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Reading the Vauxhall VIN Plate
31. Dec 2007 at 20:50

I found an article in this Forum about reading the VIN plate but am not really a lot wiser. I wonder why Vauchall have made it so overly complicated? I have a 2.5 diesel estate with the BMW engine and manual gearbox. The VIN plate has the usual tosh Immediately below the full VIN number it says 2255 kg, and below that it says 3855 kgs. It then has two other figures next to a 1 and a 2 which I figure are the axle weights. Would the 3855 kgs be the maximum permitted mass when towing a trailer - eg. if I deduct the unladen weight of the car from that do I get the legal payload of the trailer I am allowed to tow? Help appreciated. Every where you look Vauxhall deliberately confuse. The handbook referring to different cars having different towing limits. Then referring you to a nonsensical VIN plate. Guidance appreciated if possible. Thanks. Nice car shame about the manufacturers handbook and guidance or lack thereof.

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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Reading the Vauxhall VIN Plate Reply #1 - 31. Dec 2007 at 20:53 subtract the 2 numbers for max trailer weight
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Re: Reading the Vauxhall VIN Plate
Reply #4 - 31. Dec 2007 at 21:03

TheBoy wrote on 31. Dec 2007 at 20:53:

subtract the 2 numbers for max trailer weight

That sounds right. I just wonder why they cannot simply add the words MTW or ULW or something to their VIN plate. I guess that is correct but wanted the comfort of your guidance. Thanks and will use the forum again and see what I learn. Much appreciated.

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Reply #5 - 31. Dec 2007 at 22:11

You will have the max gross weight, mas front axle weight, max rear axle weight and also the max train (vehiclewith trailer) weight.

To get the max load available to be placed on the trailer, weigh the empty car/trailer combo and deduct from max train weight.

Remember, that includes the passengers and bags etc in the car as well as the load on the trailer.

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Reply #7 - 01. Jan 2008 at 05:19

Thanks for all the help. I know how to calculate the weights hence the reason I asked the question in the first place - to get the data to enable me to calculate the weights. It would seem that the 3855 kilos must/has to be the gross train weight. It is the only logical possibility isn't it? If it is then I will weight the car and check the proper ULW. That will give me the margin. I should then know the maximum allowed weight of the trailer with its load. That assumes that the 3855 is the GTW which it has to be I think although as Vauxhall have decided that it is best not to state what the weights relate too one can only guess.

Curiosity though. If the GTW is 3855. What is the payload of the car forgetting all about towing trailers? I am again guessing that maybe the GVW is the 2255 and that figure less the unladen weight will give the payload of the car? Thoughts appreciated. Happy New Year and thanks for your help once more.

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Re: Reading the Vauxhall VIN Plate
Reply #11 - 01. Jan 2008 at 13:30

Omega25BMW wrote on 01. Jan 2008 at 05:19:

Curiosity though. If the GTW is 3855. What is the payload of the car forgetting all about towing trailers? I am again guessing that maybe the GVW is the 2255 and that figure less the unladen weight will give the payload of the car? Thoughts appreciated. Happy New Year and thanks for your help once more.

You have answered your own question....
1 = front axle weight.
2 = rear axle weight
2255 is MAM of the car & load as transmitted through both axles
3855 is max train weight.

If no trailer coupled, car MAM is 2255.

If taking things to an extreme load in the car, a rough and dirty sum is to deduct 2255 from 3855 =1600. This would be the max trailer and load that a fully laden car could have hanging off the rear. However, remember that coupling the trailer to the car will transfer weight to the car as well so really need to weigh the whole contrivance when linked, if you follow...

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