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Reply #15 - 10. Aug 2006 at 20:54
 
And standing back from it all, looking at how Bruce told the story, it was amusing.  Wink
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Reply #16 - 10. Aug 2006 at 20:59
 
Kev wrote on 10. Aug 2006 at 20:54:
And standing back from it all, looking at how Bruce told the story, it was amusing.  Wink



A different take on it I suppose  Wink
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Reply #17 - 10. Aug 2006 at 21:05
 
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He did not get a lecture.  I am more professional than that.  I either give a bollocking or a booking, not both.  You chose what you would prefer.

Looks like we are going to be on either side of no mans land over this.

The tale referred to is meant to be light hearted and an amusing pastiche on what actually happened.  If this flies over your head, or if you take umbrage at it, so be it.  I refer you to the comments about verbal guns blazing and talking yourself into a booking.  I actually liked the Dagenam Dustbin and owned a few.......

Not all cops operate out of the Kremlin school of traffic policing.  Some do have a (warped?) sense of humour, some do prefer to educate rather than book, and some have seen too many accidents and death over the years and simply dish out points and prizes rather than continue to educate.  I dont normally throw the death and misery aspect down peoples throats.  Most know simply that death and misery happen.  Speed, innapropriate or otherwise, is just one small facet of this.  Drink, drugs, road and vehicle maintenance, road conditions, inexperience etc etc also play a substantial part.   If you have been agrieved by traffic officers actions over the years, so be it.  I am glad that we are not all made the same.

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Reply #18 - 10. Aug 2006 at 21:07
 
I wonder how any of us would be in that situation if we were the law?

I know I would love to be a traffic cop from time to time.

It can't be easy listening to all the excuses you've heard time and time before.  Trying to remain calm when you know the offender is clearly lying through his teeth etc.

Recently, I whizzed passed a patrol car which was joining the dual carrirageway.  He finally caught me miles up the road and was upset that he couldn't catch me in his diesel escort.  A few civil words later and I was on my way feeling very lucky.

Blow me down, the very next day, like an idiot, I did the same thing and unbelieveably another cruiser was joining as before.  This time I was very quickly caught by one of the larger Vauxhall products!

The first thing I was asked was "Are you in the job?".  I guess I must look like an officer of the Law!

I said "No, but I'm begining to wish I was".  A few civil words later and I was on my way!!!!

Stopped twice in two days and both times got away with it.

They're not all bad!
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Reply #19 - 11. Aug 2006 at 07:06
 
hotel21 wrote on 10. Aug 2006 at 21:05:
Andy B

Looks like we are going to be on either side of no mans land over this..

Probably. We often hear & see tales where the one rule for us and another rule for you is used.

hotel21 wrote on 10. Aug 2006 at 21:05:
The tale referred to is meant to be light hearted and an amusing pastiche on what actually happened.  If this flies over your head, or if you take umbrage at it, so be it.  I refer you to the comments about verbal guns blazing and talking yourself into a booking.

On the contrary! I always adopt the Yes Oficer No Oficer approach!  Shocked  


hotel21 wrote on 10. Aug 2006 at 21:05:
Speed, innapropriate or otherwise, is just one small facet of this.  Drink, drugs, road and vehicle maintenance, road conditions, inexperience etc etc also play a substantial part.  

Does this also apply if you're a Traffic Cop and want to get aquainted with your car on the Public Highway at 160mph. refer to 1st answer.


hotel21 wrote on 10. Aug 2006 at 21:05:
If you have been agrieved by traffic officers actions over the years, so be it.  I am glad that we are not all made the same.

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I wouldn't say agrieved - just pi$$ed off. TV programmes like Traffic Cop just serve to reiterate the "Holier than thou" attitude of most of them.
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Reply #20 - 11. Aug 2006 at 08:25
 
The Engineer that told me this swears it truly happened.........

Working for a forklift company we have about 40 mobile engineers
one of them who will remane nameless was driving along the M62 eating his lunch and doing about 80

when in his door mirror he spots the dreaded blue lights ......So he pulls over .........
Mr plod walks up the side of the van opens the door and says "what do think your on"
quick as a flash our guy says....cheese an tomato do you want one!!!!!!!!!!!!

didnt work though he still got a ticket
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Reply #21 - 11. Aug 2006 at 09:31
 
I think the recent court case of the copper caught doing 150mph+ claiming he had to get used to the car are a very, very tiny minority, yet picked up by the tabloid press. Obviously his collegues thought he was wrong and booked him....

I can only go by my own experience, and I've found the traffic plod to be pleasant and reasonable every time I've been pulled - even if the "Morning Mr Mansell" type jokes are a little tiresome sometimes...

Also, my GTE days aside, every time I've been pulled, it has always been because I was doing something wrong...
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Reply #22 - 11. Aug 2006 at 11:57
 
Bruce,

I am not in any way saying that you are guilty of this, so please don't take offence. I'm just sticking in my 2p's worth, but........

