As a follow on to my requests for assistance and advice I sought the assistance of one of the very best. Darth Loo Knee arrived today at 07:30 and 12 hours later had changed both head gaskets plus all of the other ancilliary components associated with the job. All genuine GM parts too - no aftermarket crap. Nothing left to chance and nothing done other than professionally. Anyone requiring a job to a high standard and at a very reasonable cost you can have absolute faith in this guy. Quite apart from that I also found that his knowledge of the Migs was astounding, not a bull******* like many who post appear to be, and freely gave any advice I requested.  We had a good laugh at some of the bum irrelevant advice proferred on the forums. Only the guilty can take offence at that comment! A very pleasant experience without any problems or bodges. Briiliant - and I will definitely be a returning customer whenever the need arises.
Thanx Daz, for the work and banter! :y
Cheeeeeers m8, now enjoy your holiday!
Funnily enough there were no PINK rags and definitely no RA. ;D
Ray

Bionic wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:16:

As a follow on to my requests for assistance and advice I sought the assistance of one of the very best. Darth Loo Knee arrived today at 07:30 and 12 hours later had changed both head gaskets plus all of the other ancilliary components associated with the job. All genuine GM parts too - no aftermarket crap. Nothing left to chance and nothing done other than professionally. Anyone requiring a job to a high standard and at a very reasonable cost you can have absolute faith in this guy. Quite apart from that I also found that his knowledge of the Migs was astounding, not a bull******* like many who post appear to be, and freely gave any advice I requested.  We had a good laugh at some of the bum irrelevant advice proferred on the forums. Only the guilty can take offence at that comment! A very pleasant experience without any problems or bodges. Briiliant - and I will definitely be a returning customer whenever the need arises. Thanx Daz, for the work and banter! :y Cheeeeeers m8, now enjoy your holiday! Funnily enough there were no PINK rags and definitely no RA. ;D Ray

You got off very lightly then Ray ;D ;D ;D

He's a good lad is our Daz ;)

I taught him all he knows  ;D ;D ;D

Maybe I should become a teacher  :o

12 hours to do both hg's? never done the job myself but sounds good going to me.

well done Daft loo knee.

some concerning comments though, nothing recent i hope?

chrisgixer wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:25:

12 hours to do both hg's? never done the job myself but sounds good going to me. well done Daft loo knee. some concerning comments though, nothing recent i hope?

Read some of my posts....... ;) ;D ;D

Bionic wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:16:

his knowledge of the Migs was astounding, not a bull******* like many who post appear to be, We had a good laugh at some of the bum irrelevant advice proferred on the forums. Only the guilty can take offence at that comment!

I must admit, I have never seen any degree of "bum irrelivent advice" posted on here...

(not guilty here, as I hardly ever get time to post any more  :D  )

chrisgixer wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:25:

12 hours to do both hg's? never done the job myself but sounds good going to me. well done Daft loo knee. some concerning comments though, nothing recent i hope?

Its about on the money....sometimes a bit quicker, sometimes slower....depends on what snags you hit and extras you do  :y

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12 hours to do both hg's

"Awesome"/ "Respect" / "May the force be with you" (delete as appropriate). 8-)

As a mere mortal it took me 3 weeks to do the head gaskets on my V6 ::)

What did the old gaskets look like? Where was the failure?

JamesV6CDX wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:28:

Bionic wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:16: his knowledge of the Migs was astounding, not a bull******* like many who post appear to be, We had a good laugh at some of the bum irrelevant advice proferred on the forums. Only the guilty can take offence at that comment! I must admit, I have never seen any degree of "bum irrelivent advice" posted on here... (not guilty here, as I hardly ever get time to post any more  :D  )

You don't answer your PM's either ;) ;D ;D

Andy H wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:36:

Quote: 12 hours to do both hg's "Awesome"/ "Respect" / "May the force be with you" (delete as appropriate). 8-) As a mere mortal it took me 3 weeks to do the head gaskets on my V6 ::)

Done, as requested

JamesV6CDX wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:28:

........I must admit, I have never seen any degree of "bum irrelivent advice" posted on here.....

