I had over 130 on my post count this afternoon. Now I'm back to scratch.   :'( :'( :'(

Moderators please.

You haven't uttered THAT word have you? :o ;) ;D

What have I done wrong. Is this a sore point.   :-?

I removed 15 from your count when I got bored deleting you duplicate welcomes to newbies...as per the PM I sent you which you havent yet read.

Guessing that another admin - not me, got beaten to it - has trimmed your postcount as you have welcomed a number of newbies nope than once.  You getting the postcount numbers up, ready to sell something?  Why not join in and post over the boards rather than just overwhelm newbies?

Pleas believe me I have no new PM's.

I admit to the multiple welcome. But that was only until I noticed that I was doing it.

I was merrily clicking on the top post thinking it was another new member then scrolling to the bottom to add my welcome. After 15 or so I realised what was happening. every time someone else added a welcome the post went back to the top.

Genuine mistake and I'll be more careful in future.

Please give me my count back.  I won't do it again.   :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(

hotel21 wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:22:

Guessing that another admin - not me, got beaten to it - has trimmed your postcount as you have welcomed a number of newbies nope than once.  You getting the postcount numbers up, ready to sell something?  Why not join in and post over the boards rather than just overwhelm newbies?

I have absolutely nothing to sell,  see my posts in the Omega help section. I have loads of posta there.

You Naughty boy! Go & sit on the naughty step & contemplate your postcount navel until told to rejoin the human race by one of our nice Admins :) ;)

Kneepad wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:29:

hotel21 wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:22: Guessing that another admin - not me, got beaten to it - has trimmed your postcount as you have welcomed a number of newbies nope than once.  You getting the postcount numbers up, ready to sell something?  Why not join in and post over the boards rather than just overwhelm newbies? I have absolutely nothing to sell,  see my posts in the Omega help section. I have loads of posta there.

Hmmm, an Italian living in Scotland? You don't want 'two piss on a ma plate' do you by any chance? ;D ;D ;)




http://www.hotcatuk.com/video/981703:Video:18692

Kneepad wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:29:

hotel21 wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:22: Guessing that another admin - not me, got beaten to it - has trimmed your postcount as you have welcomed a number of newbies nope than once.  You getting the postcount numbers up, ready to sell something?  Why not join in and post over the boards rather than just overwhelm newbies? I have absolutely nothing to sell,  see my posts in the Omega help section. I have loads of posta there.

really?


Kneepad wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 00:21:

Peppermint flavour or the the brighter than white brand, being a smoker I suppose I should go for the latter.  ;D  :y Sorry, I'm trying to get my posts up so I can get into the parts for sale and wanted forum. ;D  ;D  ;D

You DO have a pm.  else the forum is broken.

hotel21 wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:22:

Guessing that another admin - not me, got beaten to it - has trimmed your postcount as you have welcomed a number of newbies nope than once.  You getting the postcount numbers up, ready to sell something?  Why not join in and post over the boards rather than just overwhelm newbies?

All my other posts are in the Omega General help section where I have genuinely tried to give the best advice that I could.
When I joined I was so pleased to see so many people welcome me I wnted to do the same for others joining.
Just got it wrong.     :'( :'( :'(

Sorry, I'm trying to get my posts up so I can get into the parts for sale and wanted forum. ;D  ;D  ;D[/quote]


You DO have a pm.  else the forum is broken.[/quote]


I do want in there but not to sell anything. I needed a bit for my sunroof.

I now have a PM. It was not there 10mins ago when you first mentione it.   :'( :'( :'(

Right,,,,

Wanted posts are allowed....just create a wanted ad in the test zone  :y

Its sellers with no reputation we have problems with

Kneepad wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:41:

Sorry, I'm trying to get my posts up so I can get into the parts for sale and wanted forum. ;D  ;D  ;D

That was a joke about toothpaste for cleaning the headlights.

