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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #210 - 25. Aug 2007 at 23:11
 
Omegatoy wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 22:59:
hmm kind of expected that Angry when we moved the pump the extra mm and it didnt improve it any further, should have reset it to the second or third position it was best there i think, did you try a hot start? was it ok? how much smoke now? damn i can see me going round again to get it dead right!!!
mrs Omegatoy wasnt to mad really  Shocked as she informed me that i had bought her a new phone!!!! Kiss for being so late, fancy hurting a guy in his wallet? thats only just slightly better than the ear bashing i was expecting!!! Cry

Stopped at Tunnie's for about 30mins, started fine then.  It was dark, but could see a little smoke as I passed the streetlights when caning it.

Shall I get that broken socket replaced so we can do piezo injector up, or see about refund and try and get Draper set from somewhere?

The strange rattle when I first went on test drive went after while.  Hopefully the lifter treatment will start to work if it is tappets.  I'm not sure if its tappet or diesel knock noise?

On the driveway, if I revved it, bit get a fair bit of smoke - it disappeared under MV6 and appeared behind that. Probably too much smoke...
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #211 - 25. Aug 2007 at 23:21
 
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Under load, its a loud tickety noise


If the rattle is sensitive to load it's unlikely be tappets I'd say. More likely timing related or an exhaust blow perhaps?

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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #212 - 25. Aug 2007 at 23:26
 
Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 23:21:
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Under load, its a loud tickety noise


If the rattle is sensitive to load it's unlikely be tappets I'd say. More likely timing related or an exhaust blow perhaps?

Kevin

Take your foot off at 70mph Roll Eyes, and its nearly quiet.


Oh, and Omegatoy, guess who forgot to put the wipers on Roll Eyes - you try washing your windscreen at silly speeds, only to find there is nothing to wipe the screen Grin.  I should know better - I did the same to MaxV6 earlier this year  Embarrassed
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #213 - 25. Aug 2007 at 23:26
 
TheBoy wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 23:11:
Omegatoy wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 22:59:
hmm kind of expected that Angry when we moved the pump the extra mm and it didnt improve it any further, should have reset it to the second or third position it was best there i think, did you try a hot start? was it ok? how much smoke now? damn i can see me going round again to get it dead right!!!
mrs Omegatoy wasnt to mad really  Shocked as she informed me that i had bought her a new phone!!!! Kiss for being so late, fancy hurting a guy in his wallet? thats only just slightly better than the ear bashing i was expecting!!! Cry

Stopped at Tunnie's for about 30mins, started fine then.  It was dark, but could see a little smoke as I passed the streetlights when caning it.

Shall I get that broken socket replaced so we can do piezo injector up, or see about refund and try and get Draper set from somewhere?

The strange rattle when I first went on test drive went after while.  Hopefully the lifter treatment will start to work if it is tappets.  I'm not sure if its tappet or diesel knock noise?

On the driveway, if I revved it, bit get a fair bit of smoke - it disappeared under MV6 and appeared behind that. Probably too much smoke...

Think we should tighten the piezo injector but also think you should put a few hundred miles on it before we go doing anything else to see if it settles down after clearing its throat so to speak, slight power loss could be down to extremely flat inlet gaskets allowing a small boost bleed off? also think should blank egr off to see if it restores your performance Grin but all that can be done later just good to see you driving the thing without causing a water shortage again Thumbs Up!
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #214 - 25. Aug 2007 at 23:36
 
Omegatoy wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 23:26:
TheBoy wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 23:11:
Omegatoy wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 22:59:
hmm kind of expected that Angry when we moved the pump the extra mm and it didnt improve it any further, should have reset it to the second or third position it was best there i think, did you try a hot start? was it ok? how much smoke now? damn i can see me going round again to get it dead right!!!
mrs Omegatoy wasnt to mad really  Shocked as she informed me that i had bought her a new phone!!!! Kiss for being so late, fancy hurting a guy in his wallet? thats only just slightly better than the ear bashing i was expecting!!! Cry

Stopped at Tunnie's for about 30mins, started fine then.  It was dark, but could see a little smoke as I passed the streetlights when caning it.

Shall I get that broken socket replaced so we can do piezo injector up, or see about refund and try and get Draper set from somewhere?

The strange rattle when I first went on test drive went after while.  Hopefully the lifter treatment will start to work if it is tappets.  I'm not sure if its tappet or diesel knock noise?

On the driveway, if I revved it, bit get a fair bit of smoke - it disappeared under MV6 and appeared behind that. Probably too much smoke...

Think we should tighten the piezo injector but also think you should put a few hundred miles on it before we go doing anything else to see if it settles down after clearing its throat so to speak, slight power loss could be down to extremely flat inlet gaskets allowing a small boost bleed off? also think should blank egr off to see if it restores your performance Grin but all that can be done later just good to see you driving the thing without causing a water shortage again Thumbs Up!

