The company i work for, was bought out by an American firm just over a year ago, since then we have been building a new 'global' platform for our mobile services across the world (instead of having 3 separate platforms)

The writing was on the wall, now we have completed a major chunk of it, the Americans have cut resources in EMEA technology by 50% some very knowledgeable Java & PHP people have been cut.

The have done this despite not having 1 country working on the new platform, and the Americans simply do not understand the european markets. The project is also months behind schedule.

I am safe for now, but i fear London will become a commercial only operation inside 12 months.

I was on LinkedIn today, i saw an interesting job, and decided to apply tongue & cheek. Sent the CV off, within 1 hour got a reply asking me to come in for an interview. Pays 7k more than my current position.

However, i think i will stay where i am for now, i still like working there, great people and i know the current systems inside out, which will become even more valuable as resources go, the chap above me is also going traveling soon.

Still going for the interview though, be interested to see if i could get it.  :)

If it's a secure(ish) position, with a 7K pay rise, then kiss your loyalty and your friends goodbye.

STMO123 wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 21:22:

If it's a secure(ish) position, with a 7K pay rise, then kiss your loyalty and your friends goodbye.

its a smaller company, start up 2 years old.

I am going to hang on to see what happens, i still really like working where i am  :y

Tunnie , nowadays the word "safe" can change position very quickly.. I wish you luck :y

cem wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 21:48:

Tunnie , nowadays the word "safe" can change position very quickly.. I wish you luck :y

Indeed, i only applied to see what was out there.

Its been a while since i had an interview, be good to go for the practice.

Sounds good

:y

tunnie wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 21:50:

cem wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 21:48: Tunnie , nowadays the word "safe" can change position very quickly.. I wish you luck :y Indeed, i only applied to see what was out there. Its been a while since i had an interview, be good to go for the practice.

And a recommendation : try and do different projects and jobs as much as possible while you dont have criticial  financial responsibilities..Still too early for you to glue on a fix job.. :y

Quote:

nowadays the word "safe" can change position very quickly

Especially with the Yanks at the helm. :-X


cem wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 21:58:

And a recommendation : try and do different projects and jobs as much as possible while you dont have criticial  financial responsibilities..Still too early for you to glue on a fix job.. :y

Very true, probably time to move on in some respects, and 7K isn't to be sniffed at. However, you'd then become "last in" in rather uncertain times. :-/

Kevin

tunnie wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 20:48:

I was on LinkedIn today, i saw an interesting job, and decided to apply tongue & cheek. Sent the CV off, within 1 hour got a reply asking me to come in for an interview. Pays 7k more than my current position.

I joined Linkedin only a few days ago and already I have received 2 enquiries for work. What do you think of it? :question

Kevin Wood wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 22:03:

Quote: nowadays the word "safe" can change position very quickly Especially with the Yanks at the helm. :-X cem wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 21:58: And a recommendation : try and do different projects and jobs as much as possible while you dont have criticial  financial responsibilities..Still too early for you to glue on a fix job.. :y Very true, probably time to move on in some respects, and 7K isn't to be sniffed at. However, you'd then become "last in" in rather uncertain times. :-/ Kevin

True..

And another fact firms mostly prefer the highest salary old workers "first" in the redundant list (mostly) :-/

(at least here)

Gareth Lewis wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 22:07:

tunnie wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 20:48: I was on LinkedIn today, i saw an interesting job, and decided to apply tongue & cheek. Sent the CV off, within 1 hour got a reply asking me to come in for an interview. Pays 7k more than my current position. I joined Linkedin only a few days ago and already I have received 2 enquiries for work. What do you think of it? :question

Its very good, had some old company directors recommend me on it :y

Kevin Wood wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 22:03:

Quote: nowadays the word "safe" can change position very quickly Especially with the Yanks at the helm. :-X

tell me about it :(

Kevin Wood wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 22:03:

Quote: nowadays the word "safe" can change position very quickly Especially with the Yanks at the helm. :-X cem wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 21:58: And a recommendation : try and do different projects and jobs as much as possible while you dont have criticial  financial responsibilities..Still too early for you to glue on a fix job.. :y Very true, probably time to move on in some respects, and 7K isn't to be sniffed at. However, you'd then become "last in" in rather uncertain times. :-/ Kevin