:P There has been lots of irrelevant advice about bums though! ;D

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:43:

Andy H wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:36: Quote: 12 hours to do both hg's "Awesome"/ "Respect" / "May the force be with you" (delete as appropriate). 8-) As a mere mortal it took me 3 weeks to do the head gaskets on my V6 ::) Done, as requested

Well said Mark! :y

Debs. wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:47:

JamesV6CDX wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:28: ........I must admit, I have never seen any degree of "bum irrelivent advice" posted on here..... :P There has been lots of irrelevant advice about bums though! ;D

Toooo much info Debs! ::)

dad1uk wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:55:

Debs. wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:47: JamesV6CDX wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:28: ........I must admit, I have never seen any degree of "bum irrelivent advice" posted on here..... :P There has been lots of irrelevant advice about bums though! ;D Toooo much info Debs! ::)

Whos though?  :(

Great to Meet you Ray and Mrs Ray, thanks again for the food and none stop drinks :y :y

Both Head Gaskets were totally knackered, the drivers head water ways were worse of the two :-?
New Exhaust Manifold Gaskets, New Tranfer Pipe as the old broke  >:( so had to remove the "Nasty Bolt again ::)) New Cambelt & Tensioners, Water Pump  plus Anti Freeze, Cam Cover Gaskets as the passenger side was leaking. Everything was jet washed lovely and clean :y Started up first turn of the key which is a bonus ;D

This car is one of the best conditioned cars at R reg I have seen. Loads more life in it now :y

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:22:

I taught him all he knows  ;D ;D ;D Maybe I should become a teacher  :o

You are "The Master" you can get no higher :-*

I am honoured to be your Apprentise ;) :P :y

Irrelevant advice about bums? Has no-one else had to have a job re-done because the original advice that was given and acted on turned out to be BS bigtime? Those who provide information that is less than helpful know who they are, fortunately there are only a few of them who pop up all too often, but better still I now know who I can trust and who to disregard when it comes to advice.
Daz is one of the very best and we had a laugh at some of the advice previously given by those who think they know, but actually know jack.
Nice to know though that Daz is so respected (go on, have a dig at that one too) cos only m8s would take the pee like that. Pink rags and RA............................... You had me thinking he was well sunburnt and gay :D :D :D :D ;) Pink rags I can stand but RA AAAAAAAARGH! :'(
Ah well, mobile again so its back to the daily grind but at least I can get out for a drink now:P
Cherrs Daz for the comments, only wish there was as much life in me  ;D Started first crack at 3 this morning too (told you I was an early bird) Had to rise early to make sure I got the mess cleaned up of ther front before Cris   >:(:-* saw the wall! All done now though so my ass is safe...........unless I missed a bit ;D

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You are "The Master" you can get no higher I am honoured to be your Apprentise

Marks I wouldn't go anywhere near power generators shafts with Darth, you never know when he will be tempted to throw you in  ;D

Pleased to hear of your experience with Daz, sounds like you really enjoyed his company. :o ;)
but i'm not sure "those who give bad advice" do know who they are or they would not give it. Unless somebody tells them, politely, they wont learn. And if we dont tell them we cant really complain if they continue...?

So, what have i done? :D

I tend to agree with Chris.

If you don't want to name names, at least say what misleading piece(s) of advice you've been given.

Must also agree with Chris, and even as a "non-tech" I can see "silly" answers on several occasions.....  :(

That is the main reason for my attempts to try, as often as possible, to answer a problem with a link to the maintenance guides.

These are known to be accurate and well written, and should instill confidence in those who have only a little knowledege.... one of the problems with the "fast answer" is the recipient has no idea of the accuracy of the info given. 

In time we all build up a "memory" of who we trust and who we don't .... but those who come here for the first time witha problem .. and I bet that's 90% of new members ... don't have that info... and may well believe the first thing they read ... :(

Good "maintenance guides" and "how to's" ... and lots of pointers to them ....that will stop the "wrong" answers IMHO .

I think the key point here is "good intention"..

every member less or more try to help the other members here.. thats the reason for OOF..

and you cant blame someone if his info dont help at the end of the day..

could happen to any of us..  I personally work on computers for a long time and even my answers may be useless at one point.. because helping someone at a physically remote place is not that easy .. without actually witnessing the problem..

finally its your decision which answer will solve the problem..

glad Bionics problem is solved here.. and I trhink further analysis of the answers given not necessary  :y

its a forum, full of opinions, if all opinions where the same we would not need a forum in the first place as everyone would know the answer to a problem.

How to sort the wheat from the chaf?

Well first off, dont ignore the chaf, if a post is deemed to be missleading we must say so imo.

The hard bit is doing so without upsetting the good intentions of the person who gets it wrong.

We all cock up from time to time, we get tired, miss read, speed read, get distracted by work as the boss looks over your shoulder while your replying, etc etc.