Yeah, need to flush coolant through a few times - donor car probably didn't have much antifreeze in by look of things.  Don't want to do another oil change until that lifter treatment has had chance to work - or should I consider putting more in?

I'll get that socket replaced tomorrow if Motorserv are open, so any time you have 10mins, drop me a text Thumbs Up!.  An experienced ear on the remaining noise, and perhaps a test drive?
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #215 - 25. Aug 2007 at 23:57
 
TheBoy wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 23:26:
Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 23:21:
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Under load, its a loud tickety noise


If the rattle is sensitive to load it's unlikely be tappets I'd say. More likely timing related or an exhaust blow perhaps?

Kevin

Take your foot off at 70mph Roll Eyes, and its nearly quiet.


Oh, and Omegatoy, guess who forgot to put the wipers on Roll Eyes - you try washing your windscreen at silly speeds, only to find there is nothing to wipe the screen Grin.  I should know better - I did the same to MaxV6 earlier this year  Embarrassed


note to self, if the boy offers to fit a part on my car, go round behind him and tighten everything he does up!!!!!! Grin
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #216 - 26. Aug 2007 at 00:14
 
Omegatoy wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 23:57:
TheBoy wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 23:26:
Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 23:21:
Quote:
Under load, its a loud tickety noise


If the rattle is sensitive to load it's unlikely be tappets I'd say. More likely timing related or an exhaust blow perhaps?

Kevin

Take your foot off at 70mph Roll Eyes, and its nearly quiet.


Oh, and Omegatoy, guess who forgot to put the wipers on Roll Eyes - you try washing your windscreen at silly speeds, only to find there is nothing to wipe the screen Grin.  I should know better - I did the same to MaxV6 earlier this year  Embarrassed


note to self, if the boy offers to fit a part on my car, go round behind him and tighten everything he does up!!!!!! Grin

After everything I said, you can imagine what a dork I felt when I realised  Embarrassed
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #217 - 26. Aug 2007 at 08:36
 
TheBoy wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 23:26:
Oh, and Omegatoy, guess who forgot to put the wipers on Roll Eyes - you try washing your windscreen at silly speeds, only to find there is nothing to wipe the screen Grin.  I should know better - I did the same to MaxV6 earlier this year  Embarrassed



Grin Grin Grin Grin

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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #218 - 26. Aug 2007 at 09:45
 
TheBoy wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 23:26:
Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Aug 2007 at 23:21:
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Under load, its a loud tickety noise


If the rattle is sensitive to load it's unlikely be tappets I'd say. More likely timing related or an exhaust blow perhaps?

Kevin

Take your foot off at 70mph Roll Eyes, and its nearly quiet.


Oh, and Omegatoy, guess who forgot to put the wipers on Roll Eyes - you try washing your windscreen at silly speeds, only to find there is nothing to wipe the screen Grin.  I should know better - I did the same to MaxV6 earlier this year  Embarrassed


Grin Grin done that before - quick test drive of Bob Dents old estate after dis pack swap saw me caught in a down pour and no blades...
Good news at last on this one.....maybe next weekend we have a double celebration  - perfect running tractor and Vectra v6  Cheesy
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #219 - 26. Aug 2007 at 10:26
 
Ha ha so Tunnie has competion in breaking things  Grin
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #220 - 26. Aug 2007 at 10:37
 
Markie wrote on 26. Aug 2007 at 09:45:
Good news at last on this one.....maybe next weekend we have a double celebration  - perfect running tractor and Vectra v6  Cheesy

I think thats pushing the truth a little Grin
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Reply #221 - 26. Aug 2007 at 10:53
 
Glad to hear its running at last Wink Have you tried running Forte via the filter?? This should reduce the smoke a fair bit.
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Reply #222 - 26. Aug 2007 at 11:02
 
Dazzler wrote on 26. Aug 2007 at 10:53:
Glad to hear its running at last Wink Have you tried running Forte via the filter?? This should reduce the smoke a fair bit.

Half filled the fuel filter with Diesel Magic (as recommended by Omegatoy).  Could possible do with another dose once I've done a few miles.
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Reply #223 - 26. Aug 2007 at 19:05
 
happy to hear its working ok  Thumbs Up!

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Reply #224 - 26. Aug 2007 at 19:18
 
Unfortunately, the fecking thing is jinxed.

Yesterday was obviously just a fluke.

If you can start the heap, it runs awful, lumpy, smokey, noisy.  No amount of pump adjustment dials it out today.

Both Omegatoy and I are entirely out of ideas now.

Time to call the local scrappy for collection methinks.
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