As is often pointed out i am an ex-student, but looking at the course i did 2 years ago, the fees have trippled  :o

http://www.brunel.ac.uk/courses/ug/cdata/m/MultimediaTechnologyandDesignBSc#facts

To do my course now will cost around £11,000. Thats just to attend the course, no house/flat rental, food, supplies, nothing else, JUST to attend the course.  >:(

You even have to pay fees for thick sandwich years when you are away on placement, and never step foot on campus, which i was very angry about at the time.

But we all have to pay for our sandwiches regardless of whether they're thin or thick! ;D ;D

tunnie wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 16:18:

As is often pointed out i am an ex-student, but looking at the course i did 2 years ago, the fees have trippled  :o http://www.brunel.ac.uk/courses/ug/cdata/m/MultimediaTechnologyandDesignBSc#facts To do my course now will cost around £11,000. Thats just to attend the course, no house/flat rental, food, supplies, nothing else, JUST to attend the course.  >:( You even have to pay fees for thick sandwich years when you are away on placement, and never step foot on campus, which i was very angry about at the time.

In Victorian times .........most poor people started work at about eight.......later in the Victorian period......about twelve years became the norm.
By the 1920's .....most kids started work at fourteen....I started full time work at sixteen......the average student seems to get his first job.......... at about age twenty -five.......
My question is this.......are students a bunch of lazy work shy buggers?....THE ANSWER  IS......... ;) ;) ;) ;) :y

tunnie wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 16:18:

As is often pointed out i am a useless student

Can't argue with that :P

TheBoy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 17:54:

tunnie wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 16:18: As is often pointed out i am a useless student Can't argue with that :P

but can he make sandwiches? ::)

Pitchfork wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 18:11:

TheBoy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 17:54: tunnie wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 16:18: As is often pointed out i am a useless student Can't argue with that :P but can he make sandwiches? ::)

Errr, never seen him try, but his mum does bloody good bacon sarnies :y

a lot of sites ive been on when shopfitting if a labourer cant make tea he wont be back the next day.

Opti wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 17:34:

tunnie wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 16:18: As is often pointed out i am an ex-student, but looking at the course i did 2 years ago, the fees have trippled  :o http://www.brunel.ac.uk/courses/ug/cdata/m/MultimediaTechnologyandDesignBSc#facts To do my course now will cost around £11,000. Thats just to attend the course, no house/flat rental, food, supplies, nothing else, JUST to attend the course.  >:( You even have to pay fees for thick sandwich years when you are away on placement, and never step foot on campus, which i was very angry about at the time. In Victorian times .........most poor people started work at about eight.......later in the Victorian period......about twelve years became the norm. By the 1920's .....most kids started work at fourteen....I started full time work at sixteen......the average student seems to get his first job.......... at about age twenty -five....... My question is this.......are students a bunch of lazy work shy buggers?....THE ANSWER  IS......... ;) ;) ;) ;) :y

16? what took you so long? I got my first job at 15, i worked in Tesco's, Currys, local marketing companies, local corner shops, so you can't really put that one on me.

I saved enough to pay for a good chunk of early uni stuff......

I'd like to see a return to less people at university and grants.

My daughter will definately go, and supporting her will be a nightmare.

Martin Imber wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:49:

I'd like to see a return to less people at university and grants. My daughter will definately go, and supporting her will be a nightmare.

There are enough grants to do it without, its all based on family income. If your below a certain threshold, you get loans for the fee's.

With London bonus, my standard loan was £5.5k per year, (although i only actually took it out for 2 years) As long as you don't spend your time down the pub its plenty, i used it to buy my Omega (best thing i ever bought) and do countless trips to the states.

First thing they need to do is get rid of the shite courses which are not worth the paper they are written one.

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:55:

First thing they need to do is get rid of the shite courses which are not worth the paper they are written one.

My pet hate was 'American Studies' that joke for a course lasted 3 years  :o

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:55:

First thing they need to do is get rid of the shite courses which are not worth the paper they are written one.