You DO have a pm.  else the forum is broken.[/quote]


I do want in there but not to sell anything. I needed a bit for my sunroof.

I now have a PM. It was not there 10mins ago when you first mentione it.   :'( :'( :'([/quote]

Kneepad wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:41:

.... I needed a bit for my sunroof. ......

the magnetic disc wasn't it? I don't have a spare one, I just remember that someone needed one as theirswas cracked.  ;)

Jimbob wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:43:

Right,,,, Wanted posts are allowed....just create a wanted ad in the test zone  :y Its sellers with no reputation we have problems with

I did that, but couldn't reply to the post. So I sent PM and only got a reply today.

Why am I being subject to this humiliation.     >:(  >:(  >:(

Andy B wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:45:

Kneepad wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:41: .... I needed a bit for my sunroof. ...... the magnetic disc wasn't it? I don't have a spare one, I just remember that someone needed one as theirswas cracked.  ;)

Thayt was me. I think I have one on it's way. Thanks anyway.

Kneepad wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:47:

Jimbob wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:43: Right,,,, Wanted posts are allowed....just create a wanted ad in the test zone  :y Its sellers with no reputation we have problems with I did that, but couldn't reply to the post. So I sent PM and only got a reply today. Why am I being subject to this humiliation.     >:(  >:(  >:(

Keep shtum and move on, best way in my, considerable, experience....... ;D ;D ;D

Kneepad wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:36:

hotel21 wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:22: Guessing that another admin - not me, got beaten to it - has trimmed your postcount as you have welcomed a number of newbies nope than once.  You getting the postcount numbers up, ready to sell something?  Why not join in and post over the boards rather than just overwhelm newbies? All my other posts are in the Omega General help section where I have genuinely tried to give the best advice that I could. When I joined I was so pleased to see so many people welcome me I wnted to do the same for others joining. Just got it wrong.     :'( :'( :'(

Now, now Son; don't greet on so it isn't seemly ;) The Admins dont intentionally want to embarrass you, or ruin what was upto now a perfect day ::). They can't help themselves you see, it's the 'conditioning' they were subjected to while doing their 'bird' in Barlinnie Special Unit! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)

Quote:

Keep shtum and move on, best way in my, considerable, experience....... ;D ;D ;D

Ok I'll take your advice. I'm off back to the Omega Help where all the nice people are.   ;D ;D ;D ;D

Kneepad wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:53:

Quote: Keep shtum and move on, best way in my, considerable, experience....... ;D ;D ;D Ok I'll take your advice. I'm off back to the Omega Help where all the nice people are.   ;D ;D ;D ;D

See .... you're already up to 11 (again  ;))  :y  :y  :y

Kneepad wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:53:

Quote: Keep shtum and move on, best way in my, considerable, experience....... ;D ;D ;D Ok I'll take your advice. I'm off back to the Omega Help where all the nice people are.   ;D ;D ;D ;D

:y see how fast your post count is going up now though. ;D ;D
must type faster ::)

It;s a Post Count.  It matters not.

Anyway, it's common InterWeb knowledge that anyone with a postcount of over 1,000 doesn't have a real life, and their testicles/breasticles pixelate when enlarged.

Broomies Mate wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:56:

It;s a Post Count.  It matters not. Anyway, it's common InterWeb knowledge that anyone with a postcount of over 1,000 doesn't have a real life, and their testicles/breasticles pixelate when enlarged.

;D

Broomies Mate wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:56:

It;s a Post Count.  It matters not. Anyway, it's common InterWeb knowledge that anyone with a postcount of over 1,000 doesn't have a real life, and their testicles/breasticles pixelate when enlarged.

