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Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's...
02. Jun 2008 at 18:20

Just a quick question...

Both pre-facelift (mini) and facelift, they have a seperate ecu to control the central locking don't they??

Wondering what differences lie between the two, ie, are they inter-changeable so to get the 3-button fobs with boot release?? And also, any major differences with the loom for them??

Fitted a facelift boot to my elite earlier, everything works, even the boot release, but it pops the boot when the central locking is unlocked, so just wondering if its possible to retro-fit the new ecu to get seperate popping control, or if i'm best just hashing into the wiring and sorting something else out??

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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's... Reply #1 - 02. Jun 2008 at 18:59 Can't answer your question, as I don't know. Sorry. But be aware that the central locking is part of the alarm ECU if you have factory fitted alarm, and not a seperate ECU. If no factory fitted alarm, it has its own ECU.
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PaulW Omega Knight Offline Come on you fiend! Posts: 1998 53.25732, -2.52633 Gender: Drives: '51 Astra Eco4 & BMW R1200GSA	Re: Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's... Reply #2 - 02. Jun 2008 at 22:58 The whole thing is factory, alarm etc... Have the imob. codes to boot aswell on the little card. I'll try hunt down some sort of wiring schematics if I can find anything...
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Re: Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's.
Reply #3 - 02. Jun 2008 at 23:01

PaulW wrote on 02. Jun 2008 at 22:58:

The whole thing is factory, alarm etc... Have the imob. codes to boot aswell on the little card.

I'll try hunt down some sort of wiring schematics if I can find anything...

Wiring diags for 2002/2003 Omegas are on the later versions of TIS if you have access to that.

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PaulW Omega Knight Offline Come on you fiend! Posts: 1998 53.25732, -2.52633 Gender: Drives: '51 Astra Eco4 & BMW R1200GSA	Re: Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's... Reply #4 - 02. Jun 2008 at 23:08 Have an old copy somewhere on CD, aswell as the online section via the TC site (if i subscribe to it that is...)
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's... Reply #5 - 02. Jun 2008 at 23:13 PaulW wrote on 02. Jun 2008 at 23:08: Have an old copy somewhere on CD, aswell as the online section via the TC site (if i subscribe to it that is...) Wiring diags won't be on earlier CD ones, only the DVD ones from last couple of years
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PaulW Omega Knight Offline Come on you fiend! Posts: 1998 53.25732, -2.52633 Gender: Drives: '51 Astra Eco4 & BMW R1200GSA	Re: Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's... Reply #6 - 02. Jun 2008 at 23:16 Not got the dvd one then
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TheBoy Administrator Offline TBE has an MOT! Posts: 64817 Brackley, Northants Gender: Drives: 98 MV6, 03 Elite, 00 25, 89 ZX10	Re: Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's... Reply #7 - 02. Jun 2008 at 23:24 PaulW wrote on 02. Jun 2008 at 23:16: Not got the dvd one then Does this help? http://images.omegaowners.com/documents/atws/alarm2002.pdf (apologies its distorted - I'm tired, and need to go to bed)
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PaulW Omega Knight Offline Come on you fiend! Posts: 1998 53.25732, -2.52633 Gender: Drives: '51 Astra Eco4 & BMW R1200GSA	Re: Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's... Reply #8 - 05. Jun 2008 at 17:29 Helps for the facelift one thanks Just need to find one for the pre-facelift now...
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Re: Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's...
Reply #10 - 06. Jun 2008 at 08:10

Will steal my brothers Cheesy

But, if I was to experiment, and get a new ECU from a latter car... How would coding keys be done??

The multiplug where they connect to the loom looks exactly the same, so would I just need the new Imob code for the keys, and retain the original chip in the key??

I'm guessing (hoping) Tech2 will still talk to it...

Looking at getting this just to experiment with you see...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-CENTRAL-LOCKING-ECU-REMOTE_W0QQitemZ38...

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Re: Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's...
Reply #11 - 07. Jun 2008 at 09:52

PaulW wrote on 06. Jun 2008 at 08:10:

Will steal my brothers Cheesy

But, if I was to experiment, and get a new ECU from a latter car... How would coding keys be done??

The multiplug where they connect to the loom looks exactly the same, so would I just need the new Imob code for the keys, and retain the original chip in the key??

I'm guessing (hoping) Tech2 will still talk to it...

Looking at getting this just to experiment with you see...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-OPEL-OMEGA-CENTRAL-LOCKING-ECU-REMOTE_W0QQitemZ38...

if you use the fobs that came from new car, that should work i would have though Undecided

Immobiliser is seperate, and should be able to use old one.

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PaulW Omega Knight Offline Come on you fiend! Posts: 1998 53.25732, -2.52633 Gender: Drives: '51 Astra Eco4 & BMW R1200GSA	Re: Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's... Reply #12 - 10. Jun 2008 at 17:30 Cool I'll see what I can find soon enough at the scrappers... Or see if anyone is breaking a facelift, and get the bits I need!
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PaulW Omega Knight Offline Come on you fiend! Posts: 1998 53.25732, -2.52633 Gender: Drives: '51 Astra Eco4 & BMW R1200GSA	Re: Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's... Reply #13 - 09. Jul 2008 at 13:04 Just waiting on the ECU, fob and carpass card to arrive, so wondering if anyone might be able to shed any more light at all?? Cheers
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Marks DTM Calib Administrator Offline Ex Member Posts: 25671 Northern Hemisphere Gender: Drives: Astra J, Mum Bus, Dexta Tractor, 108 DMU wip	Re: Facelift & Pre-facelift central locking ecu's... Reply #14 - 09. Jul 2008 at 14:04 Yup Appears to be the same connector and much the same wiring (made some notes at home jsut after the lakes meet). The ultrasonic interface is different and the wiring to the boot lock solenoid is pretty much the same. One extra wire for the switch and a few feed changes to.
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