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Message started by SteveT528 on 26. Mar 2010 at 00:36

Title: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by SteveT528 on 26. Mar 2010 at 00:36
is this impossible to find?  ;D ive been trying to find one for over 2 years now and its painful. :) is everyone holding on to them or are they just very rare.?

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Dany on 26. Mar 2010 at 09:20
There is one on ebay Germany but very very expensive... The guy exaggerates a bit...

http://cgi.ebay.de/i-IRMSCHER-HECKSCHURZE-OPEL-OMEGA-B-FACELIFT-LIMOUSINE_W0QQitemZ110469332932QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=item19b87c3fc4

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by mantahatch on 26. Mar 2010 at 09:29

Dany wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 09:20:
There is one on ebay Germany but very very expensive... The guy exaggerates a bit...

http://cgi.ebay.de/i-IRMSCHER-HECKSCHURZE-OPEL-OMEGA-B-FACELIFT-LIMOUSINE_W0QQitemZ110469332932QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutoteile_Zubeh%C3%B6r?hash=item19b87c3fc4



Wow, that price has to be madness.  :o

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Dany on 26. Mar 2010 at 09:35
I know! I were interested by this bumper and I have sent a few emails to this guy, but he don't care... And he try to sell it since a few months!

I have here the price listing for Irmscher parts in Germany, and this model is 473,27 €, the official price! But not available by them anymore...

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Jim on 26. Mar 2010 at 10:01
It took me nearly 2 years of searching to get a complete facelift irmscher kit for my 3.2

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Entwood on 26. Mar 2010 at 10:04

Jim wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 10:01:
It took me nearly 2 years of searching to get a complete facelift irmscher kit for my 3.2



Took me 10 minutes ....     :D :D :D :D :D


(I went to look at a different 3.2 and saw this one ...... decision was pretty instantaneous .. :)  )

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by chrisgixer on 26. Mar 2010 at 11:26
while on the subject, anyone know if its possible to fit a tow bar and double exit exhaust( one pipe drivers side tother pass side) with the irmscher rear double exit bumper?
ta

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by serek on 26. Mar 2010 at 12:45
dont think there is room for tow bar, meybe you need to cut bumper :(
will take photo later so you can see how much room is there

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by chrisgixer on 26. Mar 2010 at 13:05

serek wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 12:45:
dont think there is room for tow bar, meybe you need to cut bumper :(
will take photo later so you can see how much room is there

hmm was affraid of that, tow bar is a swan neck style with 2 bolts to remove the swan neck and have had to cut the original bumper to fit it.

The irmscher back box retains the silencer on the pass side, as you may know, and the link pipe to to drivers side is directly straight iirc so may not clear the tow bar as its hiden behind the bumper, probably in the same space the tow bar is cut into.

Will have to cut irmscher bumper i'm sure, may also have to get the exhaust altered as well, and cut the holes for parking sensors, and cut a hole behind number plate for lpg filler....(sigh)

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by serek on 26. Mar 2010 at 13:09
on my car I got extra matel plate over fuel tank where make lass room

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Kevin Wood on 26. Mar 2010 at 13:52

chrisgixer wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 13:05:
Will have to cut irmscher bumper i'm sure, may also have to get the exhaust altered as well, and cut the holes for parking sensors, and cut a hole behind number plate for lpg filler....(sigh)


Sounds too much like hard work to me. Could just spray it nocturno blue and leave it in my garage. ;)

Oh, wait! I have a tow bar.  :(

Kevin

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Foxycav on 26. Mar 2010 at 14:05
And heres me moaning cos i cant find an irmscher front grille. Ive waited an ice age for some parts for my Cavalier, that arent available anymore. Cant remember ever waiting over 2 years though, that is patience, Guess i'll have to be more patient for the grille :y

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by onherown on 26. Mar 2010 at 14:16
I have an Irmscher front grille. I offered it to anyone on here that wanted to come and replace it with a standard grille and got no takers, even offered a free tow bar under the same conditions. 8-) 8-) 8-)
Sorta Grown on me now.

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Foxycav on 26. Mar 2010 at 14:20
arghhhhhh lol wish id known Di. Never mind sure i'll find one eventually. Keep it on i think they look fantastic :y

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by onherown on 26. Mar 2010 at 14:24

Foxycav wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 14:20:
arghhhhhh lol wish id known Di. Never mind sure i'll find one eventually. Keep it on i think they look fantastic :y

I offered it to James when he did my car, he realy did not want it if I remember correctly.

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Jim on 26. Mar 2010 at 14:49
As I said earlier it took me 2 years to find all the parts I needed, and some parts come from Devon some London and the grill & wood irmscher steering wheel from Germany

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by MV6Matt on 26. Mar 2010 at 16:43

chrisgixer wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 11:26:
while on the subject, anyone know if its possible to fit a tow bar and double exit exhaust( one pipe drivers side tother pass side) with the irmscher rear double exit bumper?
ta


I think that the Irmscher Brochure says something about 'not compatible with tow bar' for that bumper.