:o :o :o ::)

PhilRich wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:50:

Kneepad wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:36: hotel21 wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:22: Guessing that another admin - not me, got beaten to it - has trimmed your postcount as you have welcomed a number of newbies nope than once.  You getting the postcount numbers up, ready to sell something?  Why not join in and post over the boards rather than just overwhelm newbies? All my other posts are in the Omega General help section where I have genuinely tried to give the best advice that I could. When I joined I was so pleased to see so many people welcome me I wnted to do the same for others joining. Just got it wrong.     :'( :'( :'( Now, now Son; don't greet on so it isn't seemly ;) The Admins dont intentionally want to embarrass you, or ruin what was upto now a perfect day ::). They can't help themselves you see, it's the 'conditioning' they were subjected to while doing their 'bird' in Barlinnie Special Unit! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)

PM sent..... :)

I cant help but wonder... is this a bit harsh?

i know we have had people boosting post counts to sell something but does that automatically tar everyone with the same brush??

regarding the multiple welcome thing...is it just possible this was a genuine mistake?

Some people are more computer literate than others aswell so mistakes can happen,and forums can be confusing at 1st and can take time to get used to them if you have not used them before


If it turns out any member posts 'boost posts' and then tries to sell something,can the admins/mods just not 'nuke' the ad??

And.... rules of the forum are clearly there,but let's be honest here... how many people read them when they join? (rightly or wrongly)
Rules are rules and i abide by them,but i for one know another forum i was on that had sooo many rules that it became stupid and if you did something wrong admins 'jumped' on you, and it was like getting a bollocking from a teacher at school, forum members got fed up ,delted their account... end of forum.

Now before i get chastised here, i built and maintained my own car forum,so i do know how it all works and how much time and effort it takes for Admin and Mods to oversee things.

MonzaIain wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 22:05:

I cant help but wonder... is this a bit harsh? i know we have had people boosting post counts to sell something but does that automatically tar everyone with the same brush?? regarding the multiple welcome thing...is it just possible this was a genuine mistake? Some people are more computer literate than others aswell so mistakes can happen,and forums can be confusing at 1st and can take time to get used to them if you have not used them before If it turns out any member posts 'boost posts' and then tries to sell something,can the admins/mods just not 'nuke' the ad?? And.... rules of the forum are clearly there,but let's be honest here... how many people read them when they join? (rightly or wrongly) Rules are rules and i abide by them,but i for one know another forum i was on that had sooo many rules that it became stupid and if you did something wrong admins 'jumped' on you, and it was like getting a bollocking from a teacher at school, forum members got fed up ,delted their account... end of forum. Now before i get chastised here, i built and maintained my own car forum,so i do know how it all works and how much time and effort it takes for Admin and Mods to oversee things.

I agree with you fella.

With the For Sale Section, I think some other type of 'security' should be employed.  Perhaps pay £5 by PayPal/Cheque/Postal Order if you aren't a paid-up member of the site.

Anyone can achieve 250 posts in a non-descript manner.

Running a forum is a complete ball-ache.  What one person loves, another person hates.  Finding that happy medium is nigh on impossible.

When it comes to the For Sale thread, who cares if people get put off?  If they only want to join to sell something, they are no use to the forum or its members anyway.  Nobody would begrudge paying a fiver to advertise a car or a decent amount of parts, and paid-up members can advertise for free.  Flawless.

The Pajero forum i was on,didn't allow Ads as such just gave you an option to 'link' to a free ads site,which in all fairness was a pain in the you know what,but i agree we dont need newbie's joining to sell something then vanish again......

I actually agree with a small fee if you intend to sell, a fiver a year to become an 'Elite' member.That will put off the 'new sellers'

Make the 'Elite' membership totally optional, that way if you dont want to pay the fiver then you don't have to and you can still have full use of the forum, just can't sell owt......

If someone is selling a few parts or a complete car,whats a fiver? got to pay to advertise elswhere anyway haven't we?

The £5 could be put towards forum running costs or put in a seperate fund and could be used to cover costs at meets or whatever

Just my 2p worth  :y

The first principles concept of OOF was to make info available regarding care and maintenance of the Omega for no charge.  That still remains, shop sales excepted.   No plans, obtuse or otherwise, to change that.  Current 250 posts considered best option available at the mo.  No current plans to change that.

