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Andy B Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 21988 Bury Lancs Gender: Drives: 1999 3.0 Elite auto/TDM	Re: New bike test comes a cropper Reply #15 - 27. May 2009 at 21:12 unlucky alf wrote on 27. May 2009 at 18:28: & dont forget smegmatt that the weights & measures have already been changed, ...... Yes. We very quietly lost or 1/5 or 1/6 of a gill of spirits , is 25 ml bigger or smaller?
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Re: New bike test comes a cropper
Reply #16 - 27. May 2009 at 21:45

I got a little caught out by Ireland going metric.

Came off the ferry at Rosslaire speed limit 100.

Too much traffic to get much over 80.

Then the customer at Wexford I was visiting told me it was in km/h.

I actually don't use metric, don't like the units very much, stupid things like km/h and cl ect ect.

Yes I use litres, kilogrammes, metres, seconds, newtons ect.

The SI system.

Nothing wrong with speed in ms^-1 Grin

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Re: New bike test comes a cropper
Reply #17 - 27. May 2009 at 23:12

I recall reading in MCN many years ago that France had a similar test that involved riding through a "greasy road" section. This was until a woman was killed on the test. There were calls to have it removed from the test but they were ignored, so the site was dug up overnight.
The authorities re-layed the section. The following night it was dug up with mechanical diggers.
The "greasy road" ride was soon removed from the test Grin

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Kevin Wood Global Moderator Admin Team Offline Posts: 20377 Alton, Hampshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 MV6 (LPG), Westfield	Re: New bike test comes a cropper Reply #18 - 28. May 2009 at 09:16 Martin Imber wrote on 27. May 2009 at 21:45: I got a little caught out by Ireland going metric. Came off the ferry at Rosslaire speed limit 100. Too much traffic to get much over 80. ... Go over about 45 on the roads there and your fillings drop out. Kevin
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Re: New bike test comes a cropper
Reply #19 - 28. May 2009 at 09:25

Kevin Wood wrote on 28. May 2009 at 09:16:

Martin Imber wrote on 27. May 2009 at 21:45:

I got a little caught out by Ireland going metric.

Came off the ferry at Rosslaire speed limit 100.

Too much traffic to get much over 80.

...

Go over about 45 on the roads there and your fillings drop out. Wink

Kevin

I thought the main road out of the port was OK.

Last time I went there (Punt->Earhole conversion) the ferry was diverted to Dublin, took me 4 hours to drive back to Wexford (near Rosslaire) and the driving was a bit scarey, luckily I had a big car to bully back with.

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Kevin Wood Global Moderator Admin Team Offline Posts: 20377 Alton, Hampshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 MV6 (LPG), Westfield	Re: New bike test comes a cropper Reply #20 - 28. May 2009 at 09:30 I'm guessing you had a bit more suspension travel then me. It's "a bit scarey" at times, all right, but the traffic on the twisty lanes is non-existent. Kevin
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Re: New bike test comes a cropper
Reply #21 - 28. May 2009 at 09:36

I think its about time the car learning / testing procedure got a bit harder.

Seems daft that anyone once they get a provisional license can get in a car and do anything but motorway with no training! Shocked

IMHO
It should be
1. Pass Theory Test
2. Pass CBT
3. Get Issued provisional license for normal learning
4. Take (extended) test, pass and get limited power license, display new driver plates.
5. 2 years later, if history ok, get full license.

Trouble is I suppose, enough people drive around illegally already, make it harder and more will likely follow Cry

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Re: New bike test comes a cropper
Reply #22 - 28. May 2009 at 10:35

Andy B wrote on 27. May 2009 at 21:12:

Yes. We very quietly lost or 1/5 or 1/6 of a gill of spirits Huh

, is 25 ml bigger or smaller? Undecided

1/6 gill is 23.7ml, so we gained slightly on that.

Jimbob wrote on 28. May 2009 at 09:36:

I think its about time the car learning / testing procedure got a bit harder.

There was nothing really wrong with the original test IMO, the problem (if anything) is lack of common sense (something we all suffered from when we got a full license at 17).

What gets my goat is that we restrict 17 year olds to 12BHP if they want to ride a bike, yet if that same 17 year old wants to get behind the wheel of daddy's 300BHP Porsche, there is nothing to stop them legally doing so.

