My MOTer managed to squeeze it in today, as I'd forgotten to book it in. Opps.

Always a nice feeling to get an MOT :), though the Rover always just seems to be hassle free. 11yrs, 110k, nothing more than standard servicing (in fact the rear brakes have never been checked, due to my incompitence with drums  :-[, must take drums off this summer and check wear!).  Not sure I've ever changed fuel filter, so thats 7yrs old :o (it came with 3yrs free dealer servicing).

Keep checking the shocks, they still damp well, despite 110k.

It just keeps going on and on, best car I've ever owned. Also the longest I've ever owned, and possibly the one we've done the most miles in as well now...

Good news :y :y :y :y :y

I soooooooo want to make other comments but I won't.....


..... I mustn't........


.... Really shouldn't ::) ::) ::)

Lazydocker wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 20:58:

Good news :y :y :y :y :y I soooooooo want to make other comments but I won't..... ..... I mustn't........ .... Really shouldn't ::) ::) ::)

Go on.........Go on.........Go on...........you know you really want to  ::)

You didn't get it valeted before the test then. ;D ;D

MF wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:16:

Lazydocker wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 20:58: Good news :y :y :y :y :y I soooooooo want to make other comments but I won't..... ..... I mustn't........ .... Really shouldn't ::) ::) ::) Go on.........Go on.........Go on...........you know you really want to  ::)

I don't need encouraging thanks.... I normally manage to get myself in trouble easily enough ::) ::) ;D ;D

Now you have said all that TB you know what is going to happen ;)

Lazydocker wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 20:58:

Good news :y :y :y :y :y I soooooooo want to make other comments but I won't..... ..... I mustn't........ .... Really shouldn't ::) ::) ::)

CHICKEN :P :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

CaptainZok wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:18:

You didn't get it valeted before the test then. ;D ;D

Do you think we'll end up getting punished? Even though we haven't mentioned them? :-X :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D

Lazydocker wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:29:

CaptainZok wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:18: You didn't get it valeted before the test then. ;D ;D Do you think we'll end up getting punished? Even though we haven't mentioned them? :-X :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D

Mentioned what LF?

What engine do you have in the 25?

I personally love rovers. Had a fair few in different guises. Not had a 25, but i had a 400 bubble shape. basically the same thing.
The diesel was my favorite, but the k series 1.4, 1.6 and 1.8 engines have always been good to me too. Way ahead of their time on power to CC ratio.

i had 150k on a k series 1.4 no problems at all apart from an alternator, £10 down the scrappy lol.

CaptainZok wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:46:

Lazydocker wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:29: CaptainZok wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:18: You didn't get it valeted before the test then. ;D ;D Do you think we'll end up getting punished? Even though we haven't mentioned them? :-X :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D Mentioned what LF?

Something the Kosovans include with every wash/hoover :-X :P ::) :D

CaptainZok wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:46:

Lazydocker wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:29: CaptainZok wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:18: You didn't get it valeted before the test then. ;D ;D Do you think we'll end up getting punished? Even though we haven't mentioned them? :-X :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D Mentioned what LF?

He's at it again... :o :o :o lets hope we don't get dragged in to his silliness again.... :-X

Lazydocker wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:51:

CaptainZok wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:46: Lazydocker wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:29: CaptainZok wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:18: You didn't get it valeted before the test then. ;D ;D Do you think we'll end up getting punished? Even though we haven't mentioned them? :-X :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D Mentioned what LF? Something the Kosovans include with every wash/hoover :-X :P ::) :D

Free cup of tea? ;D

Vamps wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:51:

CaptainZok wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:46: Lazydocker wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:29: CaptainZok wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:18: You didn't get it valeted before the test then. ;D ;D Do you think we'll end up getting punished? Even though we haven't mentioned them? :-X :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D Mentioned what LF? He's at it again... :o :o :o lets hope we don't get dragged in to his silliness again.... :-X

Should have known you'd be along at the slightest hint of an *** *******er ::) ::) ::)

You have to love the simplicity of a rover. The k series engine is quite easy to work on too. Out of curiosity is it still on the original hesdgasket?

o-meg-a wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 21:47:

What engine do you have in the 25? I personally love rovers. Had a fair few in different guises. Not had a 25, but i had a 400 bubble shape. basically the same thing. The diesel was my favorite, but the k series 1.4, 1.6 and 1.8 engines have always been good to me too. Way ahead of their time on power to CC ratio. i had 150k on a k series 1.4 no problems at all apart from an alternator, £10 down the scrappy lol.

This one is a 1.6 K series.

Had a couple of 400 SLDi diesels back in the late 90s, decent in their day, though diesel technologu has moved on since.

Our 110k Rover still shows a clean pair of heals to bro's 1.6 Astra-H ;)

v6alex wrote on 23. Apr 2011 at 14:07:

Out of curiosity is it still on the original hesdgasket?

