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Kevin Wood
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As promised, some LPG pictures
21. Jul 2008 at 23:18
 
As promised, some pictures from my LPG installation.

Firstly, the bits that make up the kit:

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The ECU

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The wiring loom

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LPG level indicator, switch and warning buzzer

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Measurement Tee with vapour temperature sensor and MAP / Vapour pressure sensor

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CD containing the mapping software

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Cable (USB) to connect the ECU to a PC for setting up

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LPG injector rails along with a bag of nozzles to go in the manifold and other assorted fittings.

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Vapour filter (also splits the vapour feed to the 2 injector rails).

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More fittings, cable ties, etc.

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Various pipes for coolant, vacuum, lpg vapour and the liquid feed from the tank

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Strip steel of various sizes for making up brackets.

Watch this space for more pictures of the conversion.

NOTE: Vapouriser is not pictured here as it arrived later...
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Re: As promised, some LPG pictures
Reply #1 - 21. Jul 2008 at 23:28
 
So, on to the fitting, and we start with fitting the nozzles to the manifold:

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Grind a little flat to start with
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Drill the hole, starting small and opening out to 5mm.
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Completed hole
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A bit of cutting paste on the tap
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.. and tap the hole
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Clean up around the back of the hole so the nozzle has somewhere to seat.
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Insert the nozzle with a little threadlock
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A 3mm drill bit or allen key helps with alignment to avoid cross-threading.
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One down, five to go.
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Clean up the area around the nozzle to help airflow.
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Position of nozzles as they emerge.
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Smooth off the face of the manifold, especially where the gasket seals.

To Be Continued...
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Reply #2 - 21. Jul 2008 at 23:47
 
Some more pictures of the nozzles in the manifold:

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.. and the swarf that I washed off it afterwards. This is why you don't let a cowboy drill them in-situ. Shocked

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The "helter skelter" pipe is cut to take the return flow from the vapouriser from the driver's side of the engine.
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A 90 degree fitting is used to remove the plumbing that went to the auxiliary coolant pump. (removed to make way for the vapouriser).
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HBV and helter skelter in position. Feed to the vapouriser is from the coolant bridge via a 90 degree connector.
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Manifold back in place, with LPG pipes on the nozzles.
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Plenty of space once it's back in place.
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.. add the piggy back wiring for the injectors and it's getting a bit more busy. Cable tray for the original injector loom has been discarded to make space (take care to get all the injector signals the right way round or it's plenum off to correct it later. Roll Eyes)
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Driver's side LPG injectors installed.
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Wiring for RPM feed, power and Lambda sensors runs across the front under the bonnet slam panel and into a hole in the front of the fuse box.
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Connectors on the DBW ECUs are fearsome. Best to intercept the wires upstream!
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Mounting of the gas ECU under the driver's side wing below airbox where the self levelling pump would otherwise be.
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..and, finally, for this instalment, mounting of the level indicator, switch and buzzer. The DBW cars have a handy grommet where the throttle cable would normally be. Very handy for routing the wiring through.

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Reply #3 - 21. Jul 2008 at 23:58
 
All those pics Kevin and photobucket has crashed Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #4 - 22. Jul 2008 at 00:11
 
A tidy install Kev, it's all becoming a bit second nature, now Cheesy
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Reply #5 - 22. Jul 2008 at 09:22
 
Well done great pics to Kev.

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Reply #6 - 22. Jul 2008 at 09:53
 
Tidy installation, you should send the pictures to some of the cowboy installers out there.
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Reply #7 - 22. Jul 2008 at 10:23
 
A few more pictures and explanation I can do it myself  Grin Thumbs Up!
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Reply #8 - 22. Jul 2008 at 11:00
 
... and a few more pictures of the rest of the install I took this morning:

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Location of the passenger's side injector rail.

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Vacuum feed from the neck of the plenum Teed to the pressure sensor and the reference port on the vapouriser.

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.. and stand back and see what the engine bay looks like. Not too badly butchered, I hope.

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The measurement tee, pressure sensor and vapour filter are visible here, tucked away behind the driver's side injector rail.

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And you can just about make out the vapouriser on the driver's side inner wing below the coolant header tank.

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Plumbing (coolant and vapour) to the vapouriser from the rear of the engine.


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Here you can just make out the liquid feed into the vapouriser and the polyflex hose curled up under the master cylinder to exit the wing through an existing hole near the petrol lines.

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Here you can see the liquid pipe from the tank running up adjacent to the petrol lines.

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Liquid feed and gauge / gas valve wiring as it enters the boot space, and also two of the tank frame mounting bolts with spacer plates under them (and plenty of waxoyl!).

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Other side tank frame mountings. I came out a bit close to a hole in the frame here so an additional bit of metal was fabricated to spread the load.

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Filler pipe as it's routed along the towbar. This will need improving! 4 hole filler lines are rubber hose, almost like hydraulic lines with JIC unions crimped to the end. The downside to this is that you need one the right length. 2m was perfect in my case. The kit came with a 1.5m pipe which wasn't going to work.

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.. and here's the filler mounted on the towbar. It's ugly but so's the towbar. Sad A necessary evil for me.

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The tank.

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Wiring for the gauge and tank valve. LPGA state that wiring should be soldered and heat shrink sleeved.

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Completed wiring in airtight housing.
You can see the 4 holes in the tank here. From left to right: liquid outlet with tank valve solenoid, Pressure relief valve, gauge, filler valve.

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.. and a view from the back seat. This tank is a comfortable fit. Plenty of room all round. A bigger tank would go, of course, but it gets more tricky to fit.

Well, that about covers it.

Kevin
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Reply #9 - 22. Jul 2008 at 16:44
 
Some good pictures there - I kept my coolant pump and mounted the evaporator under the air box.

Towtrust towbar - like mine Grin Grin

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Re: As promised, some LPG pictures
Reply #10 - 22. Jul 2008 at 16:53
 
Excellent pics Kevin Thumbs Up!

I placed my nozzles higher up the trumpet, like some of the older ideas. Will this be ok or is the way you have done it the way to go Undecided Sad
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Reply #11 - 22. Jul 2008 at 19:01
 
Looks very clean and tidy Kevin... I like the idea of running the liquid feed line out of the airtight box and then back through... I was trying to work out the best way to get it back over to the o/s of the car!!!  I suppose that should also fulfill the LPGA requirement of slack at the tank end too!  Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up!

Oh, and I see you've ended up securing the tank to the chassis rail... Did you put anything inside or just use the spreader plates? (which I assume were supplied?) I don't see any real need to pack the chassis rail as long as you don't tighten it like a gorilla!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - 22. Jul 2008 at 22:11
 
Very nicely done, Kevin Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up!
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Reply #13 - 22. Jul 2008 at 22:26
 
I must say that looks great and i am just waiting now to see how the Holy Count gets on with his system and then i may just put one in my 3.0. Also my friend who looks after my car is moving to a bigger garage soon and will have a second ramp and has said i can use this to fit a gas system if i like. How long would you say it would take to fit on your own Smiley
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Reply #14 - 22. Jul 2008 at 22:34
 
Very nice work  Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up! Thumbs Up!

(and good photo's too - good basis for an LPG How to !!)

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195 miles .... £22.07 cost of gas   (mind you it was cheaper up there than down here .. Sad  )
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