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Seized bolts etc , manifold studs !
25. Jul 2006 at 17:23

Afternoon !

OK i want to share some information with my dear friends on the Omega forum !

I have seen many postings in the past referring to seized manifoild studs/nuts, front wishbone bolts being rusted to buggery etc etc !

OK i have been searching high and low for an answer to these little problems and have come up with something quite fantastic !

Ambersil make a product called " Rust Flash" , its a VERY high quality penetrating oil coupled with a freezing agent ! Its works by litterally shocking the rust to fracture at -40C and when these little fractures occur the pnetrating oil seeps in under capilery action, the action is INSTANT so NO STANDING AROUND !

I have tried it on a few VERY seized and rusty nuts/bolts and a few manifold studs/nuts. It works perfectly !!!
A word of warning though, as with most studs, and twisting action ( side to side) movement of the spanner /socket is likely to start the stud fracturing /breaking , so bear that in mind !

This product is the dogs pink bits and i'm very immpressed indeed !

The price for a 500ml can is around £3 to £6 depending on where you can buy it ! Most Engineers Factors will sell it, but usually only in box's of 12 cans !

It can be brought on the internet, but postage can be as much or more than the value of the product its self !

If you can get hold of a can, try it, i'm 100% sure you will be gob smacked !!!

Remember - AMBERSIL RUST FLASH is what your looking for !

Anyone who has had any dealings with this stuff already , i'd love to see some feed back on it please !

Cheers

Mark

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JasonH Senior Member Offline Posts: 953 Bristol Gender:	Re: Seized bolts etc , manifold studs ! Reply #1 - 25. Jul 2006 at 18:07 Thanks, I shall be getting some.
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mar892ree Junior Member Offline if it dont undo, hit it wiv an hammer Posts: 244 Northampton Gender:	Re: Seized bolts etc , manifold studs ! Reply #2 - 25. Jul 2006 at 18:16 OK mate, love to know what you think, when you get some, i was VERY immpressed As with anything, i'm sure theres a limitation, but i have tried it on bolts rusted with sea/salt water and it did the job ! Mark
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Re: Seized bolts etc , manifold studs !
Reply #3 - 25. Jul 2006 at 18:18

funy that i am currently in negotiations with a front wishbone that wont come off a rover

tried sockets
tried spanners
tried penetrating fluid
tried locktite freeze and release
tried plus gas

no joy - going to try and burn the £$%^& tonight and if not i will try

AMBERSIL RUST FLASH

got to say i reckon it will work as loctite freeze and release has always worked for me in a similar situation ( apart from the current one) and it works in the same way of freezing the nuts off Grin

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mar892ree Junior Member Offline if it dont undo, hit it wiv an hammer Posts: 244 Northampton Gender:	Re: Seized bolts etc , manifold studs ! Reply #4 - 25. Jul 2006 at 18:25 Well bugger me, i didnt know Loctite had a product on the market already !!!! Anyhow good luck with the wishbone bolt, personally if it pi***ed me off that much by not coming undone, i'd grind the nut off with a cutting disk !!!!! Mark
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Reply #5 - 25. Jul 2006 at 18:27

mar892ree wrote on 25. Jul 2006 at 18:25:

Well bugger me, i didnt know Loctite had a product on the market already !!!!

Anyhow good luck with the wishbone bolt, personally if it pi***ed me off that much by not coming undone, i'd grind the nut off with a cutting disk !!!!! Grin

Mark

dont think it freezes to ambersil temp though......and i had to search for the loctite stuff - its all in german so not your everyday halfords stuff Grin

you goty alink to that rust flash stuff by ambersil mate Wink

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mar892ree Junior Member Offline if it dont undo, hit it wiv an hammer Posts: 244 Northampton Gender:	Re: Seized bolts etc , manifold studs ! Reply #6 - 25. Jul 2006 at 20:47 If you want to find it on the net, just type in Ambersil rust flash into a search engine like Google, and you will get multiple options ! Mark
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Marks DTM Calib Administrator Offline Ex Member Posts: 25671 Northern Hemisphere Gender: Drives: Astra J, Mum Bus, Dexta Tractor, 108 DMU wip	Re: Seized bolts etc , manifold studs ! Reply #7 - 26. Jul 2006 at 08:48 Top tip, will give it a try.....
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Reply #8 - 26. Jul 2006 at 18:49

I managed to pick up some of the loctite stuff from a local motor factors, it's called "freeze & release" (and has something in german below that - along the lines of fast rust remover ice?). Has a "cat no. 39160" printed at the bottom, and claims to freeze to -43 degrees C ... sounds like it's the same sort of stuff ...

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Reply #9 - 26. Jul 2006 at 19:17

sounds2k wrote on 26. Jul 2006 at 18:49:

I managed to pick up some of the loctite stuff from a local motor factors, it's called "freeze & release" (and has something in german below that - along the lines of fast rust remover ice?). Has a "cat no. 39160" printed at the bottom, and claims to freeze to -43 degrees C ... sounds like it's the same sort of stuff ...

thats the stuff - can i ask how much you paid - as i have to mail order it......have you used it yet, its pretty good but not perfect.

Oh and dont get your fingers in the way Grin

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sounds2k Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1046 Queenborough, Kent	Re: Seized bolts etc , manifold studs ! Reply #10 - 27. Jul 2006 at 00:28 not cheap ... £7.18 inc. VAT for a 400ml aerosol ... then again I pay cash over the counter at the motor factors, but most places I looked for that "rust flash" stuff wanted about that much for delivery alone!! Not tried it yet, bought to use (if needed) on the handbrake cable adjuster which needs tending to ...
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iggy21uk Omega Knight Offline Omega Spotter - tats gone tanning Posts: 1148 Berkhamsted - Herts Gender: Drives: Omega 2.5 Elite 1999	Re: Seized bolts etc , manifold studs ! Reply #11 - 27. Jul 2006 at 08:52 From here £4.18 inc Vat . Dont think trade only? http://www.cromwell.co.uk Seen it cheaper but I'm not near Southampton Del min £6.50
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Salty Ex Member	Re: Seized bolts etc , manifold studs ! Reply #12 - 27. Jul 2006 at 09:04 This stuff sounds worth a try, I will be getting some
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Marks DTM Calib Administrator Offline Ex Member Posts: 25671 Northern Hemisphere Gender: Drives: Astra J, Mum Bus, Dexta Tractor, 108 DMU wip	Re: Seized bolts etc , manifold studs ! Reply #13 - 27. Jul 2006 at 09:59 Thats handy, cromwell tools are only a 10 minute walk away from work.
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Markie Omega Lord Offline Posts: 7914 Lanarkshire, Scotland Gender: Drives: RS4, X5, Range Rover	Re: Seized bolts etc , manifold studs ! Reply #14 - 27. Jul 2006 at 10:23 thought i have a good deal then from my supplier at around £7 delivered its good stuff though and i am going to need it again as i have a full exhaust to remove from a rover this weekend. Off at the manifold already but.....i suspect i will comea cropper somewhere
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