Business Secretary Lord Mandelson has told the BBC that there will be "painful change" resulting from the takeover of GM Europe.

This, he said, would be inevitable whichever of the three bidders for the European arm of General Motors, which owns Vauxhall, takes over.

"Whoever comes out as the successful bidder will cut costs and consolidate," he said.

He also said he was working hard to secure the future of Vauxhall's plants.

"We have to ensure that productive plants, where the greatest percentage of sales take place and which include UK Vauxhall plants, have a secure future," he said.

"That is what I working for."


In other words............

He has probably already arranged to flog the factories off cheap to his billionare Russian Pal for a nice little consultancy fee. ;)
He has all his finances put through a blind fund (or something like that)so that no-one can investigate,he has been cauaght a few times before.

that guy is such an idiot  >:(

God I hate that bloke!!!

we're all screwed,sooner we have an election the better

redelitev6 wrote on 21. May 2009 at 20:41:

we're all screwed,sooner we have an election the better

UK  Independance is the way i'm going or British National Party.

tunnie wrote on 21. May 2009 at 20:33:

that guy is such an idiot  >:(

Needs hitting

Look at the Conservative shadow member - only Ken Clarke :y

Martin Imber wrote on 21. May 2009 at 21:01:

tunnie wrote on 21. May 2009 at 20:33: that guy is such an idiot  >:( Needs hitting Look at the Conservative shadow member - only Ken Clarke :y

Needs shooting more like...

If the big 3 aren't careful the BNP will continue to get stronger!

tunnie wrote on 21. May 2009 at 21:03:

Martin Imber wrote on 21. May 2009 at 21:01: tunnie wrote on 21. May 2009 at 20:33: that guy is such an idiot  >:( Needs hitting Look at the Conservative shadow member - only Ken Clarke :y Needs shooting more like... If the big 3 aren't careful the BNP will continue to get stronger!

Well at the the euro elections I am doing a protest vote, and it will be for the BNP I am afraid. I would not do that in a general election, but feel I need to protest in some way that won't see me getting thwacked with a baton. (last bit a joke, I hold the Police in high esteem, and believe it is a tiny minority that spoils things)

Well it would make sense to just badge as OPEL  that would save millions on production costs

perhaps they should also bin the Insignia too

Can you imagine the cost involved in changing the name from Vauxhall to Opel. Just think of the cost involved in changing all of the underground maps just to start with !! :o :o

tunnie wrote on 21. May 2009 at 21:03:

Martin Imber wrote on 21. May 2009 at 21:01: tunnie wrote on 21. May 2009 at 20:33: that guy is such an idiot  >:( Needs hitting Look at the Conservative shadow member - only Ken Clarke :y Needs shooting more like... If the big 3 aren't careful the BNP will continue to get stronger!

Won't be long until Ken is in the job - unless they replace Osbourn with him

I doubt they will give him a really high profile role because despite his undoubted good points it would probably split the tory party in two because he is a lover of the EU and most of the Tory party arent. ;)

Pity though - he is in my top 10 list of good politicians. BTW my list is party blind - ie are/were they good.

Winston is top

A very good chancellor,he left this lot the strong economy which they sqaundered,maybe if they can do a few deals in smoke filled rooms about who is allowed to say what when etc; it could be a possibility to give him the job but it would be a big risk for Cameron and he doesnt strike me as a risk taker.
In an ideal scenario I would like to see David Davis as leader and Ken as chancellor :y

Albs wrote on 21. May 2009 at 22:03:

A very good chancellor,he left this lot the strong economy which they sqaundered,maybe if they can do a few deals in smoke filled rooms about who is allowed to say what when etc; it could be a possibility to give him the job but it would be a big risk for Cameron and he doesnt strike me as a risk taker. In an ideal scenario I would like to see David Davis as leader and Ken as chancellor :y

Good pairing

DD is a Libertarian as well, which we need.

Libertarians are for personal freedom, and one of the main tenets of Conservatives (but they did forget >:() was libertarianism

Del Boy wrote on 21. May 2009 at 20:43:

redelitev6 wrote on 21. May 2009 at 20:41: we're all screwed,sooner we have an election the better UK  Independance is the way i'm going or British National Party.

that used to be a dirty word in our house  but im thinking of going the same way.
I have always been a labour supporter but not any more  imho there all liars and cheats the only thing differing is how far to the left or right they are

Doug

Gareth Lewis wrote on 21. May 2009 at 21:37:

Can you imagine the cost involved in changing the name from Vauxhall to Opel. Just think of the cost involved in changing all of the underground maps just to start with !! :o :o

Nice one Gareth. Pity no one noticed ;D

STMO123 wrote on 22. May 2009 at 10:16:

Gareth Lewis wrote on 21. May 2009 at 21:37: Can you imagine the cost involved in changing the name from Vauxhall to Opel. Just think of the cost involved in changing all of the underground maps just to start with !! :o :o Nice one Gareth. Pity no one noticed ;D

I noticed ;D ;D

Personaly i'd like to see printed on ballot sheet
" None of The Above " but then its is no better than not voting really, but it would be nice to show how much comptept we really show for these bunch of cheating ,lying self serving pigs who we elect >:( >:( >:( >:(

Kieran wrote on 22. May 2009 at 13:54:

STMO123 wrote on 22. May 2009 at 10:16: Gareth Lewis wrote on 21. May 2009 at 21:37: Can you imagine the cost involved in changing the name from Vauxhall to Opel. Just think of the cost involved in changing all of the underground maps just to start with !! :o :o Nice one Gareth. Pity no one noticed ;D I noticed ;D ;D

Thank you both - I will now stop flagellating in the corner and come out as a worthy sole! :)

Gareth Lewis wrote on 22. May 2009 at 20:31:

Kieran wrote on 22. May 2009 at 13:54: STMO123 wrote on 22. May 2009 at 10:16: Gareth Lewis wrote on 21. May 2009 at 21:37: Can you imagine the cost involved in changing the name from Vauxhall to Opel. Just think of the cost involved in changing all of the underground maps just to start with !! :o :o Nice one Gareth. Pity no one noticed ;D I noticed ;D ;D Thank you both - I will now stop flagellating in the corner and come out as a worthy rsole! :)

I wouldn't say that mate. ::)

STMO123 wrote on 22. May 2009 at 20:34:

Gareth Lewis wrote on 22. May 2009 at 20:31: Kieran wrote on 22. May 2009 at 13:54: STMO123 wrote on 22. May 2009 at 10:16: Gareth Lewis wrote on 21. May 2009 at 21:37: Can you imagine the cost involved in changing the name from Vauxhall to Opel. Just think of the cost involved in changing all of the underground maps just to start with !! :o :o Nice one Gareth. Pity no one noticed ;D I noticed ;D ;D Thank you both - I will now stop flagellating in the corner and come out as a worthy rsole! :) I wouldn't say that mate. ::)

Oi - STMO123 - that was copyrighted that was. How dare you put an R in my sole! >:( >:(  ;D ;D ;D It hurt! ;)

OOps posted on the wrong forum entirely there!

BNP are gaining in numbers! i wont be voting for them they may say 1 thing but at the end of the day theyre just a bunch of crazy racists

Del Boy wrote on 21. May 2009 at 20:43:

redelitev6 wrote on 21. May 2009 at 20:41: we're all screwed,sooner we have an election the better UK  Independance is the way i'm going or British National Party.

Me too :y