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STMO123 Ex Member Gender:	Re: Classic Cars Reply #15 - 17. Aug 2006 at 22:02 Auto Addict wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 21:58: STMO123 wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 21:55: Another question(I'm full of them). No you're not, you're just trying to get you're post count up. Still a long way to go to catch you I'll be the first person to get to omega expert without ever actually ANSWERING a question
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Re: Classic Cars
Reply #16 - 17. Aug 2006 at 22:22

STMO123 wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 22:02:

Auto Addict wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 21:58:

STMO123 wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 21:55:

Another question(I'm full of them).

No you're not, you're just trying to get you're post count up. Grin

Still a long way to go to catch you Grin

I'll be the first person to get to omega expert without ever actually ANSWERING a question Grin

Eat my dust. Highest post count for a non-admin Wink

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Re: Classic Cars
Reply #17 - 17. Aug 2006 at 22:24

tunnie wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 22:22:

STMO123 wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 22:02:

Auto Addict wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 21:58:

STMO123 wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 21:55:

Another question(I'm full of them).

No you're not, you're just trying to get you're post count up. Grin

Still a long way to go to catch you Grin

I'll be the first person to get to omega expert without ever actually ANSWERING a question Grin

Eat my dust. Highest post count for a non-admin Wink

In 12 months time, tunnie, we'll be reading 'First man to reach 1,000,000 posts on a forum' Smiley

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Reply #18 - 17. Aug 2006 at 22:35

Hello,

A car becomes a classic in one of the following ways.

1 - Being a fast, small/medium ford. Escort Mexico/BDA twin cam -> Escort RS2000 -> Escort RS1600i/RS Turbo -> Escort Cosworth -> Focus RS -> Focus ST

2 - Capturing public imagination for the right/wrong reasons. Lotus Carlton -> Monaro

3 - A once common car becoming rare and evoking nostalgia Cortina -> Sierra

4 - Being a Jaguar (they get better with age)

5 - Being British and idiosyncratic, with the potential to be an offbeat classic Any 70's BL product , first Rover 825i/Sterling , Rover 75, MG ZT, esp 260.

Oddly, cars which are well respected when new, seem to fall from grace all too quickly. Look at how the E36 Bimmer has gone from middle management status, to council estate king pin in only a few years. The same is beginning to happen with the E46. The E23 seven is nowhere to be seen, the E32 has no classic status to speak off, only the 6 series and M series cars have any real classic cache.

Yes, I would like an Omega once it acheives that once common, none left classic appeal.

James

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mr des Junior Member Offline Doh Posts: 194 limerick, ireland Gender: Drives: 2.0	Re: Classic Cars Reply #19 - 17. Aug 2006 at 22:49 classic status is only age related for tax purposes, as for your opinion of what is a classic its just that an opinion
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Reply #20 - 18. Aug 2006 at 07:16

TheBoy wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 21:59:

I think that rule about 25yrs was in 2002 when they last changed the rules, so I think its pre 1977 doesn't need tax...

A car gets 'historic' road tax if it was built before 1 Jan 73. The original rules said that as cars got to 25 yrs old they would qualify but the shower of reprobates that were voted into power in 97 soon put a stop to that. Angry

You still need to display a current valid disc though - you just get them for f cuk all!

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Reply #21 - 18. Aug 2006 at 07:26

Andy B wrote on 18. Aug 2006 at 07:16:

TheBoy wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 21:59:

I think that rule about 25yrs was in 2002 when they last changed the rules, so I think its pre 1977 doesn't need tax...

A car gets 'historic' road tax if it was built before 1 Jan 73. The original rules said that as cars got to 25 yrs old they would qualify but the shower of reprobates that were voted into power in 97 soon put a stop to that. Angry

You still need to display a current valid disc though - you just get them for f cuk all!

The Tax Disc says Historic Vehicle on it and to cost is Zero.
You have to display the tax disc as you have to supply insurance and mot to get it.

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Reply #22 - 18. Aug 2006 at 08:17

Andy B wrote on 18. Aug 2006 at 07:16:

TheBoy wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 21:59:

I think that rule about 25yrs was in 2002 when they last changed the rules, so I think its pre 1977 doesn't need tax...

A car gets 'historic' road tax if it was built before 1 Jan 73. The original rules said that as cars got to 25 yrs old they would qualify but the shower of reprobates that were voted into power in 97 soon put a stop to that. Angry

You still need to display a current valid disc though - you just get them for f cuk all!

So,basically, there will be no more free tax discs.(Unless you unearth old auntie Edna's Rolls in her garage)

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Reply #23 - 18. Aug 2006 at 10:22

When i was looking for a tax exempt vehicle to run the dvla said that the cut off point was 1971, ie any vehicle made upto Dec '71 would be classed as "Historic" and would not require any licence fee paying. As far as I'm aware this is still the case. I know of a couple of people who have bought '72/'74 cars and have had to pay a fee. So I went out and got a '71 Beetle. It's a great feeling when you go and get you tax disc, and they don't take any money off you.

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vectrolosys Junior Member Offline Posts: 130 Bristol, UK Gender: Drives: 88 XJ40 3.6 96 2.0CD	Re: Classic Cars Reply #24 - 18. Aug 2006 at 12:29 mr des wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 22:49: classic status is only age related for tax purposes, as for your opinion of what is a classic its just that an opinion Never said it was any more than that, an opinion .
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Salty Ex Member	Re: Classic Cars Reply #25 - 18. Aug 2006 at 12:30 RolandL wrote on 18. Aug 2006 at 10:22: It's a great feeling when you go and get you tax disc, and they don't take any money off you. I bet it is, I got close with with my MK1 RS2000 but missed by about 8 months
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Auto Addict Administrator Offline OOF's Elder Statesman Posts: 10091 North Birmingham Gender: Drives: 2.6 CDX	Re: Classic Cars Reply #26 - 18. Aug 2006 at 18:09 The big question is.....will this web site still be around...because it surely will be needed. Just a thought, will RMB have more classics than tunnie?
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Reply #27 - 18. Aug 2006 at 20:09

TheBoy wrote on 17. Aug 2006 at 21:59:

I think that rule about 25yrs was in 2002 when they last changed the rules, so I think its pre 1977 doesn't need tax...

dont mean to sound like a know it all but i an sure a build date of pre aug 1973 is the cut off date for tax free classic it was changed in 2002 from a car reaching a proven 25 yrs old

i wonder how many omega will be around in 12 more years Undecided

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Reply #28 - 18. Aug 2006 at 22:02

("As part of the Chancellor's recent ? Budget, exemption from Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) for vehicles over 25 years of age will be replaced by exemption for vehicles constructed before 1st January 1973.
This replaces the 25 year rolling exemption date. Unless there is another law change, those of you with 1973 cars will always have to pay Road Fund Tax.")

I'm going to be like one of them Chinese Emperors' , I'll be buried with my chariot Grin

ps that's a quote off a classic car site, I was slightly out

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Reply #29 - 19. Aug 2006 at 00:04

nigsey1600e wrote on 18. Aug 2006 at 20:09:

.....

dont mean to sound like a know it all but i an sure a build date of pre aug 1973 is the cut off date for tax free classic it was changed in 2002 from a car reaching a proven 25 yrs old

i wonder how many omega will be around in 12 more years Undecided

Non probably. But it'll be irelevant (sp?) cos your car needs to have been built before 01/01/1973 to qualify for free/historic road tax.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/TaxationClasses/TaxationClasses...

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