We should bare that in mind when taking advice as well.


I get concerned about my own advice when i see others ignored when talking, well, rubbish basickly. If nobody picks up on it, they wont pick up on my errors either perhaps. I hope i would be politely corrected.

For the record, i've had bad advice as well, carlton rear donut bushes being the most obvious one. But it was given with good intention and would have been worthwhile if the blasted things would stay in.

I think we cannot solve this problem, but we can reduce it at least a little.
Just ask all people to think twice before suggesting anything, and if not 100% sure of their answer to write it down, so those in need of help can have a choice to wait for a better advice or confirmation of that one what they got.
 

I have been 'guilty' of passing on my own experiences without making sure I had thoroughly read it before pressing the Post Message button :-[  Happily, no damage would have been caused in that instance, and Thankfully Entwood was there immediately to put me right  :y. I can see the OP's point to a degree, but also agree that any seriously 'duff' information that has/may have caused damage or serious inconvenience, needs to be addressed in the open so that lessons can be learned.
While i'm on my soapbox, I may as well bring up 'again' the subject of spelling mistakes, bad grammar, text speak etc. I can't be the only one who has tried to read a Post and been unable to grasp the real meaning of it because I simply can't read it! This in itself can cause misunderstanding if a Post is misread.
Off the soap box, on with the Motley  ;D :y

This is a car forum.....and as such it can only provide possible causes and solutions + tests/actions to take in order to further identify the route cause.

It is upto and the responsability of the receiver of the information to decide and/or interpret the feedback given.

PhilRich wrote on 30. Mar 2010 at 12:23:

While i'm on my soapbox, I may as well bring up 'again' the subject of spelling mistakes, bad grammar, text speak etc.

Text speak I agree with.

Grammar and spelling I dont.

Its an automotive forum, not an english lesson and as long as the technical information is offered correctly and the information is clear then these 2 items are NOT important (and for me, this is true of the real world for most everyday situations to).  :y :y

I should add, this is in the worng section so I will move it to Car Chat  :y

I would just check how rusty the advice is and seek as many opinions as possible  ;)

VXL V6 wrote on 30. Mar 2010 at 12:47:

I would just check how rusty the advice is and seek as many opinions as possible  ;)

Clever ... :)   ;) ;) ;) ;)  and agreed with ... :)   :y :y :y

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Has no-one else had to have a job re-done because the original advice that was given and acted on turned out to be BS bigtime?

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we had a laugh at some of the advice previously given by those who think they know, but actually know jack.

I have never given you advice, I do not know who you are talking about, and know little about your car problems -

but, actually, I think you're being quite rude, and your comments are totally against the spitit of this forum.

Anyone offering advice or help will be taking the time to do so, with good intentions, regardless of how technically correct they are, and it's a pretty poor show if, rather than politely advising/educating them as to why the advice is incorrect, all you can do is slag them off - especially given that you can't/won't give any specific examples of this "BS Advice" you believe is being given.

Rather than making useless snidey comments, why not constructively address the points that concern you and make something positive from it?

Another aspect that tends to affect the quality of advice received is the quality of information given about the fault and the results of any diagnosis steps. Rubbish in, rubbish out.  ;)

Anyone who blindly acts on a single source of advice, in any sphere of life, without weighting it with other people's opinions, and considering the likely quality of the source is in for a nasty surprise one day.

Everyone has the option of dropping off their Omega off at the nearest main dealer with a blank cheque and a pot of Vaseline in the glove compartment, if they think that would lead to a better outcome.  ;)

Kevin

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Mar 2010 at 20:22:

I taught him all he knows  ;D ;D ;D Maybe I should become a teacher  :o

::) ::) ::) ::)

What is happening?

Entwood wrote on 30. Mar 2010 at 13:01:

VXL V6 wrote on 30. Mar 2010 at 12:47: I would just check how rusty the advice is and seek as many opinions as possible  ;) Clever ... :)   ;) ;) ;) ;)  and agreed with ... :)   :y :y :y

Exactly right Andy, plenty of effort put in, loads of enthusiasm and....not one piece of good advice that i saw, early on i thought "spammer" ....

But nobody said anything, thats what annoyed me, well, annoyed's a bit strong, but you know what i mean, as said previous, if we dont deal with the situation we cant complane if the situation continues....can we?

May i suggest in such cases we "politely" ask miss leeding posters to explane thier thinking perhaps?

Unhelpfull as it may be to post bollox, its equally unhelpfull to call the guy a "see you next tuesday"

....surely ???