Just seen the 'Tonight' programme about the possibility of moving Daylight times forward by 1 hour...  Effectively putting the clocks forward 2 hours in the spring and putting us in line with Europe and on the CET time structure...

Wondering what you thought about it...

Everyone seemed really worried about the dark mornings, which is a fair point, kids to school etc.
I'd be just as worried about trying to get to sleep with a gang of youths kicking their football until eleven at night.


It aint natural like. OOOO-ARRRR.

Here's a question that sounds appalingly jingoistic but never mind.  Why does the UK have to fall in line with Europe?  Why can't they fall in line with the UK?

bluey wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:14:

Here's a question that sounds appalingly jingoistic but never mind.  Why does the UK have to fall in line with Europe?  Why can't they fall in line with the UK?

Sorry, but the days of Empire are over!! ::) ::)  We are, as always just another country of Europe which is full of ex-empire memories.  Now is the time to work together for a better Europe and better World.

Even the USA are now struggling to 'rule the world' and get their own way! :P :P

I don't see the point of changing it, the system at the moment does work and has done for a very long time.  At the moment it gets light at about 8am, which is quite late enough. 

Some prat said that it would give the leisure industry a boost, as there would be more people enjoying the light evenings, giving places a al fresco kind of feel with people dining outside.  In the summer, it gets dark after 9pm, many pubs and restaurants stop serving food at around 9pm anyway, do they think that all of a sudden that places will stay open for another hour???  I don't think so...  I don't think it would encourage outside dining either, purely down to our unstable climate...

Psychoca wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:22:

I don't see the point of changing it, the system at the moment does work and has done for a very long time.  At the moment it gets light at about 8am, which is quite late enough.  Some prat said that it would give the leisure industry a boost, as there would be more people enjoying the light evenings, giving places a al fresco kind of feel with people dining outside.  In the summer, it gets dark after 9pm, many pubs and restaurants stop serving food at around 9pm anyway, do they think that all of a sudden that places will stay open for another hour???  I don't think so...  I don't think it would encourage outside dining either, purely down to our unstable climate...

There's nothing worse than rolling out of a pub, pissed, at half ten and being blinded by sunlight.

It aint natural like. OOOO-ARRRRRR ;D

Yet another lame attempt to drag us kicking and screaming in to the 'Unites States of Europe'  >:( >:(

Welung666 wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:26:

Yet another lame attempt to drag us kicking and screaming in to the 'Unites States of Europe'  >:( >:(

Yes. This is the plan:

British folk, by and large, don't like Jonny foreigner. So we'll fill the country with non-british people and confuse the xenophobic b@st@rds by making it dark while they're. watching Jeremy Kyle.

wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:32:

Welung666 wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:26: Yet another lame attempt to drag us kicking and screaming in to the 'Unites States of Europe'  >:( >:( Yes. This is the plan: British folk, by and large, don't like Jonny foreigner. So we'll fill the country with non-british people and confuse the xenophobic b@st@rds by making it dark while they're. watching Jeremy Kyle.

I say bring back the Grand Fleet and we'll blast them all into submission......................oh, hang on, we have tried that one! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)

bluey wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:14:

Here's a question that sounds appalingly jingoistic but never mind.  Why does the UK have to fall in line with Europe?  Why can't they fall in line with the UK?

Quite simple Blue, successive Westminster governments have lacked the backbone, the will, the guts, the determination and the national pride to do anything but bow to the will of those in Europe who are now the true arbiters of power in our country.

When thinking about these faceless people in Brussels, with their manipulative ways, I'm always reminded of some lyrics from a song by the great Tom Waites (Small Chance Got Rained with His Own 38)


And the whores hike up their skirts and fish for drug-store prophylactics
With their mouths cut just like razor blades and their eyes are like stilettos
And her radiator's steaming and her teeth are in a wreck, and nah,
She won't let you kiss her, but what the hell do you expect?


And so we will continue to be =blanked over by these blanks in Europe until someone in our sovereign parliament (in as much as it is now) decides to grow a set of balls and tells them to blank off and practice their dark arts elsewhere.

Desperate Den wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:36:

bluey wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:14: Here's a question that sounds appalingly jingoistic but never mind.  Why does the UK have to fall in line with Europe?  Why can't they fall in line with the UK? Quite simple Blue, successive Westminster governments have lacked the backbone, the will, the guts, the determination and the national pride to do anything but bow to the will of those in Europe who are now the true arbiters of power in our country. When thinking about these faceless people in Brussels, with their manipulative ways, I'm always reminded of some lyrics from a song by the great Tom Waites (Small Chance Got Rained with His Own 38) And the whores hike up their skirts and fish for drug-store prophylactics With their mouths cut just like razor blades and their eyes are like stilettos And her radiator's steaming and her teeth are in a wreck, and nah, She won't let you kiss her, but what the hell do you expect? And so we will continue to be =blanked over by these blanks in Europe until someone in our sovereign parliament (in as much as it is now) decides to grow a set of balls and tells them to blank off and practice their dark arts elsewhere.

