Good Evening guys,can anyone tell me what is TIF.My wife is having her wage slips sent to our PC,i usually have no pr-obs downloading them.But now it wont let me,they usually come in pdf format but now it says unknown file.Am i doing something wrong I'm us with computers any help gratefully apreciated    DEAN :-[

http://www.scantips.com/basics09.html

google some free tif viewer download :y

Thanks cem will do,BTW is it how the sender is sending it or is it my PC.I haven't changed the settings at all :-/ :y

Sounds like they are just sending in a different file format....so nothing to do with your pc.

You could try this

http://www.tiffviewer.com/open-tif-file.htm

Never tried it, but says its free  :y

Cheers td just looked at your link, think you do have to pay :y

I would also challenge your emplyer as to why the change.

Are they just sending these as an attached file?

Allthough things are reasonably secure when posting they are deffineately not 100% secure and anything that contains data such as Nationalal Insurance numbers and other personal details should be sent encrypted (oassword protected) for your safety againt dats theft and covering you agaist it.

A .PDF can be passworded allthough I doubt your company was doing this either.  Maybe a ,TIF can be made secure but I am not sure about this, but if attached as a .ZIP/RAR file then thay can be passworded.

Sorry to draw attention to it, but things like this concern me especially after some of the things I have learnt/seen over the years.

http://www.irfanview.com/

free program that will open any graphics file  :y

Mr Skrunts wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 19:48:

I would also challenge your emplyer as to why the change. Are they just sending these as an attached file? Allthough things are reasonably secure when posting they are deffineately not 100% secure and anything that contains data such as Nationalal Insurance numbers and other personal details should be sent encrypted (oassword protected) for your safety againt dats theft and covering you agaist it. A .PDF can be passworded allthough I doubt your company was doing this either.  Maybe a ,TIF can be made secure but I am not sure about this, but if attached as a .ZIP/RAR file then thay can be passworded. Sorry to draw attention to it, but things like this concern me especially after some of the things I have learnt/seen over the years.

My wife's payslip comes through the post. Enough on there to steal her identity I should think. But she only works for a massive metropolitan authority, so they wouldn't know, would they? >:(

Mr Skrunts wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 19:48:

I would also challenge your emplyer as to why the change. Are they just sending these as an attached file? Allthough things are reasonably secure when posting they are deffineately not 100% secure and anything that contains data such as Nationalal Insurance numbers and other personal details should be sent encrypted (oassword protected) for your safety againt dats theft and covering you agaist it. A .PDF can be passworded allthough I doubt your company was doing this either.  Maybe a ,TIF can be made secure but I am not sure about this, but if attached as a .ZIP/RAR file then thay can be passworded. Sorry to draw attention to it, but things like this concern me especially after some of the things I have learnt/seen over the years.

Mr s yes they were sending them as an attached file pdf,do you think my wife should ask them to stop.And find an alternative as you say personal information contained

Jimbob wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 19:51:

http://www.irfanview.com/ free program that will open any graphics file  :y

I will second the recommendation of this programme, it is excellant. :y :y

Mr Skrunts wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 19:48:

I would also challenge your emplyer as to why the change.

Simple...compressed TIFF takes up much less disk space, hence saves on bandwidth when it is mailed (bandwidth is money).


Mr Skrunts wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 19:48:

A .PDF can be passworded allthough I doubt your company was doing this either.  Maybe a ,TIF can be made secure but I am not sure about this, but if attached as a .ZIP/RAR file then thay can be passworded.

While you are 100% correct in that e-mail is not a secure medium, don't be lulled in to a false sense of security by thinking that password protecting/encrypting a file stops it being accessed by others who are unauthorised, because it doesn't.

wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 20:37:

Mr Skrunts wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 19:48: I would also challenge your emplyer as to why the change. Simple...compressed TIFF takes up much less disk space, hence saves on bandwidth when it is mailed (bandwidth is money). Mr Skrunts wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 19:48: A .PDF can be passworded allthough I doubt your company was doing this either.  Maybe a ,TIF can be made secure but I am not sure about this, but if attached as a .ZIP/RAR file then thay can be passworded. While you are 100% correct in that e-mail is not a secure medium, don't be lulled in to a false sense of security by thinking that password protecting/encrypting a file stops it being accessed by others who are unauthorised, because it doesn't.

Depends on the encryption used. There are many, many popular encryption systems that are not feasible to break. Brute force is rarely successful, assuming no deictionary words.

TheBoy wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 20:58:

Depends on the encryption used. There are many, many popular encryption systems that are not feasible to break. Brute force is rarely successful, assuming no deictionary words.

I agree 100%, but the fact it can be broken if you can be bothered to wait 1 week/ 1 month/ 1 year means it isn't secure in the first place.

I know full well it can take computers like Deep Blue over 100 years to crack certain encryption algorithms, the point I was trying to convey is that a simple password protection on files such as *.pdf's, *.rar's, etc isn't worth 2 bob as a semi trained lab rat can break them with a £299 computer from PC World in a very reasonable time frame.

yep.. every code can be broken..

but no need for extremes especially in that case.. :-/

moggy wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 20:17:

Mr Skrunts wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 19:48: I would also challenge your emplyer as to why the change. Are they just sending these as an attached file? Allthough things are reasonably secure when posting they are deffineately not 100% secure and anything that contains data such as Nationalal Insurance numbers and other personal details should be sent encrypted (oassword protected) for your safety againt dats theft and covering you agaist it. A .PDF can be passworded allthough I doubt your company was doing this either.  Maybe a ,TIF can be made secure but I am not sure about this, but if attached as a .ZIP/RAR file then thay can be passworded. Sorry to draw attention to it, but things like this concern me especially after some of the things I have learnt/seen over the years. Mr s yes they were sending them as an attached file pdf,do you think my wife should ask them to stop.And find an alternative as you say personal information contained

Personal choice at the end of the day, at the end of the day I was voiceing my thoughts on how I personally feel.

wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 21:11:

TheBoy wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 20:58: Depends on the encryption used. There are many, many popular encryption systems that are not feasible to break. Brute force is rarely successful, assuming no deictionary words. I agree 100%, but the fact it can be broken if you can be bothered to wait 1 week/ 1 month/ 1 year means it isn't secure in the first place. I know full well it can take computers like Deep Blue over 100 years to crack certain encryption algorithms, the point I was trying to convey is that a simple password protection on files such as *.pdf's, *.rar's, etc isn't worth 2 bob as a semi trained lab rat can break them with a £299 computer from PC World in a very reasonable time frame.

Many application passwords are a bit lame.  ZIP's ones are pretty good, as by the time its brute forced, chances are the info in it is redundant.

Ultimately, any encrypted document that is distributed in any form - electronic or paper - can be decrypted given enough time.

wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 20:37:

Mr Skrunts wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 19:48: I would also challenge your emplyer as to why the change. Simple...compressed TIFF takes up much less disk space, hence saves on bandwidth when it is mailed (bandwidth is money). Mr Skrunts wrote on 12. Nov 2009 at 19:48: A .PDF can be passworded allthough I doubt your company was doing this either.  Maybe a ,TIF can be made secure but I am not sure about this, but if attached as a .ZIP/RAR file then thay can be passworded. While you are 100% correct in that e-mail is not a secure medium, don't be lulled in to a false sense of security by thinking that password protecting/encrypting a file stops it being accessed by others who are unauthorised, because it doesn't.

Am certainly not that naive.

It's just a bit of added protection that stops the basic nosey git having a nosey.  If some one is intend at looking there will be a way in.