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Genuine or Pattern gaskets?
14. May 2008 at 20:45

Ok I risk setting the cat amonst the pigeons here, but I'm after a bit of a sensible/factual debate based on current curcumstances.

Circumstances are as follows. I have a poorly 2.0 16v Omega which I'm currently doing a top end stripdown, clean, and rebuild on a low budget.

Chances are when it runs I will sell the Disco, and I will need the 2.0 Estate to "get us by" for about 6 months.

My question (and I want to ask a wide audience) is this -

I have bought a head gasket set with every top end gasket/seal required to complete the build.

All mating surfaces are squeaky clean and smooth and new studs will be used.

Do I use the composite gaskets that came in the kit for the exhaust manifold, and also use the supplied camcover gasket -

Or should I splash out around £40 extra for the genuine VX ones?

If this was a newer, nicer car I wouldn't even be asking the question, but remembering the car's value (about £400 most when running) and the length of time I need it, I am tossing up whether properly fitted pattern gaskets in these applications might get me by.

Answers on a postcard Wink

I'm not convinced either way at the moment.

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Andy B Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 21988 Bury Lancs Gender: Drives: 1999 3.0 Elite auto/TDM	Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets? Reply #1 - 14. May 2008 at 20:49 If it was a car I was going to keep I'd use the 'proper' GM gaskets. But in this case I think I'd use the pattern gaskets that came in the kit. Chances are it'll be someone else's problem by the time they fail.
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Elite Pete Omega King Offline My spider senses are tingling Posts: 17813 Northwich/Chester Gender: Drives: Facelift Wheezel,Breaking 2001 MV6	Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets? Reply #2 - 14. May 2008 at 20:53 I suppose it depends on how long you intend to keep the car.
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JamesV6CDX Ex Member Gender: Drives: 2002 (02) 3.2 Retail MV6 in Star Silver with Leather	Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets? Reply #3 - 14. May 2008 at 20:55 Elite Pete wrote on 14. May 2008 at 20:53: I suppose it depends on how long you intend to keep the car. 6 months max
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dbug Omega Lord Offline Dont knock Linux! Posts: 7822 Northants Gender: Drives: 98 V6 Elite auto	Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets? Reply #4 - 14. May 2008 at 20:57 JamesV6CDX wrote on 14. May 2008 at 20:55: Elite Pete wrote on 14. May 2008 at 20:53: I suppose it depends on how long you intend to keep the car. 6 months max Use the gaskets u have - not worth extra expense - yours should easily last 6 months!
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Marks DTM Calib Administrator Offline Ex Member Posts: 25671 Northern Hemisphere Gender: Drives: Astra J, Mum Bus, Dexta Tractor, 108 DMU wip	Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets? Reply #5 - 14. May 2008 at 21:08 Well, the pattern cam cover gaskets are unlikely to last 6 months from bitter experience and the composite exhaust manifold gaskets are just not worth fitting. Re-use the old cam seals though!
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JamesV6CDX Ex Member Gender: Drives: 2002 (02) 3.2 Retail MV6 in Star Silver with Leather	Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets? Reply #6 - 14. May 2008 at 21:14 Marks DTM Calib wrote on 14. May 2008 at 21:08: Well, the pattern cam cover gaskets are unlikely to last 6 months from bitter experience and the composite exhaust manifold gaskets are just not worth fitting. Re-use the old cam seals though! Are pattern cam cover gaskets on the 2.0 any better than the V6 ones?
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smoothomega Omega Knight Offline 2002 2.2DTI CDX, Posts: 1274 Woodhouse, Leicestershire Gender: Drives: 2002 Omega 2.2DTI CDX	Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets? Reply #7 - 14. May 2008 at 21:19 James, your back...............now i know i have been away too long!!! Welcome home
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smoothomega Omega Knight Offline 2002 2.2DTI CDX, Posts: 1274 Woodhouse, Leicestershire Gender: Drives: 2002 Omega 2.2DTI CDX	Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets? Reply #8 - 14. May 2008 at 21:21 BTW James, if it were me i would stick the pattern parts on and keep my fingers crossed if this is not a long term car. £40 in the piggy bank towards the next one then
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lee4206 Senior Member Offline Mot Tester Posts: 665 southampton Gender: Drives: Manual facelift 3.0mv6	Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets? Reply #9 - 14. May 2008 at 21:42 Use the pattern ones.. I rebuilt my head 3 years ago using a gasket set from partco/unipart inc cam cover and manifold gaskets and i have no leaks at all. I guess the 2.0lts arn't as prone to blowing the gaskets as the v6 ones. lee
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Baron Von Spongebob Omega Baron Offline Living the dream Posts: 3015 South Wales Gender: Drives: Is the world ready for me..	Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets? Reply #10 - 14. May 2008 at 21:44 Get a pattern one..I like the ones with bunny rabbits on..
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Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets?
Reply #11 - 14. May 2008 at 21:44

JamesV6CDX wrote on 14. May 2008 at 21:14:

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 14. May 2008 at 21:08:

Well, the pattern cam cover gaskets are unlikely to last 6 months from bitter experience and the composite exhaust manifold gaskets are just not worth fitting.

Re-use the old cam seals though!

Are pattern cam cover gaskets on the 2.0 any better than the V6 ones?

Nope, equally as shite!!

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CaptainZok Omega Lord Offline Pinky for PM Posts: 7301 Bolton Gender: Drives: 2000 MY 2.5 Elite	Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets? Reply #12 - 14. May 2008 at 21:46 Baron Von Spongebob wrote on 14. May 2008 at 21:44: Get a pattern one..I like the ones with bunny rabbits on.. Thought you were into ferrets nowadays.
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Baron Von Spongebob Omega Baron Offline Living the dream Posts: 3015 South Wales Gender: Drives: Is the world ready for me..	Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets? Reply #13 - 14. May 2008 at 21:47 CaptainZok wrote on 14. May 2008 at 21:46: Baron Von Spongebob wrote on 14. May 2008 at 21:44: Get a pattern one..I like the ones with bunny rabbits on.. Thought you were into ferrets nowadays.
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Marks DTM Calib Administrator Offline Ex Member Posts: 25671 Northern Hemisphere Gender: Drives: Astra J, Mum Bus, Dexta Tractor, 108 DMU wip	Re: Genuine or Pattern gaskets? Reply #14 - 14. May 2008 at 21:48 lee4206 wrote on 14. May 2008 at 21:42: Use the pattern ones.. I rebuilt my head 3 years ago using a gasket set from partco/unipart inc cam cover and manifold gaskets and i have no leaks at all. I guess the 2.0lts arn't as prone to blowing the gaskets as the v6 ones. lee They are more prone!
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