Don't be silly, its got 110k on the clock ;D

Like most K series HGFs, its unclear if the HGF was a sympton or a cause of water loss.  Was replaced at 72k

TheBoy wrote on 23. Apr 2011 at 23:01:

v6alex wrote on 23. Apr 2011 at 14:07: Out of curiosity is it still on the original hesdgasket? Don't be silly, its got 110k on the clock ;D Like most K series HGFs, its unclear if the HGF was a sympton or a cause of water loss.  Was replaced at 72k

And due again soon :-X ::)

Lazydocker wrote on 23. Apr 2011 at 23:08:

TheBoy wrote on 23. Apr 2011 at 23:01: v6alex wrote on 23. Apr 2011 at 14:07: Out of curiosity is it still on the original hesdgasket? Don't be silly, its got 110k on the clock ;D Like most K series HGFs, its unclear if the HGF was a sympton or a cause of water loss.  Was replaced at 72k And due again soon :-X ::)

Nah, she knows to regularly check the coolant level.

Problem was bad casting in the Alloy head, reducing water movement in vital waterways.

I've seen some comparison shots, and they are shocking.
I think they struggled ot get it under control for a long time.
Stronger headgasket helped, but i think that was a arsebackwards solution.

Ideally, head off, waterways drilled out and ported.
then new gasket.

o-meg-a wrote on 24. Apr 2011 at 00:10:

Problem was bad casting in the Alloy head, reducing water movement in vital waterways. I've seen some comparison shots, and they are shocking. I think they struggled ot get it under control for a long time. Stronger headgasket helped, but i think that was a arsebackwards solution. Ideally, head off, waterways drilled out and ported. then new gasket.

Problems with large amounts of head movement was cured fairly early on.

Obviously a small minorities of castings can be less than perfect, but the problem with the engine, when properly serviced, seem to be around 2 design issues - all alloy, and a chemical reaction that occurs just above the running temp (hence why it is essential not to overheat one), and the original design brief that it has to be at full running temp within 90s of driving, thus minimal water jacket, and associated small coolant capacity, so any issues with the coolant (small leaks, sticky stats, coolant contamination) quickly lead to bigger problems

I had to do the gasket on a friends rover 25. Had only done 45k  ::).  Do you know if your head gasket was replaced with the 'upgraded' mls one? If it has then should last alot longer :).

TheBoy wrote on 24. Apr 2011 at 09:08:

o-meg-a wrote on 24. Apr 2011 at 00:10: Problem was bad casting in the Alloy head, reducing water movement in vital waterways. I've seen some comparison shots, and they are shocking. I think they struggled ot get it under control for a long time. Stronger headgasket helped, but i think that was a arsebackwards solution. Ideally, head off, waterways drilled out and ported. then new gasket. Problems with large amounts of head movement was cured fairly early on. Obviously a small minorities of castings can be less than perfect, but the problem with the engine, when properly serviced, seem to be around 2 design issues - all alloy, and a chemical reaction that occurs just above the running temp (hence why it is essential not to overheat one), and the original design brief that it has to be at full running temp within 90s of driving, thus minimal water jacket, and associated small coolant capacity, so any issues with the coolant (small leaks, sticky stats, coolant contamination) quickly lead to bigger problems

Which make it a bit delicate, but usually OK if pampered.
And then they put it in cars that had always had cast iron OHV engines that were extremely tolerant of abuse. Metros for example. Just asking for trouble, which wasn't(still isn't in some case) long in coming. I've seen 3 badly overheated Rovers in the last month.

v6alex wrote on 24. Apr 2011 at 11:29:

I had to do the gasket on a friends rover 25. Had only done 45k  ::).  Do you know if your head gasket was replaced with the 'upgraded' mls one? If it has then should last alot longer :).

Nope, mine was done pre MLS one. If you put on the MLS one, you need to change the ladder rail as well.

Nick W wrote on 24. Apr 2011 at 11:52:

they put it in cars that had always had cast iron OHV engines that were extremely tolerant of abuse. Metros for example. Just asking for trouble, which wasn't(still isn't in some case) long in coming. I've seen 3 badly overheated Rovers in the last month.

That is not the engine, or indeed, the car's fault. That is the fault of the owners and the poor workmanship of the garages that maintain it.

TheBoy wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 11:18:

...the Rover always just seems to be hassle free. 11yrs, 110k, nothing more than standard servicing ...

I wouldn't class a head gasket change as standard servicing, not even on a K series!

Brikhead wrote on 24. Apr 2011 at 13:36:

TheBoy wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 11:18: ...the Rover always just seems to be hassle free. 11yrs, 110k, nothing more than standard servicing ... I wouldn't class a head gasket change as standard servicing, not even on a K series!

Guessing you've never had one then ;D

I put mine HGF down to driver misuse ::)

TheBoy wrote on 22. Apr 2011 at 11:18:

My MOTer managed to squeeze it in today, as I'd forgotten to book it in. Opps. Always a nice feeling to get an MOT :), though the Rover always just seems to be hassle free. 11yrs, 110k, nothing more than standard servicing (in fact the rear brakes have never been checked, due to my incompitence with drums  :-[, must take drums off this summer and check wear!).  Not sure I've ever changed fuel filter, so thats 7yrs old :o (it came with 3yrs free dealer servicing). Keep checking the shocks, they still damp well, despite 110k. It just keeps going on and on, best car I've ever owned. Also the longest I've ever owned, and possibly the one we've done the most miles in as well now...

Amazing !! You still have this.....that fuel filter may well be a swine to take off now if its been on soooo long.

If it aint broke  :D