That Vauxhall putting the 3.0 diesel engine in the omega would've been a good move? I was thinking earlier whilst reading on the Saab forums, the 3.0 is a Vx engine according to the guys on there (pretty sure it is too), why didn't they put this in would've made a lot of sense don't you think.

If they had of put the V8 6.0 from monaro in it that would have made sense!

Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:50:

That Vauxhall putting the 3.0 diesel engine in the omega would've been a good move? I was thinking earlier whilst reading on the Saab forums, the 3.0 is a Vx engine according to the guys on there (pretty sure it is too), why didn't they put this in would've made a lot of sense don't you think.

Its an Isuzu lump......

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:54:

Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:50: That Vauxhall putting the 3.0 diesel engine in the omega would've been a good move? I was thinking earlier whilst reading on the Saab forums, the 3.0 is a Vx engine according to the guys on there (pretty sure it is too), why didn't they put this in would've made a lot of sense don't you think. Its an Isuzu lump......

Yeah, but Vx are big Isuzu users so I just say Vx ;D
It's got good power, sort of reliable and I think would've made perfect sense for a big exec car like the Mig. Robsey thats a better idea mate  :y

I'm not sure how reliable it is, I really don't know much about the engine. However, The Metropolitan Police service operate as part of thier fleet 3.0 V6 CDTI Vectra's. And the amount that came through auction one time as non runners with engine issues was unbelievable. Of course you can get that with all cars, but it was obvious there was something wrong. There were 4 a month for 3 months or so all coming through as non runners. And there is no other vehicle I've seen with that frequency come through as non runners.

Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:57:

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:54: Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:50: That Vauxhall putting the 3.0 diesel engine in the omega would've been a good move? I was thinking earlier whilst reading on the Saab forums, the 3.0 is a Vx engine according to the guys on there (pretty sure it is too), why didn't they put this in would've made a lot of sense don't you think. Its an Isuzu lump...... Yeah, but Vx are big Isuzu users so I just say Vx ;D It's got good power, sort of reliable and I think would've made perfect sense for a big exec car like the Mig. Robsey thats a better idea mate  :y

Thanks, What's LSG 1 stand for? as you get LS1 LS2 and LS3 from monaro engines is it linked at all with that?

RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 20:06:

Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:57: Marks DTM Calib wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:54: Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:50: That Vauxhall putting the 3.0 diesel engine in the omega would've been a good move? I was thinking earlier whilst reading on the Saab forums, the 3.0 is a Vx engine according to the guys on there (pretty sure it is too), why didn't they put this in would've made a lot of sense don't you think. Its an Isuzu lump...... Yeah, but Vx are big Isuzu users so I just say Vx ;D It's got good power, sort of reliable and I think would've made perfect sense for a big exec car like the Mig. Robsey thats a better idea mate  :y Thanks, What's LSG 1 stand for? as you get LS1 LS2 and LS3 from monaro engines is it linked at all with that?

My sons initials  ;D

Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 20:38:

RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 20:06: Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:57: Marks DTM Calib wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:54: Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:50: That Vauxhall putting the 3.0 diesel engine in the omega would've been a good move? I was thinking earlier whilst reading on the Saab forums, the 3.0 is a Vx engine according to the guys on there (pretty sure it is too), why didn't they put this in would've made a lot of sense don't you think. Its an Isuzu lump...... Yeah, but Vx are big Isuzu users so I just say Vx ;D It's got good power, sort of reliable and I think would've made perfect sense for a big exec car like the Mig. Robsey thats a better idea mate  :y Thanks, What's LSG 1 stand for? as you get LS1 LS2 and LS3 from monaro engines is it linked at all with that? My sons initials  ;D

All good  ;D
was starting to think you had a LS1 monaro 5.7

RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 20:44:

Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 20:38: RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 20:06: Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:57: Marks DTM Calib wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:54: Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:50: That Vauxhall putting the 3.0 diesel engine in the omega would've been a good move? I was thinking earlier whilst reading on the Saab forums, the 3.0 is a Vx engine according to the guys on there (pretty sure it is too), why didn't they put this in would've made a lot of sense don't you think. Its an Isuzu lump...... Yeah, but Vx are big Isuzu users so I just say Vx ;D It's got good power, sort of reliable and I think would've made perfect sense for a big exec car like the Mig. Robsey thats a better idea mate  :y Thanks, What's LSG 1 stand for? as you get LS1 LS2 and LS3 from monaro engines is it linked at all with that? My sons initials  ;D All good  ;D was starting to think you had a LS1 monaro 5.7

Only a 2.8 at the moment  ;D

turbo too  :)

RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 20:47:

turbo too  :)

Well yeah that does make a difference  and puts a big smile on your face  :). When are you getting your VXR?

Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 19:50:

That Vauxhall putting the 3.0 diesel engine in the omega would've been a good move? I was thinking earlier whilst reading on the Saab forums, the 3.0 is a Vx engine according to the guys on there (pretty sure it is too), why didn't they put this in would've made a lot of sense don't you think.

BMW 3.0 Diesel would be more sensible and easier to fit

Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 20:49:

RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 20:47: turbo too  :) Well yeah that does make a difference  and puts a big smile on your face  :). When are you getting your VXR?

Have one already, had close to two months now.
V8 6.0 LS2, very nice too  ;D

In fact i've been to two meets so far not far from where you live.
Last weekend there was 14 monaros heading down around m26/m25.
that makes a few turn there heads  ;D

RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 20:55:

Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 20:49: RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 20:47: turbo too  :) Well yeah that does make a difference  and puts a big smile on your face  :). When are you getting your VXR? Have one already, had close to two months now. V8 6.0 LS2, very nice too  ;D In fact i've been to two meets so far not far from where you live. Last weekend there was 14 monaros heading down around m26/m25. that makes a few turn there heads  ;D

How you liking it mate?