I personally think the driving test should consist of spending a day driving in London, using an old 325 BMW (or other similar heavy, powerful, rear wheel drive car) with absolutely no driving aids (eg, ABS, Traction Control, etc) at all....and if you make it through the day without f**king anybody else (or yourself) up then you've passed.

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Re: New bike test comes a cropper
Reply #23 - 28. May 2009 at 10:41

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Andy B wrote on 27. May 2009 at 21:12:

Yes. We very quietly lost or 1/5 or 1/6 of a gill of spirits Huh

, is 25 ml bigger or smaller? Undecided

1/6 gill is 23.7ml, so we gained slightly on that.

Jimbob wrote on 28. May 2009 at 09:36:

I think its about time the car learning / testing procedure got a bit harder.

There was nothing really wrong with the original test IMO, the problem (if anything) is lack of common sense (something we all suffered from when we got a full license at 17).

What gets my goat is that we restrict 17 year olds to 12BHP if they want to ride a bike, yet if that same 17 year old wants to get behind the wheel of daddy's 300BHP Porsche, there is nothing to stop them legally doing so.

I personally think the driving test should consist of spending a day driving in London, using an old 325 BMW (or other similar heavy, powerful, rear wheel drive car) with absolutely no driving aids (eg, ABS, Traction Control, etc) at all....and if you make it through the day without f**king anybody else (or yourself) up then you've passed.

Think you have watched "Death Race 2000" to many times 20watt Grin

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Re: New bike test comes a cropper
Reply #24 - 28. May 2009 at 10:43

unlucky alf wrote on 27. May 2009 at 18:28:

& dont forget smegmatt that the weights & measures have already been changed, also dont forget that little blue bit on number plates with the EU flag on, amazing how these appeared before brown the clown signed us over Angry

, anyhow ive thrown my plates away & replaced with non EU badged ones Thumbs Up!

i didnt vote for it so i dont advertise it,,,,,rant over Sad

I think thats a bit much, I like them, saves buying GB stickers when I drive to Holland!

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KillerWatt Ex Member	Re: New bike test comes a cropper Reply #25 - 28. May 2009 at 10:44 Darth Loo-knee wrote on 28. May 2009 at 10:41: Think you have watched "Death Race 2000" to many times 20watt PMSL Seriously though, all this theory crap is just that, it's crap. Anybody can talk a good job, actually doing it is something else altogether.
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Darth Loo-knee Moderator Offline "If you only knew how much he likes Backsides!" Posts: 20248 Stoke-on-Trent Gender: Drives: An Omega in the Pipeline.....	Re: New bike test comes a cropper Reply #26 - 28. May 2009 at 10:45 Quote: Darth Loo-knee wrote on 28. May 2009 at 10:41: Think you have watched "Death Race 2000" to many times 20watt PMSL Seriously though, all this theory crap is just that, it's crap. Anybody can talk a good job, actually doing it is something else altogether. I do agree with that
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Re: New bike test comes a cropper
Reply #27 - 28. May 2009 at 18:00

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Andy B wrote on 27. May 2009 at 21:12:

Yes. We very quietly lost or 1/5 or 1/6 of a gill of spirits Huh

, is 25 ml bigger or smaller? Undecided

1/6 gill is 23.7ml, so we gained slightly on that.

Jimbob wrote on 28. May 2009 at 09:36:

I think its about time the car learning / testing procedure got a bit harder.

There was nothing really wrong with the original test IMO, the problem (if anything) is lack of common sense (something we all suffered from when we got a full license at 17).

What gets my goat is that we restrict 17 year olds to 12BHP if they want to ride a bike, yet if that same 17 year old wants to get behind the wheel of daddy's 300BHP Porsche, there is nothing to stop them legally doing so.

I personally think the driving test should consist of spending a day driving in London, using an old 325 BMW (or other similar heavy, powerful, rear wheel drive car) with absolutely no driving aids (eg, ABS, Traction Control, etc) at all....and if you make it through the day without f**king anybody else (or yourself) up then you've passed.

And then do similar with motorways,not allowed on them until you have taken a seperate test to prove you have the ability/confidence to drive/ride at high speed.Then remove the upper speed limit on motorways. Cool

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