Valid point Kevin and worth thinking about tunnie :y

wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 23:24:

Kevin Wood wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 22:03: Quote: nowadays the word "safe" can change position very quickly Especially with the Yanks at the helm. :-X cem wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 21:58: And a recommendation : try and do different projects and jobs as much as possible while you dont have criticial  financial responsibilities..Still too early for you to glue on a fix job.. :y Very true, probably time to move on in some respects, and 7K isn't to be sniffed at. However, you'd then become "last in" in rather uncertain times. :-/ Kevin Valid point Kevin and worth thinking about tunnie :y

True, i have been at my current place for a while, that said, 2 of the java developers that were cut, are 2 of the longest serving employee's

So it does not really mean anything these days, the trouble is as soon as this platform is built, all control and upgrades for it, will be handled by the states, which means i will be out of a job.

tunnie wrote on 06. Jun 2009 at 17:50:

wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 23:24: Kevin Wood wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 22:03: Quote: nowadays the word "safe" can change position very quickly Especially with the Yanks at the helm. :-X cem wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 21:58: And a recommendation : try and do different projects and jobs as much as possible while you dont have criticial  financial responsibilities..Still too early for you to glue on a fix job.. :y Very true, probably time to move on in some respects, and 7K isn't to be sniffed at. However, you'd then become "last in" in rather uncertain times. :-/ Kevin Valid point Kevin and worth thinking about tunnie :y True, i have been at my current place for a while, that said, 2 of the java developers that were cut, are 2 of the longest serving employee's So it does not really mean anything these days, the trouble is as soon as this platform is built, all control and upgrades for it, will be handled by the states, which means i will be out of a job.

I don't envy you tunnie, with conditions as they are it's hard to call on the job security front.

I suppose it does pay to 'keep the hand in' whenever attractive opportunities pop up but as always, it's a gamble.

I think it's down to personal circumstances, age, location, family considerations and so on. You're not the first to face the age old conundrum - job security against missed opportunity and subsequent regret.

If personal circumstances are favourable and you can roll with the punches, it might be something to go for, should you not, there's always the possibility, when down the line a bit you'll be thinking, 'wish I'd gone for it'.

Good luck whatever you do :y

wrote on 06. Jun 2009 at 18:28:

tunnie wrote on 06. Jun 2009 at 17:50: wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 23:24: Kevin Wood wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 22:03: Quote: nowadays the word "safe" can change position very quickly Especially with the Yanks at the helm. :-X cem wrote on 05. Jun 2009 at 21:58: And a recommendation : try and do different projects and jobs as much as possible while you dont have criticial  financial responsibilities..Still too early for you to glue on a fix job.. :y Very true, probably time to move on in some respects, and 7K isn't to be sniffed at. However, you'd then become "last in" in rather uncertain times. :-/ Kevin Valid point Kevin and worth thinking about tunnie :y True, i have been at my current place for a while, that said, 2 of the java developers that were cut, are 2 of the longest serving employee's So it does not really mean anything these days, the trouble is as soon as this platform is built, all control and upgrades for it, will be handled by the states, which means i will be out of a job. I don't envy you tunnie, with conditions as they are it's hard to call on the job security front. I suppose it does pay to 'keep the hand in' whenever attractive opportunities pop up but as always, it's a gamble. I think it's down to personal circumstances, age, location, family considerations and so on. You're not the first to face the age old conundrum - job security against missed opportunity and subsequent regret. If personal circumstances are favourable and you can roll with the punches, it might be something to go for, should you not, there's always the possibility, when down the line a bit you'll be thinking, 'wish I'd gone for it'. Good luck whatever you do :y

Cheers

Yeh that is the trouble, but that said i don't have any commitments, i still live at home. Saving up for a place of my own.... so on that basis with more money, its a good move. Think my commute costs would be higher though as i would have to drive  :-/

i would be doing 3k miles a month, so it could prove more expensive in the long run as i would prob need new car after a year or so.  :-/