Anyone still got one?

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by chrisgixer on 26. Mar 2010 at 16:56

Jim wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 14:49:
As I said earlier it took me 2 years to find all the parts I needed, and some parts come from Devon some London and the grill & wood irmscher steering wheel from Germany



yeah thats the bumper, and exhaust i have is in the bottom pic. But whats the metal plate and cross member for? are they needed?

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Kevin Wood on 26. Mar 2010 at 16:59

chrisgixer wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 16:56:

Jim wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 14:49:
As I said earlier it took me 2 years to find all the parts I needed, and some parts come from Devon some London and the grill & wood irmscher steering wheel from Germany



yeah thats the bumper, and exhaust i have is in the bottom pic. But whats the metal plate and cross member for? are they needed?


Heatshield for the fuel tank perhaps?

Kevin

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Jim on 26. Mar 2010 at 17:19

chrisgixer wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 16:56:

Jim wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 14:49:
As I said earlier it took me 2 years to find all the parts I needed, and some parts come from Devon some London and the grill & wood irmscher steering wheel from Germany



yeah thats the bumper, and exhaust i have is in the bottom pic. But whats the metal plate and cross member for? are they needed?

Yes they are needed the plate is to protect the fuel tank from the twin exhaust when you re-route around the tank and the cross member you can see in the photo is the standard under bumper for the rear of the car but to fit the irmscher rear bumper you need the parts that fit to it which can be see in the photo, as this is to attach and support the lower part of the bumper :y

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by chrisgixer on 26. Mar 2010 at 18:15
ooh this is going to be a battle, some fff >:(fabricating needed by the sound of it.


Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by mantahatch on 26. Mar 2010 at 18:22

Jim wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 14:49:
As I said earlier it took me 2 years to find all the parts I needed, and some parts come from Devon some London and the grill & wood irmscher steering wheel from Germany





Just a thought with that tailpipe. What is it made of ? steel or stainless. Is it worth taking to a stainless exhaust shop and see how much they would charge to copy it ?

Could be a nice little earner  :y

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Dany on 26. Mar 2010 at 18:33

Jim wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 17:19:

chrisgixer wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 16:56:

Jim wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 14:49:
As I said earlier it took me 2 years to find all the parts I needed, and some parts come from Devon some London and the grill & wood irmscher steering wheel from Germany



yeah thats the bumper, and exhaust i have is in the bottom pic. But whats the metal plate and cross member for? are they needed?

Yes they are needed the plate is to protect the fuel tank from the twin exhaust when you re-route around the tank and the cross member you can see in the photo is the standard under bumper for the rear of the car but to fit the irmscher rear bumper you need the parts that fit to it which can be see in the photo, as this is to attach and support the lower part of the bumper :y


This plate is delivered with the silencer kit? I don't received that...

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Jim on 26. Mar 2010 at 19:07

Mantahatch wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 18:22:

Jim wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 14:49:
As I said earlier it took me 2 years to find all the parts I needed, and some parts come from Devon some London and the grill & wood irmscher steering wheel from Germany





Just a thought with that tailpipe. What is it made of ? steel or stainless. Is it worth taking to a stainless exhaust shop and see how much they would charge to copy it ?

Could be a nice little earner  :y

Never thought of that ;)

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Jim on 26. Mar 2010 at 19:11

chrisgixer wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 18:15:
ooh this is going to be a battle, some fff >:(fabricating needed by the sound of it.

If you need any close up photos or measurements let me know as it not on the car yet :)

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by chrisgixer on 26. Mar 2010 at 19:37

Jim wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 19:11:

chrisgixer wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 18:15:
ooh this is going to be a battle, some fff >:(fabricating needed by the sound of it.

If you need any close up photos or measurements let me know as it not on the car yet :)


Thanks Jim, some pics of where the heat shield attaches would be handy, and any other shots you fancy while your there.

I may well need to get the exhaust altered to clear the tow bar, so a stainless exhaust centre may well be the place to send it.
;)

Thanks for input guys, and appologies to the O.P. for hijacking his thread.

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Jim on 26. Mar 2010 at 19:55

chrisgixer wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 19:37:

Jim wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 19:11:

chrisgixer wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 18:15:
ooh this is going to be a battle, some fff >:(fabricating needed by the sound of it.

If you need any close up photos or measurements let me know as it not on the car yet :)


Thanks Jim, some pics of where the heat shield attaches would be handy, and any other shots you fancy while your there.

I may well need to get the exhaust altered to clear the tow bar, so a stainless exhaust centre may well be the place to send it.
;)

Thanks for input guys, and appologies to the O.P. for hijacking his thread.

