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Flat Battery would this method work to get in car
03. Apr 2009 at 19:48

Talked about this with Andy B and still not risked it ..If you have tow bar electrics fitted would it work if you plugged in a male socket into the main caravan/trailer connector on the tow bar & had it connected to a fully charged battery, would allow you to in effect ( to unlock the door with your remote ) as in theory its like jumping the car battery..
Just a thought if it could'nt possibly damage anything else (car electrics) I would try it, as then it would be no more flat battery lock outs Thumbs Up!

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BettyBlu Junior Member Offline Posts: 78 Drives: Irmscher MV6 3.0 Manual Estate	Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car Reply #1 - 03. Apr 2009 at 20:02 I really don't know the answer to that sorry but why not try turning the key in the lock?
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ballcock50 Junior Member Offline Posts: 216 South Wales Gender: Drives: Elite Estate	Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car Reply #2 - 03. Apr 2009 at 20:02 Can't see why it won't work if caravan socket has a permanent live you could put a small amp fuse on the supply as a precaution
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willyboy Omega Knight Offline Can Do !! Posts: 1286 Leeds. West Yorks Gender: Drives: 98.3.0 V6 Elite-or-99 2.0CD	Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car Reply #3 - 03. Apr 2009 at 20:08 BettyBlu wrote on 03. Apr 2009 at 20:02: I really don't know the answer to that sorry but why not try turning the key in the lock? Eck never thought of that
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ballcock50 Junior Member Offline Posts: 216 South Wales Gender: Drives: Elite Estate	Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car Reply #4 - 03. Apr 2009 at 20:24 If your locks are any thing like mine they've seized up through lack of use now I lube them and use the key just to keep them working.
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mark.adams Senior Member Offline Posts: 695 Cambridgeshire Gender: Drives: omega 2.2CD +LPG	Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car Reply #5 - 04. Apr 2009 at 13:10 Isn't that output switched via relay?? If so it wouldn't get to the battery as the relay would be inactive
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Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car
Reply #6 - 04. Apr 2009 at 13:28

mark.adams wrote on 04. Apr 2009 at 13:10:

Isn't that output switched via relay?? If so it wouldn't get to the battery as the relay would be inactive

One is, for your fridge & charging circuits but there should also be a permanent live for powering up the 'van from your car's battery.

http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/towbar_electrics.shtml
Sorry about the V word Roll Eyes

... the first diag I found Thumbs Up!

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mark.adams Senior Member Offline Posts: 695 Cambridgeshire Gender: Drives: omega 2.2CD +LPG	Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car Reply #7 - 04. Apr 2009 at 15:54 Andy B wrote on 04. Apr 2009 at 13:28: http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/towbar_electrics.shtml Sorry about the V word ... the first diag I found Wash your mouth out....
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Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car
Reply #8 - 04. Apr 2009 at 19:00

I posted a couple of picks on socket wiring diagrams just after I joined the forum regards this subject.

If I am right, the main (Single socket) is not live with out the ignition on.

However, on a twin socket setup there is a live and earth on socket 2 that is generally used for plugging the 12volt fridge into. Thumbs Up!

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Mr Skrunts Over Active Poster Offline 3.O Elite Saloon with all the toys, Posts: 23830 Skruntie Land. Gender: Drives: Jimbob Mad It seems	Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car Reply #9 - 04. Apr 2009 at 19:02 Just found these I had annother diagrsam but that seems to have gone. May have had the 2nd socket wiring on it. Just seen the Chevy writing, so not 100% if US is same as UK wirring.
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Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car
Reply #10 - 04. Apr 2009 at 19:05

Mr Skrunts wrote on 04. Apr 2009 at 19:00:

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If I am right, the main (Single socket) is not live with out the ignition on.

The 12N is just for road lighting

Mr Skrunts wrote on 04. Apr 2009 at 19:00:

However, on a twin socket setup there is a live and earth on socket 2 that is generally used for plugging the 12volt fridge into. Thumbs Up!

12S is for caravan electrics but look at the link I posted. The fridge connection is only live with the engine running but there is/should be another for powering up the 'van if the 'van's battery fails.

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Mr Skrunts Over Active Poster Offline 3.O Elite Saloon with all the toys, Posts: 23830 Skruntie Land. Gender: Drives: Jimbob Mad It seems	Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car Reply #11 - 04. Apr 2009 at 19:06 http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/attachments/f9/4407d1199911273-plug-tow-bar-electr... http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&cr=countryUK\|countryGB&um=1&ei=bqHXSZySA...
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Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car
Reply #12 - 04. Apr 2009 at 19:07

Mr Skrunts wrote on 04. Apr 2009 at 19:02:

Just found these

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I had annother diagrsam but that seems to have gone. May have had the 2nd socket wiring on it.

Just seen the Chevy writing, so not 100% if US is same as UK wirring.

They're for road lighting. Both 12N & 12S are on the Vovlo link I posted!! Huh

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Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car
Reply #13 - 04. Apr 2009 at 19:23

you have to be careful, as it depends how it was connected to a live. i've had cars that its connected to an ignition live like the fuel pump......

i can normally get in mine when teh bats flat or disconnected through the boot which you can open with the key if you turn it an extra bit, but that does depend on if you've locked the ski hatch.. if not then you can reach the seat fold button and climb trough to open the bonnet

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Re: Flat Battery would this method work to get in car
Reply #14 - 04. Apr 2009 at 19:55

vauxmad wrote on 04. Apr 2009 at 19:23:

you have to be careful, as it depends how it was connected to a live. i've had cars that its connected to an ignition live like the fuel pump......

i can normally get in mine when teh bats flat or disconnected through the boot which you can open with the key if you turn it an extra bit, but that does depend on if you've locked the ski hatch.. if not then you can reach the seat fold button and climb trough to open the bonnet

The Omega's rear seats look to be the same locking mechanism as the Senator's were, and you can flip them from the boot .... been there & done that from a fully dead-locked car.
If you have opened the boot though, you can power up the car via the boot light .... done that too. Wink

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