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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
Reply #105 - 09. Mar 2009 at 11:49

chrisgixer wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 11:38:

MikeDundee wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 10:38:

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 10:35:

chrisgixer wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 10:10:

how many miles on Micks car, just out of interest?

And are these seals likely to be prematurely effected by alternative fuel like lpg?

I dont recall, about 100K ish.

They are bad though, I have never before been able to remove a stem seal with my fingers and the valves just fall through them once the collets are removed!

It appears as if the rubber is not oil tolerant which is pretty piss poor given where they spend there working life!

Might get a few valves cleaned up tonight so will post some further pics.

Might also get the head initialy de-greased ready for some work.

Mileage is just under 120k Thumbs Up!

Can you remember the mileage when the cat code first came on? Probably a better indication of the seals life.

My car is 8 years old this month, and has done 111,000 miles roughly

It started about a year ago, so I'd say life around 7 years/100,000 miles

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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
Reply #106 - 09. Mar 2009 at 12:32

Martin Imber wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 11:49:

chrisgixer wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 11:38:

MikeDundee wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 10:38:

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 10:35:

chrisgixer wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 10:10:

how many miles on Micks car, just out of interest?

And are these seals likely to be prematurely effected by alternative fuel like lpg?

I dont recall, about 100K ish.

They are bad though, I have never before been able to remove a stem seal with my fingers and the valves just fall through them once the collets are removed!

It appears as if the rubber is not oil tolerant which is pretty piss poor given where they spend there working life!

Might get a few valves cleaned up tonight so will post some further pics.

Might also get the head initialy de-greased ready for some work.

Mileage is just under 120k Thumbs Up!

Can you remember the mileage when the cat code first came on? Probably a better indication of the seals life.

My car is 8 years old this month, and has done 111,000 miles roughly

It started about a year ago, so I'd say life around 7 years/100,000 miles

6 years 73k no codes.... Yet..... Lips Sealed

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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
Reply #107 - 09. Mar 2009 at 13:12

chrisgixer wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 12:32:

6 years 73k no codes.... Yet..... Lips Sealed

My light first came on at about 48-50K at a guess. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say that it was constantly on by 60K, now on 80K and still on.

Never seen signs of stem seal trouble though. Oil consumption is zero, inlet valve stems are certainly clean and dry (although they will be regularly washed with petrol so not a reliable indicator). Haven't noticed any smoke at startup but will keep an eye out...

Kevin

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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
Reply #108 - 09. Mar 2009 at 13:18

Kevin Wood wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 13:12:

chrisgixer wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 12:32:

6 years 73k no codes.... Yet..... Lips Sealed

My light first came on at about 48-50K at a guess. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and say that it was constantly on by 60K, now on 80K and still on.

Never seen signs of stem seal trouble though. Oil consumption is zero, inlet valve stems are certainly clean and dry (although they will be regularly washed with petrol so not a reliable indicator). Haven't noticed any smoke at startup but will keep an eye out...

Kevin

What years yours again, 52 plate 03 similar to mine iirc? Did it start before lpg conversion?

Ps been after a bore scope or a while, anyone know where to get one for sensable money?

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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
Reply #109 - 09. Mar 2009 at 13:38

chrisgixer wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 13:18:

What years yours again, 52 plate 03 similar to mine iirc? Did it start before lpg conversion?

Ps been after a bore scope or a while, anyone know where to get one for sensable money?

Yep. Early MY '03 like yours.