I'II get some pics maybe tomorrow if it stops raining ;)

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by SteveT528 on 26. Mar 2010 at 20:22
Its ok chris, im learning too here as i have a tow bar too  ::)

so if i dont get the bumper bar with the bumper it wont fit will it? thats more problems  ;D

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by chrisgixer on 27. Mar 2010 at 00:47

SteveT528 wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 20:22:
Its ok chris, im learning too here as i have a tow bar too  ::)

so if i dont get the bumper bar with the bumper it wont fit will it? thats more problems  ;D


not necessarily, Entwood has an Irmscher rear bumper as part of the full kit on his car, and is an avid tower with bar. Although from memory not the swan neck type. However his exhaust has both tail pipes exiting on the pass side, as stock. So not so much of an issue perhaps?

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Entwood on 29. Mar 2010 at 12:55

chrisgixer wrote on 27. Mar 2010 at 00:47:

SteveT528 wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 20:22:
Its ok chris, im learning too here as i have a tow bar too  ::)

so if i dont get the bumper bar with the bumper it wont fit will it? thats more problems  ;D


not necessarily, Entwood has an Irmscher rear bumper as part of the full kit on his car, and is an avid tower with bar. Although from memory not the swan neck type. However his exhaust has both tail pipes exiting on the pass side, as stock. So not so much of an issue perhaps?


Sorry to be late to this party ..we were away for the weekend.. :)

My bumper had to have a "slot" cut in it to take the tow bar. A great deal of care and measuring was done prior to cutting !!! If needed I can take piccies .. just yell .. :)

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by TheBoy on 29. Mar 2010 at 12:58

Kevin Wood wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 13:52:
Oh, wait! I have a tow bar.  :(

Pikey!

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Dany on 29. Mar 2010 at 21:40
I have bought an Irmscher complete body kit for my saloon... I'm about to mount all on my car but I have a towbar too... How can I do?

Entwood, can you please take some pics of yours? Just to see how it happens below... Thanks :)

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Entwood on 29. Mar 2010 at 21:44

Dany wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 21:40:
I have bought an Irmscher complete body kit for my saloon... I'm about to mount all on my car but I have a towbar too... How can I do?

Entwood, can you please take some pics of yours? Just to see how it happens below... Thanks :)


OK .. tomorrow morning .. if its dry !!!  :) should be on by lunchtime .. :)

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Dany on 29. Mar 2010 at 23:49
Thank you :)

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by serek on 29. Mar 2010 at 23:52
Dany what type of bumper you got to fit on you car
like Jim for duplex back box
or Entwood type??

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Dany on 30. Mar 2010 at 00:03

serek wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 23:52:
Dany what type of bumper you got to fit on you car
like Jim for duplex back box
or Entwood type??


I have the i 40 01 455, the one for the dual branched silencer.

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by chrisgixer on 30. Mar 2010 at 00:59

TheBoy wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 12:58:

Kevin Wood wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 13:52:
Oh, wait! I have a tow bar.  :(

Posh Pikey!

::)

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Andy B on 30. Mar 2010 at 01:08

Dany wrote on 30. Mar 2010 at 00:03:
.....

I have the i 40 01 455, the one for the dual branched silencer.


wheel barrow handles? one outlet either side of the middle :-/ like this?

I believe you can't fit a tow bar with this type of exhaust fitted. The right hand side of the exhaust passes behind the bumper ... which is where the tow bar is.

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Dany on 30. Mar 2010 at 08:40
Can't see your pic, but that what I though too... I did not yet do the assembly so I did not seen how it looks below...

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Entwood on 30. Mar 2010 at 11:00
Pictures as promised ... not fantastic as its started to rain ... again .. :(












but hopefully they show the "slot" we cut in the lower shroud of the bumper to get the towbar to fit. 'Twas done under the old adage ... "measure thrice cut once" .. but I think we measured a dozen times at least !!!

Looks like I need to get under there with some hammerite as well .. another job for the list.. if it ever dries up .. :(

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by serek on 30. Mar 2010 at 12:24

Andy B wrote on 30. Mar 2010 at 01:08:

Dany wrote on 30. Mar 2010 at 00:03:
.....

I have the i 40 01 455, the one for the dual branched silencer.


wheel barrow handles? one outlet either side of the middle :-/ like this?

I believe you can't fit a tow bar with this type of exhaust fitted. The right hand side of the exhaust passes behind the bumper ... which is where the tow bar is.

you right Andy. there no room at all for tow bar :y

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Dany on 30. Mar 2010 at 20:44
Errrrffff bad news so.... I'll see that later... Thank you for the pics Entwood ;)

Title: Re: Facelift irmscher rear bumper?
Post by Martin Imber on 30. Mar 2010 at 21:02

wrote on 26. Mar 2010 at 14:16:
I have an Irmscher front grille. I offered it to anyone on here that wanted to come and replace it with a standard grille and got no takers, even offered a free tow bar under the same conditions. 8-) 8-) 8-)
Sorta Grown on me now.



I've got a spare grill

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