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Zulu77

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Re: GM Bankruptcy
Reply #15 - 01. Jun 2009 at 14:39

Martin Imber wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 12:55:

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Marks DTM Calib wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 10:34:

Its interesting because Gm Europe have been turninga rpofite, so have Holden and a few more of teh 'focused' sub groups.

The US lot have been bloody idiots, sticking to what they ahev done for 100 years without looking at the changing market. They are only now considering introducing a small car (i.e. the Corsa which they already have designed !) and more diesel engines and smaller petrol engines.

To me, its not rocket science!

Thankfuly, the german government are securing the funding to keep GM europe going (they are not covered by chapter 11 protection as they are outside the US) until the takeover can be completed.

I was impressed by Lord Peter's attendance at the talks in Berlin Roll Eyes

to ensure that the voice of British concerns about the future of Vauxhall rang loudly enough Wink

Who?

You might very well ask, Martin Grin

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Zulu77 Ex Member	Re: GM Bankruptcy Reply #16 - 01. Jun 2009 at 14:41 Marks DTM Calib wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 10:45: Well considering they only have Ellsmere Port in the Uk knocking out Astras (Luton only has the offices, parts and a small special vehicles centre), there is not much to go! Agreed Mark - but enough to cause real difficulty to those depending on the jobs for their livelihood
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Zulu77

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Re: GM Bankruptcy
Reply #17 - 01. Jun 2009 at 14:46

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 12:19:

Kevin Wood wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 12:10:

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Marks DTM Calib wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 10:45:

Well considering they only have Ellsmere Port in the Uk knocking out Astras (Luton only has the offices, parts and a small special vehicles centre), there is not much to go!

I hope that's not the thought uppermost in their minds, and that governing the efforts to secure a relatively sound future up there Mark Undecided

.... in the negative sense of course Thumbs Up!

I would imagine it'll be a lot easier for them to ditch UK employees than German employees, especially as the German government are at least seen to be doing a darn sight more than Mandelson.

Kevin

Its easy to hire and fire in the Uk and a nightmare in Germany!

The Uk governemnt do little (if anything) to encourage and support manufacturing (its got worse in the last 10 years surprise surprise) so I would expect the Uk to get hit!

There you have it Mark Thumbs Up!

that's why we, as a country, have had our asses handed to us in terms of the disintegration of our manufacturing base Thumbs Up!

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Re: GM Bankruptcy
Reply #18 - 01. Jun 2009 at 14:49

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Marks DTM Calib wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 10:45:

Well considering they only have Ellsmere Port in the Uk knocking out Astras (Luton only has the offices, parts and a small special vehicles centre), there is not much to go!

Agreed Mark - but enough to cause real difficulty to those depending on the jobs for their livelihood Thumbs Up!

Yes but, not enough to have a great impact on the Uk voting as a whole!

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Zulu77

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Re: GM Bankruptcy
Reply #19 - 01. Jun 2009 at 14:50

Kevin Wood wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 12:30:

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 12:19:

Its easy to hire and fire in the Uk and a nightmare in Germany!

The Uk governemnt do little (if anything) to encourage and support manufacturing (its got worse in the last 10 years surprise surprise) so I would expect the Uk to get hit!

Agreed on both counts.

It's a good job we don't need manufacturing any more, having such a strong financial sector, etc... Lips Sealed

Kevin

I've just emptied my bladder again Grin

you nailed that one Kevin Smiley

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Martin Imber Over Active Poster Offline LPG Omega V6 - Keyfobs Rebuilt Posts: 20110 Worcester Gender: Drives: 2001 Omega 2.6CD LPG & 3.0 cams	Re: GM Bankruptcy Reply #20 - 01. Jun 2009 at 14:51 I had forgotten that the term Lord had been contaminated by it being used for reptiles
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Zulu77

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Re: GM Bankruptcy
Reply #21 - 01. Jun 2009 at 14:58

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 14:49:

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Marks DTM Calib wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 10:45:

Well considering they only have Ellsmere Port in the Uk knocking out Astras (Luton only has the offices, parts and a small special vehicles centre), there is not much to go!

Agreed Mark - but enough to cause real difficulty to those depending on the jobs for their livelihood Thumbs Up!

Yes but, not enough to have a great impact on the Uk voting as a whole!

You're on to it now Mark - welcome to the dark world of political cynicism and the to complete and utter baring of our buttocks once again to the avaricious eyes of the EU Thumbs Up!

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STMO123 Ex Member Gender:	Re: GM Bankruptcy Reply #22 - 01. Jun 2009 at 15:31 TheBoy wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 13:14: Possibly makes sense to close the head office at luton, concentrating on Ellesmere port, though I think they may struggle, as the track at Luton is a JV with another company Renault if I remember correctly and I believe that association ends in 2010.
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Zulu77

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Re: GM Bankruptcy
Reply #23 - 01. Jun 2009 at 16:31

STMO123 wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 15:31:

TheBoy wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 13:14:

Possibly makes sense to close the head office at luton, concentrating on Ellesmere port, though I think they may struggle, as the track at Luton is a JV with another company

Renault if I remember correctly and I believe that association ends in 2010.

The imperative factor which makes a strong case to be put by HMG for Ellesmere Port, a matter of the utmost urgency STMO Thumbs Up!

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Banjax Omega Lord Offline We're just a virus with shoes Posts: 5591 Perth Gender: Drives: '04 Subaru Legacy Sport, '03 406 diesel	Re: GM Bankruptcy Reply #24 - 01. Jun 2009 at 21:44 a nice reminder of some of the best (and worst) of GM - when they wanted to - they could make some beautiful machines ....made their fair share of buckets too, mind http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/06/01/automobiles/01GM_USER_SLIDESHOW_inde...
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Zulu77

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Re: GM Bankruptcy
Reply #25 - 01. Jun 2009 at 21:51

Banjax wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 21:44:

a nice reminder of some of the best (and worst) of GM - when they wanted to - they could make some beautiful machines Wink

....made their fair share of buckets too, mind Grin

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/06/01/automobiles/01GM_USER_SLIDESHOW_inde...

You're right enought bannjaxx, there were some nails made but there also some gems Thumbs Up!

Just right for the time and always for me, the epitomy of the open road, big country and freedom Cool

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Re: GM Bankruptcy
Reply #26 - 01. Jun 2009 at 22:39

Banjax wrote on 01. Jun 2009 at 21:44:

a nice reminder of some of the best (and worst) of GM - when they wanted to - they could make some beautiful machines Wink

....made their fair share of buckets too, mind Grin

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/06/01/automobiles/01GM_USER_SLIDESHOW_inde...

If I had somewhere to keep it .... and enough money to keep the tank filled at 8 mpg Huh

in another colour though Grin

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Zulu77 Ex Member	Re: GM Bankruptcy Reply #27 - 01. Jun 2009 at 22:54 And if it had the North Star V8 engine Andy
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