This is giving me the jitters........I want it but will end up single


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1991-VAUXHALL-SENATOR-CD-24V-WHITE-/170618987344?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27b9af2350

Senators rule! I had a 2.5, then 3.0 24v and 3.0 12v. Go for it!

P.S. Automatic better than manual, same as MIG!

Oh the memories. :-* 8-)............apart from the colour and the rust - a cracking car. :y
I want another nice one as a weekend car when I retire.

Albs, my ol' fruit, you spectacles seem to have a pinkish hue..... ;D

Not just me. Just about everyone I know who had a 24v Senator before an Omega says the Senny was the better car. ;)

Oh, and less of the old. :P ;D

Albs wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 22:36:

Not just me. Just about everyone I know who had a 24v Senator before an Omega says the Senny was the better car. ;) Oh, and less of the old. :P ;D

It goes without saying what my opinion is ...............   ::) ::)

And that m,lud concludes the case for the defence. :D ;D

Albs wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 22:45:

And that m,lud concludes the case for the defence. :D ;D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

It was a fine car in its day. Back in the 1980s. The Granada sucked, and beemers were still a nice car, but not available for junior managers.

But the Omega is newer, more refined, better handling and quicker (despite having to have cats). Deep down, you know the Omega is far superior.


That said, I always fancied a 24v example, when they were still current.

The Senator had cats, although iirc there would be nothing to prevent removing them. ;).......I believe a Senny is quicker than a 3.0 Omega. Mine handled at least as well as both my omegas imo.
and the omega is hardly a big step forward as it uses pretty much the same running gear apart from the inferior v6 engine, and is imo much more a case of a car built down to a price.
Ive always thought of the Omega as a replacement for the Carlton rather than the Senator. ;)

And - your wrong. ;D

Albs wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 23:09:

The Senator had cats, although iirc there would be nothing to prevent removing them. ;).......I believe a Senny is quicker than a 3.0 Omega. Mine handled at least as well as both my omegas imo. and the omega is hardly a big step forward as it uses pretty much the same running gear apart from the inferior v6 engine, and is imo much more a case of a car built down to a price. Ive always thought of the Omega as a replacement for the Carlton rather than the Senator. ;) And - your wrong. ;D

Totally with you there, the 2.5 wasn't that good, but the 3.0 24v was astonishing, IIRC I got sixty in first in my 24v auto, and the handling was very very good.

Albs wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 23:09:

..... Ive always thought of the Omega as a replacement for the Carlton rather than the Senator. ;) ....

More obvious in Europe where the Omega B replaced the Omega A ie our Carlton  ;) ;) ;)
The Senator was just quietly dropped ............ and they didn't go out of their way to advertise it when it was in production.

We've already proven in a straight line that a V6 not quite runnong to perfection is quicker across the range than a 24v S6 running fine, both with similar mileage on clock.

Handling is always subjective, but even on Sports setting, the Senators are like driving Elites ;D

Omega isn't a big step forward, its a further refinement of the V chassis, ironing out more problems, and getting more from the setup.  The massive improvements were a better, lighter engine (with better positioning), and far more reliable electrics/electronics around the car.

M,lud. I trust you dont object to the fact that the defence has introduced a new witness ? :) ;D ;D

TheBoy wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 23:19:

We've already proven in a straight line that a V6 not quite runnong to perfection is quicker across the range than a 24v S6 running fine, both with similar mileage on clock.Handling is always subjective, but even on Sports setting, the Senators are like driving Elites ;D Omega isn't a big step forward, its a further refinement of the V chassis, ironing out more problems, and getting more from the setup.  The massive improvements were a better, lighter engine (with better positioning), and far more reliable electrics/electronics around the car.

Well, theres drivers and theres drivers. The driver shouldnt be the owner of the car. He will be much too mechanically sympathetic. :)
Never had a problem with Senator electronics, and never met anyone who has. It was infinitely a more reliable car than an Omega. Change the oil and filters once a year and that was it. ;)
Omega - a fine replacement for the Carlton, but not in the same class as the Senny.

I was the owner of the faster MV6 ::)

Senator is infamous for window faults, BC faults, dash faults, central locking faults, cruise faults etc etc.

Senator and Carlton are not that far apart - share the chassis and the engines...


I think if you ragged one around now (with similar engine size to your Omega), you would be disappointed with performance and general ride.  If you're not, then buy it :y

TheBoy wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 23:32:

..... Senator is infamous for window faults, BC faults, dash faults, central locking faults, cruise faults etc etc.. .........

So they said, but I had Senators for over 10 years and only had cruise problems and the usual crappy wiring to the stater via the inhibit & alarm relay etc. The red/black wiring to the above loom became pot hard.

TheBoy wrote on 24. Mar 2011 at 23:32:

I was the owner of the faster MV6 ::) Senator is infamous for window faults, BC faults, dash faults, central locking faults, cruise faults etc etc. Senator and Carlton are not that far apart - share the chassis and the engines... I think if you ragged one around now (with similar engine size to your Omega), you would be disappointed with performance and general ride.  If you're not, then buy it :y

you being the owner driver of the MV6 explains things a bit - your not known for being gentle and kind to your engines. :D ;D ;D
The other bloke was probably concerned with the welfare of his pride and joy. ;D
I never had any of those faults with mine in 5 years. Only problem was a faulty relay.
If I found a really nice one (and could aford to put petrol in it) I would swap it for the Mig in a heartbeat.  ;)