Keep taking the pills, Den.

Desperate Den wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:36:

bluey wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:14: Here's a question that sounds appalingly jingoistic but never mind.  Why does the UK have to fall in line with Europe?  Why can't they fall in line with the UK? Quite simple Blue, successive Westminster governments have lacked the backbone, the will, the guts, the determination and the national pride to do anything but bow to the will of those in Europe who are now the true arbiters of power in our country. When thinking about these faceless people in Brussels, with their manipulative ways, I'm always reminded of some lyrics from a song by the great Tom Waites (Small Chance Got Rained with His Own 38) And the whores hike up their skirts and fish for drug-store prophylactics With their mouths cut just like razor blades and their eyes are like stilettos And her radiator's steaming and her teeth are in a wreck, and nah, She won't let you kiss her, but what the hell do you expect? And so we will continue to be =blanked over by these blanks in Europe until someone in our sovereign parliament (in as much as it is now) decides to grow a set of balls and tells them to blank off and practice their dark arts elsewhere.

http://betterrugbyrules.blogtown.co.nz/files/2008/06/hands_clapping.gif

BACK OFF BRUSSELS.
http://www.thepublandlord.com/links/backoffbrussels/

Interestingly, it is a woman Tory MP who is behind this. Does this demonstrate that -
1.The Tory party is now a nice shade of lefty, EU friendly Pink, rather than that nasty Blue ?
2.That this is yet another EU conspiracy to conquer us Brits ?
3. The fairer sex shouldnt get involved in complicated matters like politics, but stick to what they are good at - staying at home cooking and looking after babies, while men sort out the issues which their larger brains are capable of understanding ?



Tin hat and flak jacket on, and running like feck. :D ;D ;D

Albs wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:41:

BACK OFF BRUSSELS. http://www.thepublandlord.com/links/backoffbrussels/ Interestingly, it is a woman Tory MP who is behind this. Does this demonstrate that - 1.The Tory party is now a nice shade of lefty, EU friendly Pink, rather than that nasty Blue ? 2.That this is yet another EU conspiracy to conquer us Brits ? 3. The fairer sex shouldnt get involved in complicated matters like politics, but stick to what they are good at - staying at home cooking and looking after babies, while men sort out the issues which their larger brains are capable of understanding ? Tin hat and flak jacket on, and running like feck. :D ;D ;D

Homesick, are we?

wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:13:

Everyone seemed really worried about the dark mornings, which is a fair point, kids to school etc. I'd be just as worried about trying to get to sleep with a gang of youths kicking their football until eleven at night. It aint natural like. OOOO-ARRRR.

As a young man in my prime (26).......I don't need much sleep and usually party up to three or four in the morning ....with lots of young dolly birds... ::) ::) :)

Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:43:

wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:13: Everyone seemed really worried about the dark mornings, which is a fair point, kids to school etc. I'd be just as worried about trying to get to sleep with a gang of youths kicking their football until eleven at night. It aint natural like. OOOO-ARRRR. As a young man in my prime (26).......I don't need much sleep and usually party up to three or four in the morning ....with lots of young dolly birds... ::) ::) :)

After you've gone to sleep, you dream, obviously.

wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:44:

Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:43: wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:13: Everyone seemed really worried about the dark mornings, which is a fair point, kids to school etc. I'd be just as worried about trying to get to sleep with a gang of youths kicking their football until eleven at night. It aint natural like. OOOO-ARRRR. As a young man in my prime (26).......I don't need much sleep and usually party up to three or four in the morning ....with lots of young dolly birds... ::) ::) :) After you've gone to sleep, you wet dream, obviously.

Steve!!  How could you say such a thing?!! :o :o :o :o :o :o

Poor Opti ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:44:

Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:43: wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:13: Everyone seemed really worried about the dark mornings, which is a fair point, kids to school etc. I'd be just as worried about trying to get to sleep with a gang of youths kicking their football until eleven at night. It aint natural like. OOOO-ARRRR. As a young man in my prime (26).......I don't need much sleep and usually party up to three or four in the morning ....with lots of young dolly birds... ::) ::) :) After you've gone to sleep, you dream, obviously.