What sticks in my throat is when law makers and enforcers blatantly and willfully break laws. That shouts hypocrite at me. Don't get me wrong, I'm of the, 'Rules are for the guidance of the wise and the blind obedience of the foolish', school of thought and as long as you're not harming or inconveniencing anyone else then I think 'rules' are fair game, but when I get busted for doing only 83 MPH on a non congested three lane motorway in perfect driving conditions and then I'm witness to hypocritical behaviour by the same organisation(s) that have penalised me, it's bound to have a detrimental effect on the level of respect I have for the authorities.

Now I appreciate that the Police have an arduous job at times and are only human after all, but on more occassions than I care to remember, I've seen police vehicles driving irresponsibly particulalrly on motorways. I'm talking speeding for no good reason, (I know emergency vehicles are exempt from speed limits, but when there's no need then they should practice what they preach IMO!), horrendous lane discipline and tailgating to name a few.

If your job is to uphold the law then you should damned well stick to it!!

I do exceed the speed limit from time to time but only where it's safe to do so. My ex-police driving instructor, (Bloke by the name of Scott if memory serves correctly, maybe you know him.), actually promoted exceeding the posted limit on appropriate occassions. That criteria is never taken into account. It's always cut and dried. You were speeding therefore you're a criminal. Recieving a 'bollocking probably infuriates me more than getting a ticket and again doesn't instill any greater respect due to the fact that I know a number of Policemen & women and the tales I have relayed back from them about their antics, (on and off the job!), contradicts their assumed authoritative position.

And don't get me started on (s)cameras!!!!
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Reply #23 - 11. Aug 2006 at 12:13
 
i dunno im no fan of the authoritys but thats nothing to to with the actual people inforcing them just the whole notion that we need to be told what to do, i thought it was a well told funny story, sometimes a good bollickin is what we need to see the bigger picture from what ive heard broocie certainly sounds like the kind of cop i would like to come accross, in my misspent youth i came upon quite a few over nothing more serious than what the dutch have already seen the light to accept, and no im not a lady of the night. the thing is tho hypocritical behaviour from any institution not just the law is bound to enrage as its the biggest disrespect you can have leveled at you. but speeding on motorways if left completely un checked will breed a total lack of respect for the speed limits but in the case of less than 90 in good conditions should not be subject to fines and points but a long chat to reinforce the point that if you speed you will be pulled over and end up getting there later than sticking to the limit.
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Reply #24 - 11. Aug 2006 at 12:22
 
I always thought that emergency vehicles were NOT exempt from speed limits, the exception being Traffic, and only with good reason i.e. pursuit etc.

They are however exempt from red lights etc. but you must have your blues and siren on.

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Reply #25 - 11. Aug 2006 at 12:55
 
thats certainly the case over here because when penalty points came in there was uproar that ambulance drivers would get points on their licence by going past speed cameras on emergency calls
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Reply #26 - 11. Aug 2006 at 16:37
 
i, like most people have been stopeed a few times, and more often than not i was doing something wrong.....

I went through a stage of getting pulled on a nightly basis, reason, my number plates were illegal, eventually i got bored of the constant telling off and changed the, only to be pulled again and again, this time for not wearing a seatbelt, however i was wearing a 4 point harness, the police behind couldn't see it though, again after a while they got wise to this fact and left me alone.

Now i am a little wiser, yes i still speed, yes i have 3 points, and yes it stung when i got caught, but there is no point in trying to dodge something that i was guilty of. After i got back in the car my wife said ' i would have given them hell if that was me' why, just to feel better? It's not worth it.

Again i have met some police who will pull you over, have a 'word' and let you on your way, i have a lot of respect for people who are prepared to use their judgement.

There is an age old saying of 'why aren't you out catching muggers and murderers' and there is a lot of resentment about speed cameras and the points system, at the end of the day if you break the rules and get caught then you have to expect a punishment no matter how small your crime was
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Reply #27 - 11. Aug 2006 at 17:17
 
When I had my Carlton 3ltr 24v Gsi (one of the first off the production line) I was pulled over by the police in Bristol.

I glanced at the speedo, 38 in a 40, phew Huh

They had a good look round the car, then came over to me and asked if they could 'have a go' in it, as it was quicker than anything they had got.

I declined..... Grin

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Reply #28 - 11. Aug 2006 at 17:56
 
Andy B wrote on 11. Aug 2006 at 07:06:
...TV programmes like Traffic Cop just serve to reiterate the "Holier than thou" attitude of most of them.

the trouble is that if all you saw was people being pulled over, bollocked then let off it wouldn't make for good TV ratings ... same as big brother and all the rest of that type of program, only the "interesting" bits make the final cut ... and I'd imagine probably over 90% of the traffic patrol work is probably just cruising along and boring as hell !!

TV gives a distorted view ... like any media, it shows you what the makers want you to see ...

Kev wrote on 11. Aug 2006 at 12:22:
I always thought that emergency vehicles are exempt from red lights etc. but you must have your blues and siren on.

if they are running B&2 then a red light and similar becomes "give way" - if they go through a red light and cause an accident then it's deemed their fault.
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Reply #29 - 11. Aug 2006 at 19:16
 
I dont do a lot of motorway driving...so I haven't seen a traffic cop for about three years Cheesy
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