As above. Are the 3.2 cams the same os 3.0 cams ?
If not are they an upgrade for the 2.6 the same as 3.0 cams are an upgrade to the 2.5 ?  :-/
Tia.

was wondering that myself, if theres any benefit putting the 3.2 cams in a 3.0l.  ::)

And if so is it better to also have the 3.2 inlet fanimold and sandwich plate ? :-/
Or to put it another way - are any of the parts from the 3.2 worthwhile as upgrades for any of the smaller engines ? :)

Albs wrote on 04. Apr 2011 at 20:44:

And if so is it better to also have the 3.2 inlet fanimold and sandwich plate ? :-/ Or to put it another way - are any of the parts from the 3.2 worthwhile as upgrades for any of the smaller engines ? :)

Intake manifold and splitter is the same as the 3.0. TBH, the cams probably are, as well, but I haven't ever actually compared them.

Kevin

So it wouldnt cause a problem fitting them to a 2.5 or 2.6 Kevin ?

Albs wrote on 04. Apr 2011 at 20:50:

So it wouldnt cause a problem fitting them to a 2.5 or 2.6 Kevin ?

I would ascertain the differences for certain before risking it (has it been done before?) but I suspect it would be fine.

At the minimum, measure the lift and make sure it's not massively increased.

Kevin

I have a feeling the 3.2 uses unique cams...  ...somebody needs to check EPC

3.0l uses 2 A cams and 2 G cams.

OK thanks Kevin. :y

And Jammy. :y :)........might be a question for Mr DTM ? :-/

TheBoy wrote on 04. Apr 2011 at 20:57:

I have a feeling the 3.2 uses unique cams...  ...somebody needs to check EPC 3.0l uses 2 A cams and 2 G cams.

I'm not very good at EPC .. but

1  CAMSHAFT, INLET, IDENT G, BLUE (NLS.- USE 90540003 56 36 016 ) X30XE  -08077074 (90509847) (56 36 004) 2   
  1  CAMSHAFT, INLET  08077075-  90540003 56 36 016 2   
  1  CAMSHAFT, EXHAUST, IDENT A, GREEN (NLS.- USE 90540002 56 36 015 ) X30XE  -08077074 (90443765) (6 36 007) 2   
  1  CAMSHAFT, EXHAUST X30XE 08077075-  90540002 56 36 015 2   
  1  CAMSHAFT, EXHAUST Y32SE   24456976 6 36 030 2 


It almost looks to me that the inlet cams are the same but the exhausts are different ??

:-? :-? :-?

The plot thickens. :D ;D I can see this becoming a challenge - who knows about which cams and what are they interchangeable with ?...........and what are the benifits when they are changed. ::) :D

Nige PM on its way, regarding another matter. :y

Inlets are the same, exhausts are different (but as we know, exhaust cams dont do that much)

Excellent, thanks Mark  :y. So it would be ok to fit them in any of the smaller engines ? and presumably similar gains to putting 3.0 cams in a smaller engine?  :-/

Albs wrote on 04. Apr 2011 at 21:46:

Excellent, thanks Mark  :y. So it would be ok to fit them in any of the smaller engines ? and presumably similar gains to putting 3.0 cams in a smaller engine?  :-/

Yes.

The exhaust manifolds also help a bit (off the 2.6 or 3.2) but require a minor mod to the downpipes.

Be better taking the 3.2 exhaust manifolds off and putting those on a 2.5 / 3.0

Taking this idea a step forward...

Would the heads/cams/manifolds from a 3.6 lump liberated from say an accident damaged cadillac cts fit on an Omega 2.6/3.2 block? :-/

For a variation, the top end from a 3.8 v6 with supercharger onto a 2.5/3.0? :-/

I'd have thought that suitable donor cars would still be readily available around East Anglia. :-/

taxi al wrote on 04. Apr 2011 at 21:51:

Taking this idea a step forward... Would the heads/cams/manifolds from a 3.6 lump liberated from say an accident damaged cadillac cts fit on an Omega 2.6/3.2 block? :-/ For a variation, the top end from a 3.8 v6 with supercharger onto a 2.5/3.0? :-/ I'd have thought that suitable donor cars would still be readily available around East Anglia. :-/

The 3.6 lump is an oldsmobile pushrod 12v lump if I'm not mistaken?

Kevin

Very different lump so no.....thats the global V6 ala the 2.8 Vectra

Ignore the above. That was the 3.8. ::)

Just for the sake of clarification. Im not personally fitting these parts to my car. I want to sell them in the near future, but I want to ensure I dont sell someone parts which arent suitable for their engine etc.
Interesting to hear about the exhaust fanimolds. :) :y

I take it then that the veccy v6 (2.8 et al) is different again to the v6 in the Omega, or could the 2.8 turbo be dropped in? :-/

For the diseaselists, how much effort would be needed to replace the 2.2dti with a 3.0 cdti v6? :-/

Might make an interesting alternative to the BMW lump ::)

I ask the questions as might be an easier upgrade than the V8 route, tempting though that is. :y

A few years ago, i was told by a traffic cop that the 3ltr cams have a slightly move agressive profile then the 3.2 cams  :-/

Aparently, he dropped them in his own 3.2 and gained a bit more grunt  :-/

Not according to MarkDTM.  ;)

Aren't the 2.6 and 3.2 camshafts line bored in the heads? Don't know if that would be a prob though.

Pretty sure all v6 heads are line bored for cams.Its ok as long as you keep the cam caps with the head, so Im told. :y

tigers_gonads wrote on 05. Apr 2011 at 13:50:

A few years ago, i was told by a traffic cop that the 3ltr cams have a slightly move agressive profile then the 3.2 cams  :-/ Aparently, he dropped them in his own 3.2 and gained a bit more grunt  :-/

Nah, the inlets are the key ones and they are the same  :y

Will these cams work in my 2.2?

wrote on 05. Apr 2011 at 20:27:

Will these cams work in my 2.2?

yes .. but might need a small modification .. easy enough with a hacksaw and file ..  :y :y :y

So I should get some of these and I can make them fit.

Are they easy to fit?

Entwood wrote on 05. Apr 2011 at 20:30:

wrote on 05. Apr 2011 at 20:27: Will these cams work in my 2.2? yes .. but might need a small modification .. easy enough with a hacksaw and file ..  :y :y :y

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

wrote on 05. Apr 2011 at 20:33:

So I should get some of these and I can make them fit. Are they easy to fit?

Anything is possible given time, tools and money ...... I have no idea how much of each you posess, or your level of engineering expertise.

:-/ :-/ :-/

Quote:

Posted by: Entwood      Posted on: Today at 20:39 Ray Tupper wrote Today at 20:33: So I should get some of these and I can make them fit. Are they easy to fit? Anything is possible given time, tools and money ...... I have no idea how much of each you posess, or your level of engineering expertise.   Posted by: Andy B      Posted on: Today at 20:37 Entwood wrote Today at 20:30: Ray Tupper wrote Today at 20:27: Will these cams work in my 2.2? yes .. but might need a small modification .. easy enough with a hacksaw and file ..           Posted by: Ray Tupper      Posted on: Today at 20:33 So I should get some of these and I can make them fit. Are they easy to fit? Posted by: Entwood      Posted on: Today at 20:30 Ray Tupper wrote Today at 20:27: Will these cams work in my 2.2? yes .. but might need a small modification .. easy enough with a hacksaw and file ..

pmsl.  ;D ;D ;D

A v6 would probably be a start :-/

Unless of course Ray is looking to downsize his desmond to a 1.0 Corsa lump to save fuel... ::)

Not sure that would work though. :-/ ;D ;D