I'm off to watch Trevor Eve for the next hour now......then I'll be out all night pulling crumpet..... :)

Lizzie Zoom wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:48:

wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:44: Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:43: wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:13: Everyone seemed really worried about the dark mornings, which is a fair point, kids to school etc. I'd be just as worried about trying to get to sleep with a gang of youths kicking their football until eleven at night. It aint natural like. OOOO-ARRRR. As a young man in my prime (26).......I don't need much sleep and usually party up to three or four in the morning ....with lots of young dolly birds... ::) ::) :) After you've gone to sleep, you wet dream, obviously. Steve!!  How could you say such a thing?!! :o :o :o :o :o :o Poor Opti ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Don't make me think about Opti and wet dreams Lizzie. Noooooooooooooooo......................

Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:49:

wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:44: Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:43: wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:13: Everyone seemed really worried about the dark mornings, which is a fair point, kids to school etc. I'd be just as worried about trying to get to sleep with a gang of youths kicking their football until eleven at night. It aint natural like. OOOO-ARRRR. As a young man in my prime (26).......I don't need much sleep and usually party up to three or four in the morning ....with lots of young dolly birds... ::) ::) :) After you've gone to sleep, you dream, obviously. I'm off to watch Trevor Eve for the next hour now......then I'll be out all night pulling crumpet..... :)

Well, pulling something...

wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:50:

Lizzie Zoom wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:48: wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:44: Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:43: wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:13: Everyone seemed really worried about the dark mornings, which is a fair point, kids to school etc. I'd be just as worried about trying to get to sleep with a gang of youths kicking their football until eleven at night. It aint natural like. OOOO-ARRRR. As a young man in my prime (26).......I don't need much sleep and usually party up to three or four in the morning ....with lots of young dolly birds... ::) ::) :) After you've gone to sleep, you wet dream, obviously. Steve!!  How could you say such a thing?!! :o :o :o :o :o :o Poor Opti ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Don't make me think about Opti and wet dreams Lizzie. Noooooooooooooooo......................

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)

I'm visiting Wakefield tonight Steve.........I hear that is where all the classy... elegant.... and educated women hang out.... ::) :P :P :P

Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:49:

I'm off to watch Trevor Eve for the next hour now......then I'll be out all night pulling crumpet..... :)

Mmm. Got some of that in the bread bin, actually. Time to fire up the toaster. :P

Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:55:

I'm visiting Wakefield tonight Steve.........I hear that is where all the classy... elegant.... and educated women hang out.... ::) :P :P :P

You hear right. But I doubt they'd have anything to do with a bumkin like you. Sorry.

Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:55:

I'm visiting Wakefield tonight Steve.........I hear that is where all the classy... elegant.... and educated women hang out.... ::) :P :P :P

::) Yes, one may see them hanging out on street corners and also, out of their dresses! :P

Welung666 wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:41:

Desperate Den wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:36: bluey wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:14: Here's a question that sounds appalingly jingoistic but never mind.  Why does the UK have to fall in line with Europe?  Why can't they fall in line with the UK? Quite simple Blue, successive Westminster governments have lacked the backbone, the will, the guts, the determination and the national pride to do anything but bow to the will of those in Europe who are now the true arbiters of power in our country. When thinking about these faceless people in Brussels, with their manipulative ways, I'm always reminded of some lyrics from a song by the great Tom Waites (Small Chance Got Rained with His Own 38) And the whores hike up their skirts and fish for drug-store prophylactics With their mouths cut just like razor blades and their eyes are like stilettos And her radiator's steaming and her teeth are in a wreck, and nah, She won't let you kiss her, but what the hell do you expect? And so we will continue to be =blanked over by these blanks in Europe until someone in our sovereign parliament (in as much as it is now) decides to grow a set of balls and tells them to blank off and practice their dark arts elsewhere. http://betterrugbyrules.blogtown.co.nz/files/2008/06/hands_clapping.gif

+1*2 :y

Debs. wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:58:

Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:55: I'm visiting Wakefield tonight Steve.........I hear that is where all the classy... elegant.... and educated women hang out.... ::) :P :P :P ::) Yes, one may see them hanging out on street corners and also, out of their dresses! :P

I'll go and have a look and report back. If I'm not back by morning...whoopee.

wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 21:06:

Debs. wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:58: Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:55: I'm visiting Wakefield tonight Steve.........I hear that is where all the classy... elegant.... and educated women hang out.... ::) :P :P :P ::) Yes, one may see them hanging out on street corners and also, out of their dresses! :P I'll go and have a look and report back. If I'm not back by morning...I've got the clap and I'm at the STD clinic...........whoopee.