Was lit before LPG conversion. Incidentally, at one point during the LPG conversion work I accidentally swapped the connections to injectors 3 and 4 and during the time I was driving it like this (didn't make any difference to running on petrol) the light went out! Undecided

Kevin

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SP_3.2 Omega Baron Offline Posts: 2042 Leicester Gender: Drives: A8 3.7 QS 2000	Re: Off with its head (s)!!! Reply #110 - 09. Mar 2009 at 13:43 Mine is a 02 and the light came on at about 130k or so. No lost of oil or smoke that i can see. Off now with moving the 02s. Will keep an eye on this one. P.s now upto 170k
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VXL V6 Omega Lord Offline Posts: 5306 Gender:	Re: Off with its head (s)!!! Reply #111 - 09. Mar 2009 at 13:51 TBH the Registration number isn't a good guide, ideally you need to know the engine numbers involved because there is a specific range of engines that were affected.
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Marks DTM Calib Administrator Offline Ex Member Posts: 25671 Northern Hemisphere Gender: Drives: Astra J, Mum Bus, Dexta Tractor, 108 DMU wip	Re: Off with its head (s)!!! Reply #112 - 09. Mar 2009 at 13:52 Its possible its a 2001 model year issue only then and might be 2.6 only. We will see what Geff says! I need to drill the holes to re-locate the O2 sensors later to.
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VXL V6 Omega Lord Offline Posts: 5306 Gender:	Re: Off with its head (s)!!! Reply #113 - 09. Mar 2009 at 13:54 I'm sure when I spoke to Geoff he said it was only 2.6's. Difficult chap to get hold of at the moment as he's 'on manouvres'
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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
Reply #114 - 09. Mar 2009 at 14:37

Andy B wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 00:00:

cem wrote on 08. Mar 2009 at 23:52:

so I deserve to be the most stupid member medal Grin

Is Otosan still a company? Maybe cheaper motoring. Grin

sorry for the late answer, last night gone sleep with a headache (as from the neighbours Angry

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and today was very busy.. phone never stop..

yep..otosan is still a company.. making fords.. and exporting them..

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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
Reply #115 - 09. Mar 2009 at 14:41

HerefordElite wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 00:09:

cem wrote on 08. Mar 2009 at 23:57:

HerefordElite wrote on 08. Mar 2009 at 23:55:

good news Mehmet exchange rate is better at moment 750TRY = only 296GBP Cheesy

Sure anyone on here would sort parts and postage for you if you need bits Thumbs Up!

problem is the GBP part is fix TRY part changes so they profit more Embarrassed

oh sorry got the exchange rate the wrong way round Embarrassed

£350 is 885TRY Shocked

Just ask on here and i for one would be happy to try and source bits for you Thumbs Up!

Thanks Herefordelite Thumbs Up!

cheers..

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Re: Off with its head (s)!!!
Reply #116 - 09. Mar 2009 at 21:50

Ok, bit of valve cleaning this evening!

So, mount the first valve (inlet in this case) in the pillar drill (although an oridinary drill in a vice or workmate would also work) set to a nice low speed

A nice grotty one to!

A course emery used to remove all the crudd with universal lube added (spit!) followed by some 800 grit wet and dry with additional uni lube!

Much better!

So, one done!

And as they only take a few mins per valve, 12 are done in no time!

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Omega_Man Ex Member If all else fails, get out the oxy! Drives: Omega CDX 2.5 V6	Re: Off with its head (s)!!! Reply #117 - 09. Mar 2009 at 21:51 Very good results. Must remember that for the next time
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Elite Pete Omega King Offline My spider senses are tingling Posts: 17813 Northwich/Chester Gender: Drives: Facelift Wheezel,Breaking 2001 MV6	Re: Off with its head (s)!!! Reply #118 - 09. Mar 2009 at 21:55 Is any spit OK to use or has it got to be MarkDTM Spit
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Marks DTM Calib Administrator Offline Ex Member Posts: 25671 Northern Hemisphere Gender: Drives: Astra J, Mum Bus, Dexta Tractor, 108 DMU wip	Re: Off with its head (s)!!! Reply #119 - 09. Mar 2009 at 21:57 Elite Pete wrote on 09. Mar 2009 at 21:55: Is any spit OK to use or has it got to be MarkDTM Spit Most spit is OK, beware though, mother in law spit has a habit of dissolving all know substances. Stoke spit would probably just make the valve dirtier!
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