Post by RobG on 24. Mar 2011 at 18:04
Entwood wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 17:38:
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Omega Help >> Omega General Help >> Front Wheel Bearing https://oldsite.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1300977424 Message started by Entwood on 24. Mar 2011 at 15:37 |
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Title: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 24. Mar 2011 at 15:37
"Drone" from the front is getting progressively worse, especially at around 30-50 mph. If I turn the steering sharply right the noise stops.
So I've jacked it up just now. No play at all in either hub, (as Chris proved at the meet), but if I spin the drivers side wheel there is a definite "rumble" that is not present on the passenger side, so I'm guessing the drivers side wheel bearing is on its way out.... :( As I'll be doing nearly 2000 miles at the end of next month methinks it needs sorting sooner than later. Had a read of the "how-to" and it "seems" OK .. but the pictures and words at "reply #2" are missing .... am I missing anything important ??? http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1175890350 Best place for relevant parts ??? or is a Vx only part ?? Lastly ... do "Tool Hire" places normally hire out torque wrenches ? Mine is nowhere near 320 NM !!!! |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Elite Pete on 24. Mar 2011 at 15:50
Contitech wheel bearings Nige from www.buypartsby.com ;)
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by davethediver on 24. Mar 2011 at 15:50
http://www.buypartsby.co.uk/
Front wheel bearing kit is CDK603 £26.50 + vat & delivery when I got them last year Don`t think they`re listed on website. Phone number for mail order is 0115 9835280 :y As for the torque wrench no idea but i know when it came to undoing it in the first place it took me and Elite Petes long pole some serious bending to get it off :y |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Elite Pete on 24. Mar 2011 at 16:22 davethediver wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 15:50:
Shhhhh don't tell everyone :D |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 24. Mar 2011 at 16:25
Only one I can find at Buypartsby is
Part Number : 713644540 Cost : £49.60 + vat is that the right one ?? and now I'm worried about undoing the thing .. :( |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by RobG on 24. Mar 2011 at 16:29 Entwood wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 16:25:
Give `em a ring and quote "CDK603" Doddle to do Nige. Less force needed to undo than to tighten. :y |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by hotel21 on 24. Mar 2011 at 16:35
You ascertained for sure which side is duff yet Entwood? The drone should be more pronounced when the suspension on the duff side is loaded. So left hand bend loads the right side of the car and vice versa.... :y
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by hotel21 on 24. Mar 2011 at 16:36
Just re-read your initial post. You turn sharp right and the drone stops. That would tend to indicate that the right side is duff as when turning right the right side suspension is unloaded and the left loaded. :y
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by davethediver on 24. Mar 2011 at 16:37
As Rob says Nige give them a ring its NOT listed on their site but they have good stock of them mine arrived the following day.
Really isn't that bad to do but someone had tightened mine up well past 320Nm (probably in an attempt to stop it droneing rather than replace it). |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Marks DTM Calib on 24. Mar 2011 at 16:40
A tightening option is to tighten the nut to the highest setting on your torque wrench, then nip it up a bit more and then check for play, tighten until the play goes away :y
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 24. Mar 2011 at 17:38 davethediver wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 16:37:
Is the CDK603 "just" the bearing or the bearing in the hub ??? I don't have the facilities to press in a bearing so will buy the hub unit. Wondering what the one they list at £49.60 is if its not Contitech .. :) |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by RobG on 24. Mar 2011 at 18:04 Entwood wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 17:38:
Complete unit Nige |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 24. Mar 2011 at 18:13
Thanks for that .. and I've found a tool hire place in Swindon that does a torque wrench to 400 NM, so just need to get a decent 32 mm socket and a gurt big breaker bar ... :)
I'll phone Buypartsby in the morning .. :) Your help appreciated ... just hope I don't end up breaking something (ie my back !!) :) |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 24. Mar 2011 at 18:37 |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by RobG on 24. Mar 2011 at 18:46
When I did mine Nige I just used a standard 32mm
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 24. Mar 2011 at 18:59 RobG wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 18:46:
Well I haven't got a 32mm so if I'm buying one I might as well get an impact one .. :) and its "only" just under £9 .. then £35 for the bar .. still .. you can never have too many tools ... :) My thoughts are simple .. even buying/hiring the tools and parts the bill will be less than £100 ... doubt a garage would do the job for less ... and I'll know its been done correctly .. :) |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by taxi al on 24. Mar 2011 at 19:09
Is it worth doing both? Just a thought but if one's on its' way... :-/
Also an ideal opportunity to check the front brakes over, given the mileage you're likely to be doing over the summer. :y |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 24. Mar 2011 at 19:21 taxi al wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 19:09:
'Tis a thought ... :) Brakes would be checked anyway as it was getting a full check before easter anyway. Did the Oil & Filter today as I had the jack out .. :) |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by chrisgixer on 25. Mar 2011 at 00:26
Did my pass side last week, I had trouble taking out the play, 2 ft breaker, with 3 ft bar and me swinging on the end, still a fraction of play. Couldn't do any more so had to throw it back together, including fitting the hub centre cap.(might be worth getting a new one of these, they can be stubborn and not reseal when refitted)
I have been able to take the play out with these tools before, but not this time :-? |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 25. Mar 2011 at 13:36
Right ..
