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Message started by tidla on 02. Aug 2011 at 21:37

Title: oil filters
Post by tidla on 02. Aug 2011 at 21:37
opinions please. i know the omegas run hot but do they all come out looking like this.

the paper of the filter is actually brittle to the touch.




Title: Re: oil filters
Post by Radar on 02. Aug 2011 at 21:42
I would say that a gm one would not be anywhere near as bad as the one in the photo

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by Kevin Wood on 02. Aug 2011 at 23:10
Yes, looks like a particularly rubbish pattern part that has been in too long. It's a good job it didn't collapse completely and starve the engine of oil, although the bypass valve (and the fact it has no sealing ring around the base) might well have been saving the day there. Never seen a genuine GM filter come out out of shape like that.

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by tidla on 02. Aug 2011 at 23:15

Kevin Wood wrote on 02. Aug 2011 at 23:10:
Yes, looks like a particularly rubbish pattern part that has been in too long. It's a good job it didn't collapse completely and starve the engine of oil, although the bypass valve (and the fact it has no sealing ring around the base) might well have been saving the day there. Never seen a genuine GM filter come out out of shape like that.


7k to be exact :o

cost less for the genuine this time than than the smeg pattern.

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by Kevin Wood on 02. Aug 2011 at 23:17
You could knock me down with a feather.  ;D

If that had happened during a 20k main dealer service interval I could almost have believed it but in 7k? :o

Only one possibility. Shite quality part. I'm guessing the materials weren't up to the job. :(

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by iainb on 03. Aug 2011 at 18:21
The filter is AC Delco.

ACDelco is a global leader in automotive replacement parts and related services and offers quality aftermarket products for most makes and models, including General Motors, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota and Honda, plus many original equipment service replacement parts. ACDelco products can be found in more than 100 countries located on six of the seven continents and are sourced globally to meet the needs of the local markets, including “maintenance” parts commonly replaced during the lifetime of a vehicle (e.g., batteries, oil filters, air filters, wiper blades, shocks and brakes), as well as “repair” parts (e.g., alternators, radiators, chassis and heating/cooling components). ACDelco offers more than 80,000 parts across 37 product lines.

ACDelco has over 100 years of experience in the automotive industry and is a brand of GM Customer Care and Aftersales, a division of General Motors. ACDelco employs a two- or three-tiered distribution model, utilizing a network of appointed wholesale distributors to service independent installers, ACDelco independent service centers, retail and fleet customers...............

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by Kevin Wood on 03. Aug 2011 at 18:24
Agreed. Normally a reputable brand, but that filter hasn't  faired too well. :-/

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by Mantahatch on 03. Aug 2011 at 18:32
I don't want cast aspertions here but was it fitted properly ? it looks shorter than the new one and looks like it was crushed on fitting.

ACDelco are a very good company, I have no link to the company except the hundreds possibly thousands of there product I have fitted.

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by henryd on 03. Aug 2011 at 18:35

Mantahatch wrote on 03. Aug 2011 at 18:32:
I don't want cast aspertions here but was it fitted properly ? it looks shorter than the new one and looks like it was crushed on fitting.

ACDelco are a very good company, I have no link to the company except the hundreds possibly thousands of there product I have fitted.


I agree,does look possible :y

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by scimmy_man on 03. Aug 2011 at 19:08
Are you sure its a genuine AC delco?
loads of copys about these days.

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by Agemo on 03. Aug 2011 at 23:39
The font looks different to AC Delco somehow, looks dodgy to me.

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by Stallion on 06. Aug 2011 at 03:18

Mantahatch wrote on 03. Aug 2011 at 18:32:
I don't want cast aspertions here but was it fitted properly ? it looks shorter than the new one and looks like it was crushed on fitting.

ACDelco are a very good company, I have no link to the company except the hundreds possibly thousands of there product I have fitted.

il second that, doesnt really look like it could degrade in that form with use over time.. talking about oil filters how often are you expected to change them?

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by Albs on 06. Aug 2011 at 05:08
That looks in exactly the same state as the filter I took out of my breaker - the bottom end was seized solid.No obvious reason apart from very old oil and the crushed filter.

Stallion - oil & filter changes - opinion varies a bit but generally 3000 - 5000 miles.The secret to a sweet running,reliable,long lasting v6. :y

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by Lazydocker on 06. Aug 2011 at 07:02
The one you took out of mine looked a bit like that too Albs ;)

Stallion. Vx service interval is 20k :o :o Personally I prefer to stay under 5k, and that's with a LPG conversion so cleaner burn/less oil contamination

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by Essex Big Al on 06. Aug 2011 at 08:25
Saying it looks crushed.   Is it a possibility that  it is the wrong filter? 

I got a couple from VX recently, I asked for  2 for the miggy & 2 for SWMBO's 1.2 Corsa.

Filters look exactly the same except for the length. Part numbers also similar , only one digit different as I remember.

  I am thinking that maybe if the longer one  was used, it could have crushed as filter cap was screwed on .

Just a thought. :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by Albs on 06. Aug 2011 at 09:21

Lazydocker wrote on 06. Aug 2011 at 07:02:
The one you took out of mine looked a bit like that too Albs ;)Stallion. Vx service interval is 20k :o :o Personally I prefer to stay under 5k, and that's with a LPG conversion so cleaner burn/less oil contamination


Yep, it did.Looked like it had been in there quite a while too iirc.
Full VX service history I presume ? ::)

Title: Re: oil filters
Post by neilr on 08. Aug 2011 at 16:22
Both my 2.6's came out like that thought it was just mine. Genuine used in both. Now have GM in 1 and hengst in the other just to see if they do the same.

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