As from 1st Oct 2008, under a new legislation (Finance Act 2008) means that New Powers are in force which makes it an offence to use or keep an UN Taxed Vehicle on "Off Road" Area's and Land.

The change gives authorised persons the power of entry to carry out enforcement action, i.e., wheel clamping or removal.

There are only three exceptions to this new rule:

1. Where the vehicle is on private land which is associated with its dwelling and is SORN against that address.

2. Kept on the business premises of a motor trader.

3. Kept on the business premises of a vehicle tester.

So what does all this mean, well apart from the Government earning yet more money from us motorist, it means no more parking your untaxed vehicle at you local Pub, your friends private resident parking bay, the back of your Dads shop etc, even though its all private, off road and with or without thier permission.

You have been warned.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

So they're going to have to tax F1 cars?!?  :-?

What does this mean for my Scimitar? It's been in the garage since I bought it about 4 years ago, never received a Sorn reminder or anything. On the dvla website it comes up unlicensed, do I now have to apply for a Sorn at the post office?

More bullpoo from Stalin Brown

I suggest asking the next government what they are going to do

Phil B wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 18:06:

What does this mean for my Scimitar? It's been in the garage since I bought it about 4 years ago, never received a Sorn reminder or anything. On the dvla website it comes up unlicensed, do I now have to apply for a Sorn at the post office?

I think SORN only applies to vehicles since 1998, so you are hopefully OK. That is according to the leaflet on the DVLA website tonight, so they may change it tomorrow. :'( :'(  Who knows what that bunch of clowns will do next.

Ken

so will my car that im doing up in my garage be ok or will i end up getting a fine.What the hell is this country coming too

I'm not sure but it seems another revenue seeker to me. I thought keeping an older car on the road was good for the carbon footprint so should be encouraged not hindered.................................................................................................................Unless they want us all riding round in mind numbing hybrids........

  Prius forum anyone? ::)

Ken T wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 18:31:

Phil B wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 18:06: What does this mean for my Scimitar? It's been in the garage since I bought it about 4 years ago, never received a Sorn reminder or anything. On the dvla website it comes up unlicensed, do I now have to apply for a Sorn at the post office? I think SORN only applies to vehicles since 1998, so you are hopefully OK. That is according to the leaflet on the DVLA website tonight, so they may change it tomorrow. :'( :'(  Who knows what that bunch of clowns will do next. Ken

Spoke to DVLA couple of months back re my TR4A - never SORNed - was concerned may lose Reg Nº - was told no problem & it didn't need SORN.

They kept this rule change  bloody quite

dbug wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 19:17:

Ken T wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 18:31: Phil B wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 18:06: What does this mean for my Scimitar? It's been in the garage since I bought it about 4 years ago, never received a Sorn reminder or anything. On the dvla website it comes up unlicensed, do I now have to apply for a Sorn at the post office? I think SORN only applies to vehicles since 1998, so you are hopefully OK. That is according to the leaflet on the DVLA website tonight, so they may change it tomorrow. :'( :'(  Who knows what that bunch of clowns will do next. Ken Spoke to DVLA couple of months back re my TR4A - never SORNed - was concerned may lose Reg Nº - was told no problem & it didn't need SORN.

Cheers  :y

Ken T wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 18:31:

Phil B wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 18:06: What does this mean for my Scimitar? It's been in the garage since I bought it about 4 years ago, never received a Sorn reminder or anything. On the dvla website it comes up unlicensed, do I now have to apply for a Sorn at the post office? I think SORN only applies to vehicles since 1998, so you are hopefully OK. That is according to the leaflet on the DVLA website tonight, so they may change it tomorrow. :'( :'(  Who knows what that bunch of clowns will do next. Ken

Just double checked up, its if the vehicle hasn't been taxed since 1998 then no need to sorn. There are some horror stories about it, look at http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/general-consumer-issues/23843-road-tax-sorn-declaration.html An interesting post by someone called Marky-Mark, any one we know ?.

Cheers Ken

TONY H, its kept quiet for a reason, the less people know the more they catch, the more revenue raised & less in your pocket, thats this government all over, just look at them as modern day highway robbers. ;)

Tony H wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 19:19:

They kept this rule change  bloody quite

That's because nobody bl00dy understands it. The Finance Act 2008 amends the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 in Schedule 45. With the following:
Schedule 45 - clicky
:o :o :o :o

Bandit127 wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 19:49:

Tony H wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 19:19: They kept this rule change  bloody quite That's because nobody bl00dy understands it. The Finance Act 2008 amends the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 in Schedule 45. With the following: Schedule 45 - clicky :o :o :o :o

Too true. Mind you it talks about the vehicle being at a private residence, but doesn't seem to say it must be your residence. And the current SORN decleration asks for your address, but doesn't ask where the vehicle is being kept. Or maybe I have missed that bit in amongst the rest of the Gobbledigook. :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

Ken

Tony H wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 19:19:

They kept this rule change  bloody quite

Like most things with them, we find out the hard, you start quoting what you think is the current law, only to be told, No No under section blah blah we can do this, even if you still think your right you have to pay the price and apeal, agrue about it afterwards.

Why don't their resources go into getting untaxed vehicles off the road rather than creating hassle for owners whose cars aren't used on the road anyway, and therefore aren't causing anyone any harm? >:(

Kevin

Kevin Wood wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 21:29:

Why don't their resources go into getting untaxed vehicles off the road rather than creating hassle for owners whose cars aren't used on the road anyway, and therefore aren't causing anyone any harm? >:( Kevin

Remember this is 1984 2008 and that Nulab want to control your every thought, we are also all guilty of simething, and this just enables the authorities to prosecute us quicker for our crimes

So what happens to people who collect cars and may store them on a farm or even at one of the private 'secret' storage facilities, many such cars / busses / lorries etc, are not always kept taxed and or even tested. :)

Maybe they should deal with all the caravans parked on the road or other public parking areas on housing estates. :(

I know several people who have barns full of cars in various states of repair. Barns without addresses in most cases. How are they going to work that out?

In fact, how will they find all these cars that are off the road and thus none of their fecking business? Are our garages going to be inspected for harmless rustbuckets annually or something? >:(

Kevin

Unfortunately I keep getting the impression that government depts like this are more about raising funds than actually making the roads safer. The police try their best, but........ Without proper support and funding they are fighting a loosing battle. And the enthusiast restoring and old british bike is an easy target.  :'(

Ken

Ken T wrote on 30. Sep 2008 at 22:20:

Unfortunately I keep getting the impression that government depts like this are more about raising funds than actually making the roads safer. The police try their best, but........ Without proper support and funding they are fighting a loosing battle. And the enthusiast restoring and old british bike is an easy target.  :'( Ken

Not to mention creating work for themselves, of course.

Kevin

Hmmm.  So If I have a car SORN at my address, but I'm not allowed to work on cars at my address, then it has to just sit there as an eyesore until the end of time?  :-? >:(

Similiar problem, we do have two garages (two streets away) that we pay rent for thru the same people we pay rent for for the houses here, but I guess they'll be got at too, and we'll have to prove the garages are tied to the address. After paying the release fee's of course.  If u think about it, this change in law can, and I am sure will, be used to clamp any car with SORN and not parked directly outside the address the SORN applies to which means we are probably scuppered if we have an untaxed car.

I Know !. The answer, use the EU to stop this !. you know how GB Gov always gives into the EU rules, so, go over to France or Germany buy up a load of nearly scrap cars, and transfer the regs to our classic cars. That way the DVLA can't touch them !. :y :y :y

Ken

Interesting point, what about council lock up's :question