Let us know next time your down pop in for a coffee  :y

Still love the mig mate as i think you get alot of car for the money, althought monaro is the toy to have, sadly got it wrong time of year as 590nm of output to rear wheels is way to much to hold on the roads in this weather  :(
very load wortec runing gear fitted and is kicking out just under the 500 BHP mark.

RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:06:

Still love the mig mate as i think you get alot of car for the money, althought monaro is the toy to have, sadly got it wrong time of year as 590nm of output to rear wheels is way to much to hold on the roads in this weather  :( very load wortec runing gear fitted and is kicking out just under the 500 BHP mark.

Jesus, I bet thats erm fun in this weather ;D ;D

clear roads yes. Has a LSD as you may know so can lose the car very easy.
So might you get one?
guess this is a bit off topic now?

RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:20:

clear roads yes. Has a LSD as you may know so can lose the car very easy. So might you get one? guess this is a bit off topic now?

Just a tad, do like the Monaro's a lot, fancy a Range Rover or a 5 series BM now to be honest, quite interested in the VXR 8's though as you can get one for sub 20k now, will have to conside one defiantely  :)

Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:28:

RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:20: clear roads yes. Has a LSD as you may know so can lose the car very easy. So might you get one? guess this is a bit off topic now? Just a tad, do like the Monaro's a lot, fancy a Range Rover or a 5 series BM now to be honest, quite interested in the VXR 8's though as you can get one for sub 20k now, will have to conside one defiantely  :)

Might see you at the next meet then?
for the price to a BM you get the same and if not more sometimes plus save money to  ;D

RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:35:

Del Boy wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:28: RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:20: clear roads yes. Has a LSD as you may know so can lose the car very easy. So might you get one? guess this is a bit off topic now? Just a tad, do like the Monaro's a lot, fancy a Range Rover or a 5 series BM now to be honest, quite interested in the VXR 8's though as you can get one for sub 20k now, will have to conside one defiantely  :) Might see you at the next meet then? for the price to a BM you get the same and if not more sometimes plus save money to  ;D

What is the BHP standard 414?

Not that much i don't think? just over 400
my monaro has new cams that they fit with super chrager ecu remap cat back system and four single outlet headers.
also lower
six piston brakes too  :)

RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 21:48:

Not that much i don't think? just over 400 my monaro has new cams that they fit with super chrager ecu remap cat back system and four single outlet headers. also lower six piston brakes too  :)

Any piccies?

might think about putting some up but don't want to upset anyone  ;D ;D

RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 22:06:

might think about putting some up but don't want to upset anyone  ;D ;D

Put them in gen car chat thats what I did with my Saab pics  :y :y

Will have to see...  :y

I must admit I do keep looking at 530d's..
Cant belive the price of them on ebay...

2003/2004 ish with 140k miles ish (new shape) go for around £7K if you keep your eye open...

Will give it another year and see how much I can save, and hope that they will be under £6k by then maybe???  :P

Seems a steal to me at that price though  :o

(Waits for TB to come along and rip it to bits!  :-[ :-X :D)

RobseyMV6 wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 22:06:

might think about putting some up but don't want to upset anyone  ;D ;D

Upset... nah...Far from it.

Infact, I would think theres more chance of sending OOF members to the bathroom for a couple of mins  :-X :D ;)

Ian_D wrote on 17. Dec 2009 at 22:22:

I must admit I do keep looking at 530d's.. Cant belive the price of them on ebay... 2003/2004 ish with 140k miles ish (new shape) go for around £7K if you keep your eye open... Will give it another year and see how much I can save, and hope that they will be under £6k by then maybe???  :P Seems a steal to me at that price though  :o (Waits for TB to come along and rip it to bits!  :-[ :-X :D)

I agree mate, I want one next, well I'll see what comes along next anyway  ;D

Ian_D wrote on 17. Dec 2009 at 22:22:

..... (Waits for TB to come along and rip it to bits!  :-[ :-X :D)

Just drive darn sarf & kick his bike over if he does!  ;)  ;)  ;)

Andy B wrote on 17. Dec 2009 at 23:02:

Ian_D wrote on 17. Dec 2009 at 22:22: ..... (Waits for TB to come along and rip it to bits!  :-[ :-X :D) Just drive darn sarf & kick his bike over if he does!  ;)  ;)  ;)

;D ;D ;D

Del Boy wrote on 18. Dec 2009 at 07:29:

Andy B wrote on 17. Dec 2009 at 23:02: Ian_D wrote on 17. Dec 2009 at 22:22: ..... (Waits for TB to come along and rip it to bits!  :-[ :-X :D) Just drive darn sarf & kick his bike over if he does!  ;)  ;)  ;) ;D ;D ;D

;D :y Righto :P

IMHO, it depends how deep you want to go into things...

The 3.0V6 is a decent lump (from what I've heard).

But, would it ever have come about if the Omega was still in production?

It's a modern lump for a modern world, where the powers that be (for now - hopefully!!) are trying to push us into eco-wagons by daft taxation. And the car-makers are trying to pander to this, by producing said engines.

I was about to go into a significant rant, hinging on climate change propogander and the relative taxtion benefits, but I won't!

Long story short - nice engine, but shame about it's development reasoning.

Petrol (in retaliation) all the way for me.