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Message started by Bob G on 24. Aug 2011 at 18:56

Title: New key fob
Post by Bob G on 24. Aug 2011 at 18:56
had to replace the key fob that came with car, does the new one need Tec2 programming? key is orginal with transponder and still works

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by RobG on 24. Aug 2011 at 18:58

Bob G wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 18:56:
had to replace the key fob that came with car, does the new one need Tec2 programming? key is orginal with transponder and still works

Just the casing, no. New internals in the fob, yes.

Bob, being a 2.0 you will need everything for cruise not just a stalk. Need to find a 2.0 CDX as a donor

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Bob G on 24. Aug 2011 at 19:43
Yes the internals were a black soggy mess so new internals

I thought that as it is a facelift it would not need anything else, it does not have a throttle cable as illustrated in the how to section so assumed that all was well, obviously not  :( what else is needed)
Guess key will be a Newent job then I hope

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by RobG on 24. Aug 2011 at 19:47
Cruise motor with bowden cable, bracket on throttle body for the cable and ideally the mounting bracket for the cruise motor. You will only get this from a 2.0 CDX spec

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by TheBoy on 24. Aug 2011 at 20:20

Bob G wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 19:43:
Yes the internals were a black soggy mess so new internals

I thought that as it is a facelift it would not need anything else, it does not have a throttle cable as illustrated in the how to section so assumed that all was well, obviously not  :( what else is needed)
Guess key will be a Newent job then I hope

You sure no throttle cable?

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by TheBoy on 24. Aug 2011 at 20:23
The gallery pics, at a glance, look like 2.2  :-/

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Bob G on 24. Aug 2011 at 20:27

TheBoy wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 20:20:

Bob G wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 19:43:
Yes the internals were a black soggy mess so new internals

I thought that as it is a facelift it would not need anything else, it does not have a throttle cable as illustrated in the how to section so assumed that all was well, obviously not  :( what else is needed)
Guess key will be a Newent job then I hope

You sure no throttle cable?


Well two of us searched in vain today and can find nothing, assuming that we are looking in correct location, left of engine as you view from front, other person looking is ex AA and does know his stuff but we are prepared to be wrong :D

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Andy B on 24. Aug 2011 at 20:27

TheBoy wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 20:20:

Bob G wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 19:43:
Yes the internals were a black soggy mess so new internals

I thought that as it is a facelift it would not need anything else, it does not have a throttle cable as illustrated in the how to section so assumed that all was well, obviously not  :( what else is needed)
Guess key will be a Newent job then I hope

You sure no throttle cable?


That confused me too. If his car has no throttle cable, where would the bowden cable of a cruise control kit fit?  :-?

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Jimbob on 24. Aug 2011 at 20:27

TheBoy wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 20:23:
The gallery pics, at a glance, look like 2.2  :-/


agreed - no flame trap as per 2.0  :-/

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Jimbob on 24. Aug 2011 at 20:29
ok...

why do you think its a 2.0?

pm me your reg please, Ill check what it should be  :y

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by RobG on 24. Aug 2011 at 21:02
2.0ltr. Look at OP`s engine pic in gallery

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Jimbob on 24. Aug 2011 at 21:02
Well just checked, and this left VX with a 2 Litre.

X20XEV serial number 31105679


who knows whats happened since then  though

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Bob G on 24. Aug 2011 at 21:06
pic of my engine in the gallery, i think that best way forward is to wait till newent and then let those in the know look, but i am blowed if i can see a throttle cable.  :o

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by RobG on 24. Aug 2011 at 21:14
It emerges from the bulkhead, you won`t see it at the throttle body unless you remove the air intake pipe (big black fat one on top of TB)

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Bob G on 24. Aug 2011 at 21:17
ok Rob wil try that tommorow.

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Bob G on 24. Aug 2011 at 22:12

TheBoy wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 20:23:
The gallery pics, at a glance, look like 2.2  :-/

You mean my gallery pics :o
will check the engine number in the morning that should solve something

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by TheBoy on 24. Aug 2011 at 22:22

Bob G wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 22:12:

TheBoy wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 20:23:
The gallery pics, at a glance, look like 2.2  :-/

You mean my gallery pics :o
will check the engine number in the morning that should solve something

It is difficult to tell them (2.0 and 2.2) apart, and the resolution isn't high enough to zoom in enough

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Bob G on 24. Aug 2011 at 22:38

TheBoy wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 22:22:

Bob G wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 22:12:

TheBoy wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 20:23:
The gallery pics, at a glance, look like 2.2  :-/

You mean my gallery pics :o
will check the engine number in the morning that should solve something

It is difficult to tell them (2.0 and 2.2) apart, and the resolution isn't high enough to zoom in enough



Did not realise that, pics were 12mill pixels, if it has had an engine swop then suppose I could have problems as it seesms no one told DVLA, just what I need. Ho hum what fun, and I thought owning a cossie scorpio was fun. ;D

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Andy B on 24. Aug 2011 at 22:40

TheBoy wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 22:22:
....
It is difficult to tell them (2.0 and 2.2) apart, and the resolution isn't high enough to zoom in enough


Doesn't the 2.0 use a DIS pack & HT leads while a 2.2 use a coil pack directly onto the plugs? :-/ :-/ :-/

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by RobG on 24. Aug 2011 at 23:02

Andy B wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 22:40:

TheBoy wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 22:22:
....
It is difficult to tell them (2.0 and 2.2) apart, and the resolution isn't high enough to zoom in enough


Doesn't the 2.0 use a DIS pack & HT leads while a 2.2 use a coil pack directly onto the plugs? :-/ :-/ :-/

Yep

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Martin Imber on 24. Aug 2011 at 23:47

Bob G wrote on 24. Aug 2011 at 19:43:
Yes the internals were a black soggy mess so new internals

I thought that as it is a facelift it would not need anything else, it does not have a throttle cable as illustrated in the how to section so assumed that all was well, obviously not  :( what else is needed)
Guess key will be a Newent job then I hope



Can be repaired.

Remove switches

Clean with meths

Fit new switches

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Bob G on 25. Aug 2011 at 08:57
Martin appreciate that but the board was so badly dmaged by whatever had melted, new internals were by far easier.
It had made parts very fragile so gave up :)

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Bob G on 25. Aug 2011 at 09:01
Ok carrying on from last night I confirm it is the engine that should be there, it has HT leads at the rear and although time is short I think I have found the linkage, as said it is well hidden.

Now we have confirmed that and I know what parts to obtain is the job still very much as per the insructios as posted except modify for 2L?

Sorry to have caued so many posts but I was totally convinced it was fully servo served, but always prepared to be proved wrong if it helps, thanks for you patience and do hope to see some of you at Newent, now if anyone going happend to have above spares ;D

Title: Re: New key fob
Post by Jimbob on 25. Aug 2011 at 09:04
If it helps...I think A vectra cruise setup also fits

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