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JamesV6CDX Ex Member Gender: Drives: 2002 (02) 3.2 Retail MV6 in Star Silver with Leather	Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega? 09. Jan 2007 at 15:29 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TECH2-Diagnostics-KIT-for-Vauxhall-Opel-UK-Seller_W0QQitem...
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Jimbob Global Moderator Admin Team Offline Third nipple removal completed succesfuly Posts: 20462 Chester / Flintshire Gender: Drives: 52 3.2 MV6 Estate & 98 3.0 MV6 Manual Estate	Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega? Reply #1 - 09. Jan 2007 at 15:36 Think thats the one, ordered one (a bit cheaper) myself : 160049536957
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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega? Reply #2 - 09. Jan 2007 at 16:08 yep will work, although the software is not very good apparently. You also need a real com port, a USB to COM adapter won't work...
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JamesV6CDX Ex Member Gender: Drives: 2002 (02) 3.2 Retail MV6 in Star Silver with Leather	Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega? Reply #3 - 09. Jan 2007 at 17:25 It says on the listing, 1997 onwards only?
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Auto Addict Administrator Offline OOF's Elder Statesman Posts: 10091 North Birmingham Gender: Drives: 2.6 CDX	Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega? Reply #4 - 09. Jan 2007 at 17:30 JamesV6CDX wrote on 09. Jan 2007 at 17:25: It says on the listing, 1997 onwards only? I have a Scantool, which works on mine (engine only), but did not work on my mates 1998 estate as it is not OBDII complient.
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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega? Reply #5 - 09. Jan 2007 at 17:31 JamesV6CDX wrote on 09. Jan 2007 at 17:25: It says on the listing, 1997 onwards only? So it does, not iic nothing happens in '97 to Omegas. '98 was the mini facelift... PM The Boy to double check...
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Auto Addict Administrator Offline OOF's Elder Statesman Posts: 10091 North Birmingham Gender: Drives: 2.6 CDX	Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega? Reply #6 - 09. Jan 2007 at 17:34 Don't think it will work on yours James, but I could be wrong. I take it, you can do a paperclip test on yours?
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rpont Intermediate Member Offline Posts: 272 Tadcaster Gender: Drives: 97 2.5v6 CD Auto	Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega? Reply #7 - 09. Jan 2007 at 19:34 Wasn't there a change to the electrics about 1996? The Haynes manual has two sets of wiring diagrams for ealrier and later circuits. My 1997 one is the later with the seperate radio blipper while the earlier ones had an IR remote as part of the key.
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Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega?
Reply #8 - 09. Jan 2007 at 21:04

tunnie wrote on 09. Jan 2007 at 17:31:

JamesV6CDX wrote on 09. Jan 2007 at 17:25:

It says on the listing, 1997 onwards only?

So it does, not iic nothing happens in '97 to Omegas. '98 was the mini facelift...

PM The Boy to double check...

I'd second Tunnies advice - TB has had dealings with these devices and will have an opinion. My car is listed and I bought one - it didn't work - sent it back & guy sent a USB version - it didn't work either - so I found a real Tech2 at Vx and slipped the mechanic a few quid to read/reset for me. But seller claimed it was the car not the device but gave full refund anyway. FYI I paid £40+

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Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega?
Reply #9 - 09. Jan 2007 at 21:29

OK, tiny bit of history.

GM used to use a handheld device called a Tech1. Good little device, but was struggling to cope with the expanded range of systems on newer cars. When the Omega came out, it had so made onboard systems, the Tech1 needed its own dedicated software cartridge (as well as a multiplexer).

So, in 1997, GM moved over to Tech2 device, a much more capable piece of hardware.

So, in general, a GM Tech1 needed for pre 97 cars (including pre 97 Omegas), and a Tech2 for post 97 cars.

However, as Tunnie rightly pointed out, there were no significant differences between 96 and 97 Omegas, so often a Tech2 can read some systems on a pre 97 car, as long as that same ECU existed on post 97 cars, and a Tech1 can read some parts of a post 97 car, as long as ecu existed on older cars.

