My suspension is a bit floaty and is down a little at the back, so I want to stiffen it a little, what suggestions are there please?

Paving slab or big heavy toolbox in the boot.
It used to work on the 3 litre capri. ;D

But seriously have you checked for broken springs?
Is this something its always done or just a recent thing?
Maybe the shocks are getting a bit tired I'm sure the rear suspension must get more of a hammering from your towable home.

Broken springs was the first thing I checked - I think they are tired, but I would prefer stiffer springing and better damping.

It maybe the shocks.......may parents used to tow.....until i convinced them otherwise  ;)

My Dads car used to go thro shocks every couple of years.....worth a look at  :y

Taxi Driver wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 19:03:

It maybe the shocks.......may parents used to tow.....until i convinced them otherwise  ;) My Dads car used to go thro shocks every couple of years.....worth a look at  :y

Shocks are not brilliant, but the back is a bit down and I would like it a bit firmer.

Shock absorbers (single)
Saloon exc. lowered sports chassis/self-levelling suspension 90542942
£71.00 retail, £60.38 trade £44.60 TC all plus vat.

Martin Imber wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 19:05:

Taxi Driver wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 19:03: It maybe the shocks.......may parents used to tow.....until i convinced them otherwise  ;) My Dads car used to go thro shocks every couple of years.....worth a look at  :y Shocks are not brilliant, but the back is a bit down and I would like it a bit firmer.

Guess you could try estate springs then......i believe they are firmer......but changing the shocks and springs for new might sort the prob  :-/

OK Then lets try it another way

1) How does my suspension differ to that of the MV6?

2) Or what about These

Martin Imber wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 20:43:

OK Then lets try it another way 1) How does my suspension differ to that of the MV6? 2) Or what about These

or remove the ironing board from the boot lid :P

TheBoy wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 20:54:

Martin Imber wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 20:43: OK Then lets try it another way 1) How does my suspension differ to that of the MV6? 2) Or what about These or remove the ironing board from the boot lid :P

>:( Oi I drilled holes for that - OK I know it is only a copy of the Irmsher but I like it and it does help at speed, feels more planted at the back

Martin Imber wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 21:18:

TheBoy wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 20:54: Martin Imber wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 20:43: OK Then lets try it another way 1) How does my suspension differ to that of the MV6? 2) Or what about These or remove the ironing board from the boot lid :P >:( ..... it does help at speed, feels more planted at the back

Thats 'cos yer springs and shocks are shot!!   ;D

I got rear 30 mm lowered new springs for my MV6 for £35 delivered of e-bay from Irmscher.  Worth shopping around.....

Eibach are good kit as well, though.

hotel21 wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 21:48:

Martin Imber wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 21:18: TheBoy wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 20:54: Martin Imber wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 20:43: OK Then lets try it another way 1) How does my suspension differ to that of the MV6? 2) Or what about These or remove the ironing board from the boot lid :P >:( ..... it does help at speed, feels more planted at the back Thats 'cos yer springs and shocks are shot!!   ;D I got rear 30 mm lowered new springs for my MV6 for £35 delivered of e-bay from Irmscher.  Worth shopping around..... Eibach are good kit as well, though.

My wife commented the car was bouncy. Worked out she liked the 2.0CD seats, and ride of the MV6

Don't want normal shocks and springs, the 2.0 were not shot and that was bouncy when towing.

Best for suspension was the MV6

Quote>"Don't want normal shocks and springs, the 2.0 were not shot and that was bouncy when towing.">


Have you measured the nose weight of your van, could be too heavy there.
What about these http://www.springassisters.co.uk/singlecoilpicpage.htm had them fitted to my last car, they firmed up the rear suspension ok. Not got around to fitting to the Omega yet although it's not bad with the van attached.

Mick

MickAP wrote on 09. Sep 2007 at 02:53:

Quote>"Don't want normal shocks and springs, the 2.0 were not shot and that was bouncy when towing."> Have you measured the nose weight of your van, could be too heavy there. What about these http://www.springassisters.co.uk/singlecoilpicpage.htm had them fitted to my last car, they firmed up the rear suspension ok. Not got around to fitting to the Omega yet although it's not bad with the van attached. Mick

I load it to 75kg

Got a gas tank in boot with the weight of 1/2 to 3/4 of an adult roughly.

I will put stiffer springs - just need to know what to use

Martin Imber wrote on 08. Sep 2007 at 20:43:

OK Then lets try it another way 1) How does my suspension differ to that of the MV6? 2) Or what about These

they springs are cheaper from http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/eibach/eibach_vauxhall.htmlif your wanting to get them

Anything known about these?

set 1

Replaced my springs and shock in Jan 07.


