Cem's has been sorted, but now i see Mike Dundee's is as bad. Is it my end that's at fault, because Mike's used to be ok :-/ I use IE8

Pete. wrote on 28. May 2009 at 21:06:

Cem's has been sorted, but now i see Mike Dundee's is as bad. Is it my end that's at fault, because Mike's used to be ok :-/ I use IE8

No Pete, I have FF and Mike's is covering the text for me as well ;) ;)

There are quite a few that are slightly oversize and block text in FF ...  .. I've given up asking folks to change them after adverse comment from those who seem to think we should all use but one browser - and it wasn't a mod/admin making the comment .. :(

Entwood wrote on 28. May 2009 at 22:01:

There are quite a few that are slightly oversize and block text in FF ...  .. I've given up asking folks to change them after adverse comment from those who seem to think we should all use but one browser - and it wasn't a mod/admin making the comment .. :(

Its not a browser issue but essentially a manners and consideration for Admin and other users issue.

The Admin have a nightmare regulating a site like this and we should all do whatever we can to make their lives easier as we are the ones who get the real benefits. The rules are there - we need to stick with them as they are there for a reason.

Sorry - on my soapbox a bit I'm afraid! :o :o

Gareth Lewis wrote on 28. May 2009 at 23:14:

Entwood wrote on 28. May 2009 at 22:01: There are quite a few that are slightly oversize and block text in FF ...  .. I've given up asking folks to change them after adverse comment from those who seem to think we should all use but one browser - and it wasn't a mod/admin making the comment .. :( Its not a browser issue but essentially a manners and consideration for Admin and other users issue. The Admin have a nightmare regulating a site like this and we should all do whatever we can to make their lives easier as we are the ones who get the real benefits. The rules are there - we need to stick with them as they are there for a reason. Sorry - on my soapbox a bit I'm afraid! :o :o

100% agreement with you there ... but unfortunately others don't see it that way, the the Admin staff donj't want to appear bolshy by picking up every transgression .. a point of view I also understand and agree with.

The easiest and best way would be for everyone to READ and OBEY the published rules .. 110 * 110 pixels ..... that way everyone would be happy .. :)

If an avatar is covering part of the text in IE8 then add this site to the compatability list (looks like a broken sheet of paper next the the refresh button), that will shrink the avatar enough to show the text :y

Entwood wrote on 29. May 2009 at 00:08:

Gareth Lewis wrote on 28. May 2009 at 23:14: Entwood wrote on 28. May 2009 at 22:01: There are quite a few that are slightly oversize and block text in FF ...  .. I've given up asking folks to change them after adverse comment from those who seem to think we should all use but one browser - and it wasn't a mod/admin making the comment .. :( Its not a browser issue but essentially a manners and consideration for Admin and other users issue. The Admin have a nightmare regulating a site like this and we should all do whatever we can to make their lives easier as we are the ones who get the real benefits. The rules are there - we need to stick with them as they are there for a reason. Sorry - on my soapbox a bit I'm afraid! :o :o 100% agreement with you there ... but unfortunately others don't see it that way, the the Admin staff donj't want to appear bolshy by picking up every transgression .. a point of view I also understand and agree with. The easiest and best way would be for everyone to READ and OBEY the published rules .. 110 * 110 pixels ..... that way everyone would be happy .. :)

Part of the problem is that as IE7 is still the most popular browser by a considerable margin, many do not know they are causing an issue, as it looks OK to them.

As an predominantly IE user myself, I don't often notice if an avatar is too wide, so obviously don't pick up on it.  I didn't even notice my old avatar of my MV6 was 10px too wide until somebody (who shall remain nameless ;)) picked me up on it after I asked them to reduce theirs  :-[

Why don't you just set the user CP up so that anybody who chooses an avatar outside of a pre-defined dimension can't upload or link to it?

wrote on 29. May 2009 at 17:52:

Why don't you just set the user CP up so that anybody who chooses an avatar outside of a pre-defined dimension can't upload or link to it?

Technical reasons why we can't do that

TheBoy wrote on 29. May 2009 at 18:03:

wrote on 29. May 2009 at 17:52: Why don't you just set the user CP up so that anybody who chooses an avatar outside of a pre-defined dimension can't upload or link to it? Technical reasons why we can't do that

Do you mean the forum software is $hite to the point where that option is not available in WYSIWYG, or that the forum software is too complex for the Admin to rewrite to invoke that feature that is standard to phpBB?