That's not a thing to look down forward too Steve!! :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)

There's only so much lightin a day so just leave as it is, after all, all times are plus or minus GMT which goes through Britain England  :y  :y  :y

What I sort of meant but never bothered to write was, which is correct, UK time with number of daylight hours or Europe? 
Oh well, who cares what I wrote, the replies were good reading.  :)

Personally, I just wish they'd leave the bloody clocks alone! ::)

wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 21:06:

Debs. wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:58: Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:55: I'm visiting Wakefield tonight Steve.........I hear that is where all the classy... elegant.... and educated women hang out.... ::) :P :P :P ::) Yes, one may see them hanging out on street corners and also, out of their dresses! :P I'll go and have a look and report back. If I'm not back by morning...whoopee.

Nothing to report, I'm glad to say. Just respectable ladies plying their trade from their own homes. ::)

Albs wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:41:

BACK OFF BRUSSELS. http://www.thepublandlord.com/links/backoffbrussels/ Interestingly, it is a woman Tory MP who is behind this. Does this demonstrate that - 1.The Tory party is now a nice shade of lefty, EU friendly Pink, rather than that nasty Blue ? 2.That this is yet another EU conspiracy to conquer us Brits ? 3. The fairer sex shouldnt get involved in complicated matters like politics, but stick to what they are good at - staying at home cooking and looking after babies, while men sort out the issues which their larger brains are capable of understanding ? Tin hat and flak jacket on, and running like feck. :D ;D ;D

Sorry but the last PM with guts and determination was a woman.

Opti wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:43:

wrote on 20. Jan 2011 at 20:13: Everyone seemed really worried about the dark mornings, which is a fair point, kids to school etc. I'd be just as worried about trying to get to sleep with a gang of youths kicking their football until eleven at night. It aint natural like. OOOO-ARRRR. As a young man in my prime (26).......I don't need much sleep and usually party up to three or four in the morning ....with lots of young dolly birds... ::) ::) :)

You tart  ;D ;D ;D

Oh dear. Another thread with the "hate Europe and blame anything on some faceless folk in Brussels" gone wrong. Seems quiet since the instigators nearer home were outed!

On a personal note I loath the fact that Britain is an hour behind Spain. Folk ring us just when we are eating or just going to bed. Sorry forgot you were an hour infront. Worse, when we are watching English TV(via Sky hrumm) everything good starts so damn late!

So personally, I can't wait for Engkland to adopt CET.

The ironic thing is that Spain is saddled with its time apparently because Franco liked Hitler so much he said we will be on German time. No one has had the balls since to put them back on the proper time!!! 

Varche wrote on 21. Jan 2011 at 20:57:

... On a personal note I loath the fact that Britain is an hour behind Spain. ....

Britain isn't behind Spain. As said, the World's time centres around GMT, so Spain is an hour in front of Britain ie GMT +1hour  ;)  ;)  ;)

Varche wrote on 21. Jan 2011 at 20:57:

Oh dear. Another thread with the "hate Europe and blame anything on some faceless folk in Brussels" gone wrong. Seems quiet since the instigators nearer home were outed!

I wouldn't exactly say that V, and should you wish me continue to rip the pish out of Europe I will be more than happy to oblige. :y

Andy B wrote on 21. Jan 2011 at 21:17:

Varche wrote on 21. Jan 2011 at 20:57: ... On a personal note I loath the fact that Britain is an hour behind Spain. ....  Britain isn't behind Spain. As said, the World's time centres around GMT, so Spain is an hour in front of Britain ie GMT +1hour  ;)  ;)  ;)

It is when you are actually in Spain. Trust me. :y

Mr Z. Keep ripping into any EU excesses you can find. They need exposing. In the meantime I will keep exposing the monumental waste in defence (Nimrod cancellation £3.9BILLION). Lets get our own house in order too. 

Varche wrote on 21. Jan 2011 at 22:47:

Lets get our own house in order too.

I'm all for it V, but I would go further - we need it to be torn down and the incompetents/wide-boys/sharp-eyed/money loving/gutless/spineless/sycophantic/day-dreamers and those there for everything but to a job of work for the people of this country, who presently roam large within the precincts, to be bitch-slapped from its curtilage and from public service.

Desperate Den wrote on 22. Jan 2011 at 08:35:

Varche wrote on 21. Jan 2011 at 22:47: Lets get our own house in order too.  I'm all for it V, but I would go further - we need it to be torn down and the incompetents/wide-boys/sharp-eyed/money loving/gutless/spineless/sycophantic/day-dreamers and those there for everything but to a job of work for the people of this country, who presently roam large within the precincts, to be bitch-slapped from its curtilage and from public service.

Don't hold back, say what you really think! I don't think other forum members will mind. In fact it might help galvanise a bit of action. :y