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Re: Omega alignment
Reply #15 - 19. Sep 2007 at 21:13

rds wrote on 18. Sep 2007 at 13:54:

hi thanks for that - i'm in south London so solihull a bit far!

regards

Not at all...worth going to see them. I did, after 4 years of pulling to the left, and Tony got me sorted... it is really worth going there...

On the previous Omega, the Vx dealer charged me £95 for full geometry but I got a full refund after I took the technician to a test drive (in a car park, because if you try it on a road they will always blame it on the road camber) and showed him it was still pulling to the left...

My advice is go to see Tony at Wheels in Motion, even from Solihul.

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Re: Omega alignment
Reply #16 - 20. Sep 2007 at 17:09

jonathanh wrote on 19. Sep 2007 at 19:36:

Don't think the dealer will check. 4 years ago the dealer warned me about the wishbone bushes as an advisory for the MOT. THe last three MOTs have passed without even an advisory on this despite me not doing anything at all!

cheers - i think this advisory stuff is another way to part you form your £££

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Re: Omega alignment
Reply #17 - 20. Sep 2007 at 17:10

Markjay wrote on 19. Sep 2007 at 21:13:

rds wrote on 18. Sep 2007 at 13:54:

hi thanks for that - i'm in south London so solihull a bit far!

regards

Not at all...worth going to see them. I did, after 4 years of pulling to the left, and Tony got me sorted... it is really worth going there...

On the previous Omega, the Vx dealer charged me £95 for full geometry but I got a full refund after I took the technician to a test drive (in a car park, because if you try it on a road they will always blame it on the road camber) and showed him it was still pulling to the left...

My advice is go to see Tony at Wheels in Motion, even from Solihul.

ok B&Q carpark here i come first.............

cheers!

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Re: Omega alignment
Reply #18 - 20. Sep 2007 at 17:12

wheels-inmotion wrote on 18. Sep 2007 at 20:25:

rds wrote on 18. Sep 2007 at 13:12:

Hello everyone

i am having an issue with the main dealer after my 4 year service and alignment problems.

Leaving aside the other issues, they have charged me for an alignment check and adjustment but apparetnly have not adjusted anyting as the car was on the limit of tolerance for pulling to the left!

I was not happy with being charged for this activity/explanation and they are now re-aligning. I have asked that the change be to drive straight ahead ie not pull to the left or right but in a neutral position. The technician has advised me that this would put the geometry to the other extreme tolerance and is not recommended.

Surely if pulling to the left is one extreme, being "neutral" is not the other extreme but mid way to puliing to the right?

They have to sort the car today so any thoughts greatfully received.

many thanks

RDS

Can you display any figures.... Namely the front camber and castor positions.

the figures they gave me were scant to say the least - i'll dig them out at home and re-post!

ta

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rds Newbie Offline Posts: 18	Re: Omega alignment Reply #19 - 24. Sep 2007 at 14:36 Car is now back with me. However Dealer has only given me the toe in figure not caster and camber saying that is only doen for 4 wheel alignment. Is that true?? the car still pulls to the left. Ive left the toe in at home but i recall it as +2mm. they are due to call me back today so views appreciated ! regards RDS
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Kevin Wood Global Moderator Admin Team Offline Posts: 20377 Alton, Hampshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 MV6 (LPG), Westfield	Re: Omega alignment Reply #20 - 24. Sep 2007 at 15:02 If they knew what they were doing they would have known that TOE cannot affect pulling to one side and they would have done a 4 wheel alignment! Kevin
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rds Newbie Offline Posts: 18	Re: Omega alignment Reply #21 - 24. Sep 2007 at 16:59 thnaks but is that correct? ie if one wheel takes a clump eg from a kerb then it will not align and then pull to one side or other? regards RDS
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Re: Omega alignment
Reply #22 - 24. Sep 2007 at 17:59

If you discount the position of the steering wheel (if it is straight ahead when the car is travelling straight), TOE acts equally on each wheel when the car is running straight. The two wheels have different toe only once the driver turns one way or the other.

Incorrect toe can make the car unstable or nervous and can cause tyre rear problems but it won't, in itself, cause the car to pull to one side since it acts equally on both front wheels when travelling straight.

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Re: Omega alignment
Reply #23 - 24. Sep 2007 at 18:26

ok thanks for that - so in a way they are right - you need to pay extra for the full check but they are "wrong" in that they said the alignment check would see if there was any incorrect setting!!

is it true though that "all omegas tend to pull to the left"?

the mechanic says "we can adjust the settings to straight ahead but that is the opposite kimit of travel". Should i go for that?

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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Omega alignment Reply #24 - 24. Sep 2007 at 18:31 Don't waste anymore money at the dealer - pop up and see Wheels-InMotion who posted earlier. Mention OmegaOwners for a capped price. You will get a proper alignment suited to your car. I personally thoroughly recommend them.
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Omega alignment Reply #25 - 24. Sep 2007 at 18:33 JasonH wrote on 18. Sep 2007 at 21:04: Pulling to the left on an Omega is often a failed wishbone bush - a VERY common problem. Pulling is always either a geometry issue or a tyre drift issue. Any worn component will give inconsistencies, but unlikely to give a constant pull...
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Re: Omega alignment
Reply #26 - 24. Sep 2007 at 18:38

TheBoy wrote on 24. Sep 2007 at 18:33:

JasonH wrote on 18. Sep 2007 at 21:04:

Pulling to the left on an Omega is often a failed wishbone bush - a VERY common problem.

Pulling is always either a geometry issue or a tyre drift issue. Any worn component will give inconsistencies, but unlikely to give a constant pull...

yes: i specifically asked the dealer that and they said no worn parts........also tyre pressure was checked.

so could be a 4 wheel alignment after all?

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Re: Omega alignment
Reply #27 - 24. Sep 2007 at 18:55

rds wrote on 24. Sep 2007 at 18:38:

TheBoy wrote on 24. Sep 2007 at 18:33:

JasonH wrote on 18. Sep 2007 at 21:04:

Pulling to the left on an Omega is often a failed wishbone bush - a VERY common problem.

Pulling is always either a geometry issue or a tyre drift issue. Any worn component will give inconsistencies, but unlikely to give a constant pull...

yes: i specifically asked the dealer that and they said no worn parts........also tyre pressure was checked.

so could be a 4 wheel alignment after all?

4 wheel alignment is not worth doing imho. That is possibly what the dealer has done. Get a FULL GEOMETRY check done by SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING (which rules out most dealers!). As said, http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk in Hemel Hempstead, just off M25.

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Re: Omega alignment
Reply #28 - 25. Sep 2007 at 10:00

TheBoy wrote on 24. Sep 2007 at 18:55:

rds wrote on 24. Sep 2007 at 18:38:

TheBoy wrote on 24. Sep 2007 at 18:33:

JasonH wrote on 18. Sep 2007 at 21:04:

Pulling to the left on an Omega is often a failed wishbone bush - a VERY common problem.

Pulling is always either a geometry issue or a tyre drift issue. Any worn component will give inconsistencies, but unlikely to give a constant pull...

yes: i specifically asked the dealer that and they said no worn parts........also tyre pressure was checked.

so could be a 4 wheel alignment after all?

4 wheel alignment is not worth doing imho. That is possibly what the dealer has done. Get a FULL GEOMETRY check done by SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING (which rules out most dealers!). As said, http://www.wheels-inmotion.co.uk in Hemel Hempstead, just off M25.

Ok thanks again!

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RDS

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