Broomies Mate wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:56:

It;s a Post Count.  It matters not. Anyway, it's common InterWeb knowledge that anyone with a postcount of over 625 doesn't have a real life, and their testicles/breasticles pixelate when enlarged.

At least your honest about it - respect. :y :D

Kneepad wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:47:

Jimbob wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 21:43: Right,,,, Wanted posts are allowed....just create a wanted ad in the test zone  :y Its sellers with no reputation we have problems with I did that, but couldn't reply to the post. So I sent PM and only got a reply today. Why am I being subject to this humiliation.     >:(  >:(  >:(

You are'nt matey, but when you said you had bo intentions of selling anything, the drawn out conversarion/humiliation got longer by the fact that you had contradicted yourself.

Now can i have my post count back.   :y

http://a.imageshack.us/img191/2752/chivasregal2t.jpg


I really don't want to sell anything

OK, it was me who docked your post count, now that you've explained yourself, I've re-instated it.

Thank you very much.

:y  :y  :y  :y  :y  :y  :y

Now we know ::) If you lose your post count just put up a pic of a bottle of Chivas Regal!! ;D ;D ;D ;)

But I haven't recieved it yet, so the post count could go again :D

hahaha just read all this. you guys are serious about your posts aren't you ; ) lmao

MonzaIain wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 22:29:

The £5 could be put towards forum running costs or put in a seperate fund and could be used to cover costs at meets or whatever Just my 2p worth  :y

2p?????? It's £5 mate. ;D

should do away with post counts and put up the amount of days you have been a member instead. saying that most people wont bother posting then.  ;D ;D ;D

MonzaIain wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 22:27:

I actually agree with a small fee if you intend to sell, a fiver a year to become an 'Elite' member.That will put off the 'new sellers' Make the 'Elite' membership totally optional, that way if you dont want to pay the fiver then you don't have to and you can still have full use of the forum, just can't sell owt...... If someone is selling a few parts or a complete car,whats a fiver? got to pay to advertise elswhere anyway haven't we?

That leads to a two tiered system, automatically that makes Member A seemingly more important than Member B, just because Member A can afford (or is prepared) to pay.

That goes beyond the philosophy of OOF, where everybody has the same access to all the information for free, and everybody is equal - within the (unfortunate) necessary confines needed to protect members to a certain extent.

Yep,I can see that TB, I wondered if all the £5 'Elite' fee's could be donated to charity...

I know on a forum nothing suits everyone :y

TheBoy wrote on 02. Sep 2010 at 21:50:

MonzaIain wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 22:27: I actually agree with a small fee if you intend to sell, a fiver a year to become an 'Elite' member.That will put off the 'new sellers' Make the 'Elite' membership totally optional, that way if you dont want to pay the fiver then you don't have to and you can still have full use of the forum, just can't sell owt...... If someone is selling a few parts or a complete car,whats a fiver? got to pay to advertise elswhere anyway haven't we? That leads to a two tiered system, automatically that makes Member A seemingly more important than Member B, just because Member A can afford (or is prepared) to pay. That goes beyond the philosophy of OOF, where everybody has the same access to all the information for free, and everybody is equal - within the (unfortunate) necessary confines needed to protect members to a certain extent.

Sorry TB, I dont follow that at all.  The £5 would be so members can post in the 'For Sale' section.  Unpaid members would still have full access and posting abilities in every other area of the site (except the admin/mod areas of course).

Lets be completely honest, if you have Omega Parts, this IS the only place to sell it.  If you have an Omega for sale, this is the place to trial an advert..... you'll get more than a fivers worth of advice on the advert alone before you go pay 723894237856 pounds to bang it in Auto Trader!