Gareth Lewis wrote on 28. May 2009 at 23:14:

Entwood wrote on 28. May 2009 at 22:01: There are quite a few that are slightly oversize and block text in FF ...  .. I've given up asking folks to change them after adverse comment from those who seem to think we should all use but one browser - and it wasn't a mod/admin making the comment .. :( Its not a browser issue but essentially a manners and consideration for Admin and other users issue. The Admin have a nightmare regulating a site like this and we should all do whatever we can to make their lives easier as we are the ones who get the real benefits. The rules are there - we need to stick with them as they are there for a reason. Sorry - on my soapbox a bit I'm afraid! :o :o

Never be afraid Gareth - remember the force is with you :y :y

wrote on 29. May 2009 at 18:07:

TheBoy wrote on 29. May 2009 at 18:03: wrote on 29. May 2009 at 17:52: Why don't you just set the user CP up so that anybody who chooses an avatar outside of a pre-defined dimension can't upload or link to it? Technical reasons why we can't do that Do you mean the forum software is $hite to the point where that option is not available in WYSIWYG, or that the forum software is too complex for the Admin to rewrite to invoke that feature that is standard to phpBB?

I strongly suspect that this is the case but you seem to be missing the point somewhat.

Everyone can see the size of their avatar when it is loaded. Just put the cursor over it and right click then properties (for the majority of browsers anyway) and it will show the pixel size.

Surely it is the responsibility of the forum member to ensure they abide by the rules of the forum not admins job to put something in place if the forum member hasn't done something they should have done in the first place. :y :y

Admin had to point out to me that mine was oversized when I first joined - I'm sure that they got no pleasure having to send these pm's - it must be a pain to them. :(

By the way KW, yours is 128px × 96px  :D :D ;D ;D ;) ;)

Gareth Lewis wrote on 29. May 2009 at 18:39:

Everyone can see the size of their avatar when it is loaded. Just put the cursor over it and right click then properties (for the majority of browsers anyway) and it will show the pixel size.

Unfortunately Gareth, there are an incredible number of folk out there who are not so computer literate.
While it is easy for you & me to work out what size an image is, not everybody knows.


Gareth Lewis wrote on 29. May 2009 at 18:39:

By the way KW, yours is 128px × 96px  :D :D ;D ;D ;) ;)

Yes I know, and until this thread I never even thought about it because I made the basic mistake of applying common sense (and assuming this forum would be the same as just about every other forum with regard to avatar size).

PS

As it's not actually distorting the forum layout, I don't see what the problem is.....although if there is a problem then I expect I'll have a new message shortly enough.

wrote on 29. May 2009 at 18:07:

TheBoy wrote on 29. May 2009 at 18:03: wrote on 29. May 2009 at 17:52: Why don't you just set the user CP up so that anybody who chooses an avatar outside of a pre-defined dimension can't upload or link to it? Technical reasons why we can't do that Do you mean the forum software is $hite to the point where that option is not available in WYSIWYG, or that the forum software is too complex for the Admin to rewrite to invoke that feature that is standard to phpBB?

Wrong on both counts. The function is already there, but besides, its easy enough to rewrite.

Accept there are technical reasons, whilst we could enable it, we shouldn't.

The option used to be turned on, but caused a problem iirc....

whats the chance that problem has been resolved now we are a few software releases away from that time?

Jimbob wrote on 29. May 2009 at 20:36:

The option used to be turned on, but caused a problem iirc.... whats the chance that problem has been resolved now we are a few software releases away from that time?

The software, if enabled, will do what its supposed to.

There are other technical problems with doing so though...

TheBoy wrote on 29. May 2009 at 07:51:

Entwood wrote on 29. May 2009 at 00:08: Gareth Lewis wrote on 28. May 2009 at 23:14: [quote author=3F342E2D35353E5A0 link=1243541209/2#2 date=1243544506]There are quite a few that are slightly oversize and block text in FF ...  .. I've given up asking folks to change them after adverse comment from those who seem to think we should all use but one browser - and it wasn't a mod/admin making the comment .. :( Its not a browser issue but essentially a manners and consideration for Admin and other users issue. The Admin have a nightmare regulating a site like this and we should all do whatever we can to make their lives easier as we are the ones who get the real benefits. The rules are there - we need to stick with them as they are there for a reason. Sorry - on my soapbox a bit I'm afraid! :o :o 100% agreement with you there ... but unfortunately others don't see it that way, the the Admin staff donj't want to appear bolshy by picking up every transgression .. a point of view I also understand and agree with. The easiest and best way would be for everyone to READ and OBEY the published rules .. 110 * 110 pixels ..... that way everyone would be happy .. :)

Part of the problem is that as IE7 is still the most popular browser by a considerable margin, many do not know they are causing an issue, as it looks OK to them.

As an predominantly IE user myself, I don't often notice if an avatar is too wide, so obviously don't pick up on it.  I didn't even notice my old avatar of my MV6 was 10px too wide until somebody (who shall remain nameless ;)) picked me up on it after I asked them to reduce theirs  :-[/quote]

Wonder who that might have been. ::)

Welung666 wrote on 29. May 2009 at 05:35:

If an avatar is covering part of the text in IE8 then add this site to the compatability list (looks like a broken sheet of paper next the the refresh button), that will shrink the avatar enough to show the text :y

Well, ya live 'n' learn  :y

I have now reduced the size of my avatars, so hopefully won't cause any folks out there anymore problems ::)