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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #345 - 29. Aug 2007 at 08:54 Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 08:06: better the devil you know! Fast coming to that conclusion....
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LFF64 Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1139 BICESTER OXON Gender: Drives: 2.5 CDX AUTO 1998 2.8 TDi SWB PAJERO 1994	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #346 - 29. Aug 2007 at 09:43 If its coming out again I can assist again Could we just aim for a dry day though
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #347 - 29. Aug 2007 at 09:51 LFF64 wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 09:43: If its coming out again I can assist again Could we just aim for a dry day though lol, got over the pnumonia (spelling never my strong point) yet?
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #348 - 29. Aug 2007 at 09:54

LFF64 wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 09:43:

If its coming out again I can assist again Wink

Could we just aim for a dry day though Thumbs Up!

seriously, appreciate the offer, may take you up on it, esp as Omegatoy's availability is going to be non existent for a while, lucky sod....

Though may take his advice and take box out with it this time.....

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Marks DTM Calib Administrator Offline Ex Member Posts: 25671 Northern Hemisphere Gender: Drives: Astra J, Mum Bus, Dexta Tractor, 108 DMU wip	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #349 - 29. Aug 2007 at 09:54 Its still important to do a timing check on the replacement first (no need to look at chains for this) as you want to know the cause of the poor running and confirm it before reusuing other parts as the final solution.
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #350 - 29. Aug 2007 at 09:59

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 09:54:

Its still important to do a timing check on the replacement first (no need to look at chains for this) as you want to know the cause of the poor running and confirm it before reusuing other parts as the final solution.

I know you are right... ...just anxious to get it going asap - this weekend is out, but I have Monday off, plus a few evenings. Keen to get this knocked on head, been here since March (bit like your LPG project Grin

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Once the engine is sorted, need to sweet talk Sassanach in to borrowing his mates garage so we can find out why the autobox has decided to spring a leak Sad

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LFF64 Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1139 BICESTER OXON Gender: Drives: 2.5 CDX AUTO 1998 2.8 TDi SWB PAJERO 1994	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #351 - 29. Aug 2007 at 10:46 I am on early shift next week so free in afternoons well after 1400 hrs . If you need a hand let me know
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #352 - 29. Aug 2007 at 10:49 LFF64 wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 10:46: I am on early shift next week so free in afternoons well after 1400 hrs . If you need a hand let me know Thanks I need to borrow some stuff first, so it depends when I can get my hands on those bits....
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #353 - 29. Aug 2007 at 10:56

Just thinking the gearbox leak could be just a shaft seal gone where we we trying to line the engine and box up. It may be something that could be got at when /if the engine comes out . Have you got a drawing of the gearbox to see if there are any seals that could be obtained and replaced if required if we do end up taking it out Questioning

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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #354 - 29. Aug 2007 at 11:06

LFF64 wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 10:56:

Just thinking the gearbox leak could be just a shaft seal gone where we we trying to line the engine and box up. It may be something that could be got at when /if the engine comes out . Have you got a drawing of the gearbox to see if there are any seals that could be obtained and replaced if required if we do end up taking it out Questioning

I think there are a few things it could be, so probably need to try to investigate once box is off (with engine), then see what parts need buying.

Could also be the sumps, as even with the wood in place, stress would have been put on it...

Unless anyone has a complete seal kit I can 'borrow' and replace the parts I use?

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JamesV6CDX Ex Member Gender: Drives: 2002 (02) 3.2 Retail MV6 in Star Silver with Leather	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #355 - 29. Aug 2007 at 13:11 So what's the next project after this one, Jaime? As before... offer of assistance is available for the swap, if we can fit it in my shift patterns...
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #356 - 29. Aug 2007 at 13:32

JamesV6CDX wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 13:11:

So what's the next project after this one, Jaime? Roll Eyes

As before... offer of assistance is available for the swap, if we can fit it in my shift patterns...

who knows... ...see what comes along. Unlikely to be another BMW engine, as they are horrible to work on. Give me a V6 any day.

Sounds like you've got enough trips to Brackley without me dragging you over....

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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #357 - 29. Aug 2007 at 19:57

If youve decided to swop heads blocks etc make sure they are interchangable, early head/late block etc.
Ask local factors if they can show an early and late gasket to make sure they are the same or check no's on EPC to make sure they are the same. Different thicknesses obviously different no's but should be same no's early and late. also make sure you fit later injectors to go with later block as the combustion chamber will be different. This you can check properly with head removed piston crowns should look different . Don't forget all combustion is done in the piston unlike petrol where it is mostly done in the head. Thumbs Up!

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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #358 - 29. Aug 2007 at 21:11

familyman wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 19:57:

If youve decided to swop heads blocks etc make sure they are interchangable, early head/late block etc.
Ask local factors if they can show an early and late gasket to make sure they are the same or check no's on EPC to make sure they are the same. Different thicknesses obviously different no's but should be same no's early and late. also make sure you fit later injectors to go with later block as the combustion chamber will be different. This you can check properly with head removed piston crowns should look different . Don't forget all combustion is done in the piston unlike petrol where it is mostly done in the head. Thumbs Up!

Thanks for advice.

If gaskets different, should I go for one that matches block or head?

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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #359 - 29. Aug 2007 at 22:00

TheBoy wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 21:11:

familyman wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 19:57:

If youve decided to swop heads blocks etc make sure they are interchangable, early head/late block etc.
Ask local factors if they can show an early and late gasket to make sure they are the same or check no's on EPC to make sure they are the same. Different thicknesses obviously different no's but should be same no's early and late. also make sure you fit later injectors to go with later block as the combustion chamber will be different. This you can check properly with head removed piston crowns should look different . Don't forget all combustion is done in the piston unlike petrol where it is mostly done in the head. Thumbs Up!

Thanks for advice.

If gaskets different, should I go for one that matches block or head?

Sorry TB if gaskets different you won't be able to swop heads. As heads and blocks won't match:-[
Wife suggests so she won't lose husband in the depths of a far away engine bay How about popping it on a trailer and drop it down to me and leave till its sorted? Thumbs Up!

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