Broomies Mate wrote on 02. Sep 2010 at 23:27:

TheBoy wrote on 02. Sep 2010 at 21:50: MonzaIain wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 22:27: I actually agree with a small fee if you intend to sell, a fiver a year to become an 'Elite' member.That will put off the 'new sellers' Make the 'Elite' membership totally optional, that way if you dont want to pay the fiver then you don't have to and you can still have full use of the forum, just can't sell owt...... If someone is selling a few parts or a complete car,whats a fiver? got to pay to advertise elswhere anyway haven't we? That leads to a two tiered system, automatically that makes Member A seemingly more important than Member B, just because Member A can afford (or is prepared) to pay. That goes beyond the philosophy of OOF, where everybody has the same access to all the information for free, and everybody is equal - within the (unfortunate) necessary confines needed to protect members to a certain extent. Sorry TB, I dont follow that at all.  The £5 would be so members can post in the 'For Sale' section.  Unpaid members would still have full access and posting abilities in every other area of the site (except the admin/mod areas of course). Lets be completely honest, if you have Omega Parts, this IS the only place to sell it.  If you have an Omega for sale, this is the place to trial an advert..... you'll get more than a fivers worth of advice on the advert alone before you go pay 723894237856 pounds to bang it in Auto Trader!

I cant post in either of the sales sections anymore. I wouldnt mind but I havent actually done anything wrong. ::)

Yes you have. you promised TITS and all we got was a few birds.............................................. :-[

[quote author=1A20313A3D3B20272E490 link=1283197180/45#45 date=1283509248]Yes you have. you promised TITS and all we got was a few birds.............................................. :-[/quote]

But I did'nt let you down, were they or were they not 2 pictures of "Great Tits"   :D :o :o

Broomies Mate wrote on 02. Sep 2010 at 23:27:

TheBoy wrote on 02. Sep 2010 at 21:50: MonzaIain wrote on 30. Aug 2010 at 22:27: I actually agree with a small fee if you intend to sell, a fiver a year to become an 'Elite' member.That will put off the 'new sellers' Make the 'Elite' membership totally optional, that way if you dont want to pay the fiver then you don't have to and you can still have full use of the forum, just can't sell owt...... If someone is selling a few parts or a complete car,whats a fiver? got to pay to advertise elswhere anyway haven't we? That leads to a two tiered system, automatically that makes Member A seemingly more important than Member B, just because Member A can afford (or is prepared) to pay. That goes beyond the philosophy of OOF, where everybody has the same access to all the information for free, and everybody is equal - within the (unfortunate) necessary confines needed to protect members to a certain extent. Sorry TB, I dont follow that at all.  The £5 would be so members can post in the 'For Sale' section.  Unpaid members would still have full access and posting abilities in every other area of the site (except the admin/mod areas of course). Lets be completely honest, if you have Omega Parts, this IS the only place to sell it.  If you have an Omega for sale, this is the place to trial an advert..... you'll get more than a fivers worth of advice on the advert alone before you go pay 723894237856 pounds to bang it in Auto Trader!

So it becomes a community were some people can buy their way to some kind of superiority (as in being able to post in for sale sections)?

Whats wrong with the current system? OK, its not perfect, but far more perfect than allowing a stranger come in, pay a fiver, put up ads, never post anything out, and run off into the sunset....


IMHO, allowing ads is done as a service to our loyal members who keep OOF alive and vibrant.  There are plenty of other sites and publications for those who simply want to sell their leftovers...

TheBoy wrote on 06. Sep 2010 at 09:44:

Whats wrong with the current system? OK, its not perfect, but far more perfect than allowing a stranger come in, pay a fiver, put up ads, never post anything out, and run off into the sunset.... IMHO, allowing ads is done as a service to our loyal members who keep OOF alive and vibrant.  There are plenty of other sites and publications for those who simply want to sell their leftovers...

Agreed... If Sales became a "charged" service there would be even less protection than now. At least with a Post count the person selling has to have been around for a while and contributing :y :y

The key thing some are missing is that OOF's primary purpose is to support Omega owners with free advice and help.

