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Re: As promised, some LPG pictures
Reply #30 - 29. Jul 2008 at 10:25
 
No probem. Thumbs Up!

He got those nozzles close to the petrol injectors. Shocked

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Reply #31 - 29. Jul 2008 at 10:42
 
Very close indeed. I know that nozzles should be fitted at max 75 degree. Mine are different so I cant place them so close Sad
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Reply #32 - 07. Aug 2008 at 11:19
 
mkaminski100 wrote on 29. Jul 2008 at 08:40:
Kevin – excellent job. Professional job and professional guide. Is there a chance to stick it as a guide?
Do you mind Kev if I will also post it on polish forum? It’s a great chance to see how it should be installed. I could bribe you with this Wink http://www.myomega.ovh.org/podstrony/porady/landirenzoomegas/dysze_kolektor/dysz...

Would prefer it if you simply linked to this page, if that is at all possible Smiley
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Reply #33 - 07. Aug 2008 at 12:04
 
TheBoy wrote on 07. Aug 2008 at 11:19:
mkaminski100 wrote on 29. Jul 2008 at 08:40:
Kevin – excellent job. Professional job and professional guide. Is there a chance to stick it as a guide?
Do you mind Kev if I will also post it on polish forum? It’s a great chance to see how it should be installed. I could bribe you with this Wink http://www.myomega.ovh.org/podstrony/porady/landirenzoomegas/dysze_kolektor/dysz...

Would prefer it if you simply linked to this page, if that is at all possible Smiley

I wouldnt copy anything from one place to another without adding a source. Only a link was supplied. I hope this is ok.
http://forum.omegaklub.eu/viewtopic.php?t=17431
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Reply #34 - 07. Aug 2008 at 12:13
 
<paranoid> Plugs the page into a translator so see what they're saying about me.</Paranoid>

I think someone mentioned the brand of tank. My tank appears to be made by a company called GZWM. (Grodkowskie Zakłady Wyrobów Metalowych S.A.).

Sounds like it might mean more to you than me, Marcin. Wink

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Reply #35 - 07. Aug 2008 at 12:26
 
http://www.gzwm.com.pl/strona/about_us
As requested. I never heard about them, but it doesn’t mean that their tanks are not good. I think it’s an old company specialized in fire extinguisher production but now they had a chance to go into car industry. I also assume that most of their production is exported to UK, Belgium, Holland where I found similar tanks. Your level gage is better secured than in STAKO tank. Apart from that they are same.

I didn’t thought that your tank is also made in Poland. I have mentioned that you have different tank, but STAG (most popular in PL) is popular in UK as well.
I also teased them about DIY conversion as it it illegal in my country. It has to be installed by approved installer with proper certificates. We also have to inform equivalen of DVLA.
Guys were asking about your tow bar because in Germany it has to be detachable at any time. In Poland it’s not required but yours is something between – you can take it off but need to take nuts and bolts before.
I also added info about your tank. Smiley
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Reply #36 - 07. Aug 2008 at 14:03
 
mkaminski100 wrote on 07. Aug 2008 at 12:26:
Guys were asking about your tow bar because in Germany it has to be detachable at any time. In Poland it’s not required but yours is something between – you can take it off but need to take nuts and bolts before.
I also added info about your tank. Smiley


Interesting... Mine is the traditional UK style tow bar which dates back from a time when we had imperial sized balls (quiet at the back!) in addition to the 50mm metric ones. You can obviously change the ball if necessary. Only in the last 10-15 years have the swan neck style become more popular.

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Reply #37 - 22. Aug 2008 at 23:16
 
Thought I'd add a few last pictures. The mapping software:
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The main settings where we configure the type of engine, the criteria for switching from and to petrol and so on. On the right hand side are the live data variables from the LPG ECU which are updated continuously while the software is talking to the ECU.

The little injector - shaped images below the live variables can be used to switch individual cylinders between petrol and LPG. Very useful if you're looking for a cylinder that's misfiring.

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The map. This is where the main adjustment of the fuelling on LPG is made. The orange line represents the factor by which the injector opening time (and hence desired fuel delivery) from the main ECU is multiplied when used to determine how much LPG to inject.

The green and blue curves (almost on top of each other - as they should be) represent the observed injector duration from the main ECU under various load conditions. Essentially, mapping is the process by which the orange line is adjusted to try to match the green curve with the blue curve.

At the bottom of the display a selection of the live data variables can be plotted against time, and the trace can be saved for later analysis. Useful for finding issues that only occur on the road.
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Reply #38 - 23. Aug 2008 at 20:41
 
How far can you push the engine as far as tuning go's (Turbos / Supercharging) when running on LPG ????
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Reply #39 - 23. Aug 2008 at 21:31
 
Kevin, did you add extra multiplier points for the mapping? I only seem to get the 2 from auto cal and 4 in between. I think I might well try adding some more and remap it Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided
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Reply #40 - 26. Aug 2008 at 19:50
 
Kevin, today I showed your LPG conversion pictures to my mechanic friends..They are really impressed by your work..And the first sentence they said "this man is professional"  Thumbs Up!
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Reply #41 - 30. Aug 2008 at 00:51
 
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How far can you push the engine as far as tuning go's (Turbos / Supercharging) when running on LPG ????


It's a high octane fuel so as far as you can on Petrol and then some. If you inject it as a vapour you will always get slightly less power but can run more compression / boost due to the higher octane.

Inject it as a liquid, however....  It will have real potential when liquid injection becomes more widespread IMHO.

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Kevin, did you add extra multiplier points for the mapping? I only seem to get the 2 from auto cal and 4 in between. I think I might well try adding some more and remap it


Yes, you can add more points to the map. Right click on the orange line where you want one IIRC.

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Embarrassed Hmm. This man doesn't take photos of things he's ashamed of.

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Reply #42 - 30. Aug 2008 at 01:17
 
Kevin, have you ever managed to get the fuel gauge to work properly, no matter what i do i cannot get mine to read anything aside from full or empty.

Cracking pics BTW
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Reply #43 - 30. Aug 2008 at 12:24
 
Mine works fine, but the gauge is different as it's a 4 hole tank.

I would find out what resistance your gauge is and configure the ECU accordingly then, if you have 250 miles of range on the tank, for example, go into the software after 50,100,150 and 200 miles and note down the voltage from the sensor. You then have the threshold voltage to set for each LED step on the display.

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Reply #44 - 30. Aug 2008 at 15:55
 
I convereted to lpg about 1200 miles ago and everything has been fine until this week when the engine management light came on and it keeps putting the car in safe running mode. 

Does anyone know if there is a particular sensor that might be causing this and can you it be adjusted or reset?

thanks Carl
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