc

Radio out, to screws behind the ashtray, pull the heat, fan speed and direction control nobs of and you will find four more screw.....remove these and jobs a good un.

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 22:08:

Climate or non-climate?

Non-climate.

Checked the maintance guides, got JayW's facelift removal, and MarkDTM's dash pannel (speed, rev, mid ect..)

I want to remove the heater control / dash buttons ect...

I want to see if i can get the loom from a scrappy one tomorow.

Also last time at the scrappy i could not remove the headunit... it came out about half way then just jammed.

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 22:11:

Radio out, to screws behind the ashtray, pull the heat, fan speed and direction control nobs of and you will find four more screw.....remove these and jobs a good un.

Ahh did't relise the control knobs came off (some expert me  ::)) - I am used to facelifts  :P

Removing the radio, i got one out half way but then jammed, i can see the 4 tiny allen key type screws on the front. I got them loose and almost got the unit out...

the grub screws on radio? remove them, and use removal keys to remove radio!

TheBoy wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 22:18:

the grub screws on radio? remove them, and use removal keys to remove radio!

Yep got the grub screws off - and i managed to get the radio almost out.

The keys just give you more leverage to wiggle the radio out?

Unfortunely don't have ane removal keys. (only double din) Screw drivers did't seam to make it budge.

no the keys engage in the locks and spread em to allow you to remove the radio brute force as always can be substituted for correct tools

mr des wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 22:42:

no the keys engage in the locks and spread em to allow you to remove the radio brute force as always can be substituted for correct tools

*reaches for the birmingham hammer....*

Or as we used to use in Liverpool, a bent metal coathanger ;)

Ive used an old metal coat hanger cut in two and shaped. Worked a treat

Part of the cage might be sticking out?

Elite Pete wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 22:49:

Ive used an old metal coat hanger cut in two and shaped. Worked a treat

Good idea, got a few kicking around...

4 long thin nails is what I use when I can't find the proper keys. Bit more difficult to use if the radio wants to be a sod, but still possible.

TheBoy wrote on 18. Aug 2006 at 08:46:

4 long thin nails is what I use when I can't find the proper keys. Bit more difficult to use if the radio wants to be a sod, but still possible.

I've used this method with great sucess in the past. The proper removal tools are only about £2 from most motorshop though. I'm sure the student budget could stretch to a set ::)