Extra tools ... ordered :) CDK603 ..... ordered :) Torque wrench hire .... arranged :) How to .... printed and read .. :) Which leads to the next question ... "how to" says "hub carrier" bolts are angle tightened ... which I was always taught means don't reuse as stretched ... anyone any part numbers for replacement bolts so I can drop into dealers and pick em up ... I'm guessing 2 per unit ?? :) |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by RobG on 25. Mar 2011 at 13:52
90541296 (it`s in the pic ;))
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 25. Mar 2011 at 13:56 RobG wrote on 25. Mar 2011 at 13:52:
well I tried to read the part numbers on both pictures ... and got nothing sensible .... !! Still don't see either ending in a 6 ... top one looks more like an 8 .. bottom one more like a 5 !!! :) |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by RobG on 25. Mar 2011 at 13:58 |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 25. Mar 2011 at 14:06
Many thanks ... but that says "caliper bolts" .. those are the small ones I believe ... I was after the part number for the larger ones .. that go to 95NM then 30 then 15 .. :)
Sorry to be a pain .. must reinstall EPC at some point !! |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by RobG on 25. Mar 2011 at 14:17
Caliper bolts are 90541295. T`other ones secure the caliper mounting to the hub (that`s what you`re after innit Nige?)
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 25. Mar 2011 at 14:44
Totally confused now .. :( Reinstalled EPC and got nowhere .. :(
How to thread, http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1175890350 "Reply #4" .... says "Hub Carrier Bolts 95 Nm then 30 then 15" .... as well as "caliper bolts 30Nm" ... now the latter ones are the ones you get with new new pads ... not a problem 90541295 .... there are also .. on EPC ... "CALIPER TO STEERING KNUCKLE 90541296" but nowhere can I find "Hub Carrier" as the script mentions !!!! My problem is, once I get this in bits, I'll have no transport to get to the stealers ... so I'm trying to get all the bits in advance .. :) |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by RobG on 25. Mar 2011 at 15:14 Entwood wrote on 25. Mar 2011 at 14:44:
AKA hub carrier & AKA stub axle |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 25. Mar 2011 at 15:18 RobG wrote on 25. Mar 2011 at 15:14:
Ahhh .. all becomes clear ... :) Told you I was thick !!! Many thanks .. can now get the right bolts .. :) |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by RobG on 25. Mar 2011 at 15:19 Entwood wrote on 25. Mar 2011 at 15:18:
Your words not mine ;D ;D ;D ;D :y |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 25. Mar 2011 at 16:22
OK .. with any luck .. the last question ....... :)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1175890350 Pictures (and words) at "reply #2" missing .. and I'm guessing they are the actual removal of the hub ... does this need a "hub puller" or can the hub be "knocked off" from the rear ??? The "book of lies" has it being pulled off by fingers !!! after being torqued to 320 NM ?? I don't think so somehow !! (Ch 10 section 9 para 6 ) :) |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by RobG on 25. Mar 2011 at 16:25
Sometimes it can be pulled off with your hands, failing that, a few taps with a hammer :y
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Entwood on 25. Mar 2011 at 16:43 RobG wrote on 25. Mar 2011 at 16:25:
Magic thanks .. if it all works I'll owe you a beer or two ..... find out next Thursday if its dry .. :) |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by The Red Baron on 25. Mar 2011 at 17:24
you will be fine, not really a bad job to do at all. :y
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by chrisgixer on 25. Mar 2011 at 19:38 RobG wrote on 25. Mar 2011 at 14:17:
So what's a stub axle Rob? ::) ;D :P Nige ignore this post, is ribin Rob, init! ;D |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by RobG on 25. Mar 2011 at 19:55 |
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Title: Re: Front Wheel Bearing Post by Marks DTM Calib on 25. Mar 2011 at 22:03
You dont need to replace the bolts, yes they are angle torqued but not nearly to the point of yield.
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