Albs wrote on 28. May 2009 at 23:57:



Hmm, Farage is no dope. It's a very straightforward claim. Either Article 2 does preclude Blacks and Asians or it doesn't. If it doesn't, it would be a might y big porky to tell a week before the elections.

Albs wrote on 29. May 2009 at 00:12:


Yes, Albs, me too. It makes a big difference (not that they would have got my vote anyway), but it is important to know if you're discussing politics.  

Nickbat wrote on 29. May 2009 at 00:14:


They requires that all members must be members of the "Indigenous Caucasian" racial group. The party does not regard non-white people as being ethnically British, even if they have been born in the UK and are naturalised British citizens.

Whites only, (sorry Gurkhas - wrong colour chaps)

they really are a bunch of nazis i'm afraid whether people have to pretend they're not to stomach voting for them is a matter for their conscience 

Frankly I have difficulty believing some of what's written here.

The hatred piled on the BNP by some is the same as the hatred piled on foreigners by the BNP. The BNP says that foreigners are a threat, whilst others say that the BNP is a threat. The common denominator is, sadly, hatred.

As I said earlier on here, the Nazis were national socialists and were united by Hitler through hatred of Jews, Gypsies and anyone considered non-Ayrian. It is simply bonkers to equate the BNP with gas chambers and the like. Yes, their policies are not supported by me, but I can quite understand why they attract support. The non-thinking politically-unmotivated classes are attracted by the prospect of a return to a Great Britain. Intrinsically, there's no harm in that, since a patriotic nation will work harder for the common good. The mainstream parties and the liberal elite have done their utmost to belittle the UK and its people and make them subservient to the EU. A nation needs common aspirations, so that's that's what they look for in these difficult times.

The BNP's policies of repatriation are wrong for a variety of reasons, but no one should be under any illusion that immigration is not a major issue amongst large swathes of the electorate. It has been wrongly shunned by all the mainstream parties and that has left a void, which the BNP are happy to fill, albeit with wrong policies.

The upcoming elections are mainly for MEPs (with some shire council elections as well). The BNP will not be elected in any numbers great enough to implement national policies, so all this talk of the UK turning into a clone of Nazi Germany is total hogwash. What a vote for a minor party will do, however, is to send a very strong signal to the mainstream political classes that a sea change is needed in British politics. It is now up to the three major parties to win back the disaffected voters and that will require, amongst other things, addressing the issue of immigration. They will not do that by merely slagging off the BNP, indeed they are likely to increase the BNP support. The political bile must cease, in order that we can have rational discussion about immigration, the EU and so on.

Within human groupings, people from other groups are usually welcomed, or at least tolerated, until such a situation occurs when the original group feels threatened or disadvantaged by the scale of the influx. It may not always be rational, but that it is a characteristic of human nature and to deny it is a big mistake.