Hopefully, in addition to this, it should be a reasonable place for general chat and banter.

Its not intended to be a sales site.

I should also add that only the admins and moderators can truly appreciate the hassle and overhead created by the sales sections.

Hence the post count limit, its not up for discussion (we as an admin team have tried all mentioned approaches already and discussed things for a VERY long time) and wont be altered in the near future.

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 06. Sep 2010 at 10:01:

The key thing some are missing is that OOF's primary purpose is to support Omega owners with free advice and help. Hopefully, in addition to this, it should be a reasonable place for general chat and banter. Its not intended to be a sales site. I should also add that only the admins and moderators can truly appreciate the hassle and overhead created by the sales sections. Hence the post count limit, its not up for discussion (we as an admin team have tried all mentioned approaches already and discussed things for a VERY long time) and wont be altered in the near future.

Well said ..   :y :y :y

Sorry to add to this, I would personally think that time of membership could be a factor. I'm saying this as a member of 3 years+ with a low post count, I'm a genuine member who gets on here a few times a month and try my best to post if I have something useful to add, and keep schtum if I don't.
But I respect that the mods / admins have made their decision - and the reasons for that, in particular that this should be a free site, which I have benefited from enormously.
The reason I'm posting is that I had a couple of posts removed from the help section, basically someone was having a problem with headlight washers and I said I have a surplus pump if interested, and a similar one for fog lights IIRC.
I never saw the post(s) appear on the thread so I assume it was removed..it was a genuine attempt to help someone out and perhaps recover a few quid from a bumper I had to buy to replace one which was damaged by a heavy handed parker in a car park this summer.
But I appreciate why the post was removed, from one perspective I was touting.
On the other hand I can no longer post replies in for sale and wanted which is a pain if I ever need anything.
Maybe open forum is the wrong place to discuss this, but I don't know who removed my post and there was no pm about this so I let it lie up until I saw this thread which struck a chord...
Is there a mod who can help me?

rule breaking ad's are normally deleted without explanation...the overhead for that is huge.


You can place wanetd ad's in the test zone and they will be moved  :y

Fair enough Jimbob - I don't have a problem whatever with that, but I can't Reply to topics in parts for sale - any chance this could be reviewed?

unclelicklug wrote on 06. Sep 2010 at 12:12:

Fair enough Jimbob - I don't have a problem whatever with that, but I can't Reply to topics in parts for sale - any chance this could be reviewed?

There is nothing stopping you sending a PM to the person asking for parts.  :y

unclelicklug wrote on 06. Sep 2010 at 12:12:

Fair enough Jimbob - I don't have a problem whatever with that, but I can't Reply to topics in parts for sale - any chance this could be reviewed?

That is part of the recent chances.

Basically, what was happening before, some people without enough posts were replying on other people's threads to get around postcount limits.  So we had little choice but to say only the OP and those with sufficient posts can reply to any threads in these section.  This means that if a low postcount member makes a Wanted post in test, once it's moved to the For Sale section, they can still reply to their own thread.


Draconian? Yup. But a few (as in lots!) individuals have taken the pee and ruined it for everyone.


The rules we implement have to be enforcible by the forum software, which currently rules out any calculations on length of membership.

Ah - now I understand.

Thanks for your replies Mark, The Boy, Jimbob.

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 06. Sep 2010 at 10:01:

The key thing some are missing is that OOF's primary purpose is to support Omega owners with free advice and help. Hopefully, in addition to this, it should be a reasonable place for general chat and banter. Its not intended to be a sales site. I should also add that only the admins and moderators can truly appreciate the hassle and overhead created by the sales sections. Hence the post count limit, its not up for discussion (we as an admin team have tried all mentioned approaches already and discussed things for a VERY long time) and wont be altered in the near future.

this not only true but so very very useful.......the girls aloud threads have been very entertaining :y