The cheapo Tech2 software may or may not reconise the pre 97 ECUs if they did not exist post 97, or if the software/firmware version the ECU is running didn't exist post 97. Knowing the flakey cheapo Tech2 software, it may not read it anyway...

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Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega?
Reply #10 - 09. Jan 2007 at 22:06

TheBoy wrote on 09. Jan 2007 at 21:29:

OK, tiny bit of history.

GM used to use a handheld device called a Tech1. Good little device, but was struggling to cope with the expanded range of systems on newer cars. When the Omega came out, it had so made onboard systems, the Tech1 needed its own dedicated software cartridge (as well as a multiplexer).

So, in 1997, GM moved over to Tech2 device, a much more capable piece of hardware.

So, in general, a GM Tech1 needed for pre 97 cars (including pre 97 Omegas), and a Tech2 for post 97 cars.

However, as Tunnie rightly pointed out, there were no significant differences between 96 and 97 Omegas, so often a Tech2 can read some systems on a pre 97 car, as long as that same ECU existed on post 97 cars, and a Tech1 can read some parts of a post 97 car, as long as ecu existed on older cars.

The cheapo Tech2 software may or may not reconise the pre 97 ECUs if they did not exist post 97, or if the software/firmware version the ECU is running didn't exist post 97. Knowing the flakey cheapo Tech2 software, it may not read it anyway...

Do you know why my scantool wouldn't read a 1998?

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Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega?
Reply #11 - 09. Jan 2007 at 22:08

Auto Addict wrote on 09. Jan 2007 at 22:06:

TheBoy wrote on 09. Jan 2007 at 21:29:

OK, tiny bit of history.

GM used to use a handheld device called a Tech1. Good little device, but was struggling to cope with the expanded range of systems on newer cars. When the Omega came out, it had so made onboard systems, the Tech1 needed its own dedicated software cartridge (as well as a multiplexer).

So, in 1997, GM moved over to Tech2 device, a much more capable piece of hardware.

So, in general, a GM Tech1 needed for pre 97 cars (including pre 97 Omegas), and a Tech2 for post 97 cars.

However, as Tunnie rightly pointed out, there were no significant differences between 96 and 97 Omegas, so often a Tech2 can read some systems on a pre 97 car, as long as that same ECU existed on post 97 cars, and a Tech1 can read some parts of a post 97 car, as long as ecu existed on older cars.

The cheapo Tech2 software may or may not reconise the pre 97 ECUs if they did not exist post 97, or if the software/firmware version the ECU is running didn't exist post 97. Knowing the flakey cheapo Tech2 software, it may not read it anyway...

Do you know why my scantool wouldn't read a 1998?

The one that you acquired from Mark? Thats a OBDII reader, hence will not work on pre OBDII Omegas (2.0,2.5,3.0)

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Auto Addict Administrator Offline OOF's Elder Statesman Posts: 10091 North Birmingham Gender: Drives: 2.6 CDX	Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega? Reply #12 - 09. Jan 2007 at 22:09 Thanks, I thought so, just wanted to be sure.
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Taxi Driver Omega Lord Offline OOF Holly Dog Posts: 8413 Swindon Gender: Drives: Fiat Scudo 90 Multijet (whatever that means!)	Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega? Reply #13 - 09. Jan 2007 at 22:44 Auto Addict wrote on 09. Jan 2007 at 22:09: Thanks, I thought so, just wanted to be sure. Take it back AA.....demand a refund...
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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: Will this work with my 1995 V6 Meega? Reply #14 - 09. Jan 2007 at 22:53 Interesting stuff, my thinking was that eBay box would work because your tech2 worked on my '95 Elite (although with limited capabilities) Whist on the subject and sorry to hi-jack, I take it there is no way it can read a Senator? - I assume that needs a Tech1 connection, is it backwards compatible?
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