Spoke to AutoVaux and they got Heavy duty springs P/n HD90542361 @ £65.45 each.

These were for the 3.0  :y

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Omega/Gen/Springs3-1.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/issunaz/Omega/Gen/Springs1.jpg

www.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-2-2-2-0-2-5-2-5TD-3-0-REAR-COIL-SPRINGS_W0QQitemZ250040364336QQihZ015QQcategoryZ10404QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

got these springs for my omega - much firmer than ones they replaced - needed coil compressor to slot them in place.

Plus KYB gas adjust shocks from www.buypartsby.co.uk at £21.74 each - direct replacement for original shocks and are specifically designed for cars that carry heavy loads or tow.

Brilliant setup rides much firmer and copes easily with van on back ie no pitch and roll

Those KYB gas adjust shockers seem a good price from Buypartsby. They don't seem to list anything for self levelling Omegas. Anyone got any cheap suggestions please?

olive

Varche wrote on 10. Sep 2007 at 16:56:

Those KYB gas adjust shockers seem a good price from Buypartsby. They don't seem to list anything for self levelling Omegas. Anyone got any cheap suggestions please? olive

I think the self levelling shocks are Vaux specific, Mine came in Vaux boxes and the HD springs are a Vaux part number

MartinP wrote on 10. Sep 2007 at 19:28:

Varche wrote on 10. Sep 2007 at 16:56: Those KYB gas adjust shockers seem a good price from Buypartsby. They don't seem to list anything for self levelling Omegas. Anyone got any cheap suggestions please? olive I think the self levelling shocks are Vaux specific, Mine came in Vaux boxes and the HD springs are a Vaux part number

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-SALOON-REAR-AIR-SHOCK-ABSORBER-KIT_W0QQitemZ330004898015QQihZ014QQcategoryZ10404QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

Any good for you?
Otherwise Vaux only parts for saloon part # 72119084 at £100 + Vat retail or £62.99 + VAT on TC card - cost is for individual shocker

Martin,

The kit Irmscher were selling on E-bay was the last of their stock seemingly and according to them there are no springs now available for the Omega.

The Eibachs I fitted have been okay in all circumstances so far 40mm front / 30mm rear, yours should only be 30 at each end due to the lighter engine, but with the van on the back with a full boot it needed the self levelling as it would have been just a bit too low at the back.

Definately better handling and a lot cheaper than Vauxhall springs.

Steve

stevief wrote on 11. Sep 2007 at 12:44:

Martin, The kit Irmscher were selling on E-bay was the last of their stock seemingly and according to them there are no springs now available for the Omega. The Eibachs I fitted have been okay in all circumstances so far 40mm front / 30mm rear, yours should only be 30 at each end due to the lighter engine, but with the van on the back with a full boot it needed the self levelling as it would have been just a bit too low at the back. Definately better handling and a lot cheaper than Vauxhall springs. Steve

The 2.2 is heaver than a V6 :o

If it is too low towing without self leveling they might be out, mine is saggy at the back I'll measure the height when I get home

Sorry about that, it is the Elite trim which is heavier obviously and the kerb weights are the same for the 2.2 oil burner and the V6s. The front drop was estimated by Eibach to be up to 30mm but they did state that it is dependant on the engine , trans etc fitted so more might be seen which in my case it did.

As for the ride height at the rear the estate is heavier at the back than the saloon so you may well be okay.

Aftermarket levelers are listed by Monroe and can be run either from an onboard compressor or a schraeder valve feeding both shocks.

The main reason for saying it would have been too low without the shocks assisting is that we have 5 speed bumps on the street which are narrow enough that when the rear wheels are on the road so are the caravan's meaning the jockey wheel is the lowest point.

New springs and pump up shock??

Worth considering!

bigall wrote on 11. Sep 2007 at 12:31:

MartinP wrote on 10. Sep 2007 at 19:28: Varche wrote on 10. Sep 2007 at 16:56: Those KYB gas adjust shockers seem a good price from Buypartsby. They don't seem to list anything for self levelling Omegas. Anyone got any cheap suggestions please? olive I think the self levelling shocks are Vaux specific, Mine came in Vaux boxes and the HD springs are a Vaux part number http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-SALOON-REAR-AIR-SHOCK-ABSORBER-KIT_W0QQitemZ330004898015QQihZ014QQcategoryZ10404QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem Any good for you? Otherwise Vaux only parts for saloon part # 72119084 at £100 + Vat retail or £62.99 + VAT on TC card - cost is for individual shocker

Thats for the prefacelift but is quite pricey