My daughter has no real idea yet but an engineering, physics and maths are current contenders.

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:55:

First thing they need to do is get rid of the shite courses which are not worth the paper they are written one.

Media studies,always many times oversubscribed,people who want to write a thesis on Simon Cowell or Westlife and would call themselves intellectuals if they knew how to spell it. :y ::)

Martin Imber wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:58:

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:55: First thing they need to do is get rid of the shite courses which are not worth the paper they are written one. My daughter has no real idea yet but an engineering, physics and maths are current contenders.

Engineering in the Uk is dying....its to easy to do abroad for less money and even china and india are now getting good.

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 22:04:

Martin Imber wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:58: Marks DTM Calib wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:55: First thing they need to do is get rid of the shite courses which are not worth the paper they are written one. My daughter has no real idea yet but an engineering, physics and maths are current contenders. Engineering in the Uk is dying....its to easy to do abroad for less money and even china and india are now getting good.

But it is wealth creation.

One of her relatives (Sues cousins daughter so I don't think I am unless you add in-law) does engineering and has got her interested.

Anyway I don't think she would be any good at media studies

It WAS wealth creation.....more and more of it is moving abroad and as they are educated here.....its all to easy to off shore serious developments

tunnie wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:47:

I got my first job at 15, i worked in Tesco's

I was probably served by you. Do you remember a fat, angry customer who didn't want to be shopping ;D

TheBoy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 22:23:

tunnie wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:47: I got my first job at 15, i worked in Tesco's I was probably served by you. Do you remember a fat, angry customer who didn't want to be shopping ;D

They all blended into one  :D

Was at Tesco Brackley shortly before popping to uni. I worked in the bread section. I miss the reduce gun i had, i would set everything i wanted to 5p.  ;D

Noticed its all upgraded now, and you have to log all reduced items, think they must have got wise to my earlier antics  ;D

tunnie wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 22:50:

TheBoy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 22:23: tunnie wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:47: I got my first job at 15, i worked in Tesco's I was probably served by you. Do you remember a fat, angry customer who didn't want to be shopping ;D They all blended into one  :D Was at Tesco Brackley shortly before popping to uni. I worked in the bread section. I miss the reduce gun i had, i would set everything i wanted to 5p.  ;D Noticed its all upgraded now, and you have to log all reduced items, think they must have got wise to my earlier antics  ;D

So you worked in the Bread dsection but still cannot make sandwiches, so much for work experience! ;D

Pitchfork wrote on 17. Dec 2009 at 09:31:

tunnie wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 22:50: TheBoy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 22:23: tunnie wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:47: I got my first job at 15, i worked in Tesco's I was probably served by you. Do you remember a fat, angry customer who didn't want to be shopping ;D They all blended into one  :D Was at Tesco Brackley shortly before popping to uni. I worked in the bread section. I miss the reduce gun i had, i would set everything i wanted to 5p.  ;D Noticed its all upgraded now, and you have to log all reduced items, think they must have got wise to my earlier antics  ;D So you worked in the Bread dsection but still cannot make sandwiches, so much for work experience! ;D

All pre made, things that needed to be hot went in the walk in oven!

Mostly was all the pre-sealed stuff i worked on.

I can actually make sarnies, i use those Toastie bags here at work to make up one and toast it. they work quite well!

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 22:15:

It WAS wealth creation.....more and more of it is moving abroad and as they are educated here.....its all to easy to off shore serious developments

Yes the organisation in this country doesn't really have a clue.  A recent BBC news item about how far ahead britain is in wave technology showed a couple of ideas currently being worked on, as if they were new stuff. However Salter's Duck was invented way back in 1974, but the powers in the nuclear and coal fired industries killed it off, cause it could have been fairly cheap to produce compared to their prices. Britain is too choked up with layers of civil servants who do a fine job of making industry uneconomic hence it moves overseas.

Ken