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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #360 - 29. Aug 2007 at 22:10

familyman wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 22:00:

TheBoy wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 21:11:

familyman wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 19:57:

If youve decided to swop heads blocks etc make sure they are interchangable, early head/late block etc.
Ask local factors if they can show an early and late gasket to make sure they are the same or check no's on EPC to make sure they are the same. Different thicknesses obviously different no's but should be same no's early and late. also make sure you fit later injectors to go with later block as the combustion chamber will be different. This you can check properly with head removed piston crowns should look different . Don't forget all combustion is done in the piston unlike petrol where it is mostly done in the head. Thumbs Up!

Thanks for advice.

If gaskets different, should I go for one that matches block or head?

Sorry TB if gaskets different you won't be able to swop heads. As heads and blocks won't match:-[
Wife suggests so she won't lose husband in the depths of a far away engine bay How about popping it on a trailer and drop it down to me and leave till its sorted? Thumbs Up!

That is a hugely generous offer...

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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #361 - 29. Aug 2007 at 22:17

TheBoy wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 22:10:

familyman wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 22:00:

TheBoy wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 21:11:

familyman wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 19:57:

If youve decided to swop heads blocks etc make sure they are interchangable, early head/late block etc.
Ask local factors if they can show an early and late gasket to make sure they are the same or check no's on EPC to make sure they are the same. Different thicknesses obviously different no's but should be same no's early and late. also make sure you fit later injectors to go with later block as the combustion chamber will be different. This you can check properly with head removed piston crowns should look different . Don't forget all combustion is done in the piston unlike petrol where it is mostly done in the head. Thumbs Up!

Thanks for advice.

If gaskets different, should I go for one that matches block or head?

Sorry TB if gaskets different you won't be able to swop heads. As heads and blocks won't match:-[
Wife suggests so she won't lose husband in the depths of a far away engine bay How about popping it on a trailer and drop it down to me and leave till its sorted? Thumbs Up!

That is a hugely generous offer...

S'okay she knows how much i love intresting challenges like this. Frustrating i can't be there to help you out. Its a good forum and the people make the forum so as y'all seem a good bunch i would like to help out. Down here as well i can get to tools etc.. May cost a few cans of cold frothy ones at the end. Grin

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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #362 - 29. Aug 2007 at 22:31 As said, hugely generous offer. Which I may take you up on, though possibly not yet due to the fact that I really want to beat this tractor - its become personal now . Very reassuring to have that safety net though, should it beat me Incidentally, know of cheap car transporter if it comes to that?
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familyman Intermediate Member Offline Posts: 320 Sittingbourne, Kent Gender:	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #363 - 29. Aug 2007 at 22:35 Yesish know a guy who knows a guy etc..... can get a car trailer big enough for Omega, and then throw all the spares in boot of my miggy. Would test new rear springs
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #364 - 29. Aug 2007 at 22:38 familyman wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 22:35: Yesish know a guy who knows a guy etc..... can get a car trailer big enough for Omega, and then throw all the spares in boot of my miggy. Would test new rear springs Err, but I have a spare engine - that wont fit in boot
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #365 - 29. Aug 2007 at 22:41

TheBoy wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 22:38:

familyman wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 22:35:

Yesish know a guy who knows a guy etc..... can get a car trailer big enough for Omega, and then throw all the spares in boot of my miggy. Would test new rear springs Grin

Err, but I have a spare engine - that wont fit in boot Grin

I've got an estate/tardis Time and relative dimension in space once back seats are down I'm sure it echoes in there;) Grin

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JamesV6CDX Ex Member Gender: Drives: 2002 (02) 3.2 Retail MV6 in Star Silver with Leather	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #366 - 29. Aug 2007 at 23:17 I agree, it's become personal to you! And.. you must get the better of it. You've spent way more than usually would be the case on a project.. But I still reckon you'll break even if you can get it running OK and flog it....
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #367 - 30. Aug 2007 at 07:58

JamesV6CDX wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 23:17:

I agree, it's become personal to you!

And.. you must get the better of it.

You've spent way more than usually would be the case on a project.. But I still reckon you'll break even if you can get it running OK and flog it....

May keep it for a while, recover some of the costs on better mpg - currently burn £3k annually just to work and back.

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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #368 - 30. Aug 2007 at 09:56

TheBoy wrote on 30. Aug 2007 at 07:58:

JamesV6CDX wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 23:17:

I agree, it's become personal to you!

And.. you must get the better of it.

You've spent way more than usually would be the case on a project.. But I still reckon you'll break even if you can get it running OK and flog it....

May keep it for a while, recover some of the costs on better mpg - currently burn £3k annually just to work and back.

About £1100 for me!!

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sassanach Senior Member Offline Posts: 805 trowbridge Gender:	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #369 - 02. Sep 2007 at 21:50 whats the state of play on the tractor then?
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Re: Project Tractor engine swap
Reply #370 - 02. Sep 2007 at 22:08

TheBoy wrote on 29. Aug 2007 at 22:31:

As said, hugely generous offer. Which I may take you up on, though possibly not yet due to the fact that I really want to beat this tractor - its become personal now Angry

. Very reassuring to have that safety net though, should it beat me Thumbs Up!

Incidentally, know of cheap car transporter if it comes to that?

Depending on how well i can get the Elite running, a tow bar and a trailer could do well for me and future projects. I know someware i can get a proffessional double axel trailer with straps for £25 for the weekend....

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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #371 - 02. Sep 2007 at 22:16 sassanach wrote on 02. Sep 2007 at 21:50: whats the state of play on the tractor then? Sorry, been away at the Wales meeting this weekend. Nothing done since you helped me push it back up the drive. Unsure what to do next. Either change the chains and pump, or swap the heads over then swap engines?
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #372 - 02. Sep 2007 at 22:21 I've got the day off tomorrow.... ....might go out and have another poke at it...
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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #373 - 02. Sep 2007 at 22:27 TheBoy wrote on 02. Sep 2007 at 22:21: I've got the day off tomorrow.... ....might go out and have another poke at it... I will drop you a call tomorrow if the dealer has some of the bits in stock i need
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JamesV6CDX Ex Member Gender: Drives: 2002 (02) 3.2 Retail MV6 in Star Silver with Leather	Re: Project Tractor engine swap Reply #374 - 03. Sep 2007 at 00:55 TheBoy wrote on 02. Sep 2007 at 22:21: I've got the day off tomorrow.... ....might go out and have another poke at it... Have you now... I'll see what I'm doing...
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