Most Greenies think that Big Oil is behind all these doubts over Gore's Global Warming scam. A little investigation reveals that Enron and others actually had a great deal to do with promoting the idea (...to make more bucks, of course).

I recommend this article, published a few days ago:

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/05/29/lawrence-s...

Actually Nick the question posed in my previous reply is rather easy to answer.............

The IPCC is currently starting to outline its Fifth Assessment Report (AR5) which will be finalized in 2014. As it has been the case in the past, the outline of the AR5 will be developed through a scoping process which involves climate change experts from all relevant disciplines and users of IPCC reports, in particular representatives from governments. As a first step, experts, governments and organizations involved in the Fourth Assessment Report have been asked to submit comments and observations in writing. These submissions are currently being analysed by members of the Bureau. The scoping meeting to define the outline of the AR5 is scheduled in Venice, Italy, for 13-17 July 2009 (attendance is by invitation only). The outline will be submitted to the 31st Session of the IPCC and Sessions of the three Working Groups, which will be held in Bali, Indonesia, 26-29 October 2009.

You can rest assured that there won't be even the slightest hint of a contrary opinion heard at that gathering

Main text  presently appears on IPCC website.

http://www.ipcc.ch/

Banjax wrote on 02. Jun 2009 at 23:12:


There isn't a tipping point.

The tipping point theory is based on positive feedback mechanisms in computer models (GCMs). In the real world, there is no scientific evidence for positive feedbacks; indeed, some have argued that CO2 may actually cause negative feedbacks.

If CO2-based positive feedback was true, the world would have boiled away ages ago when CO2 levels were much higher.

Tipping points don't exist, but they sure as hell frighten those who don't investigate the science... which, of course, is the whole point. 

Nickbat wrote on 02. Jun 2009 at 23:22:



The real tipping point in question Nick is where any form of objective assessment of the supposed science, has long since evaporated due to so much prejudicial information being released,  often with an agenda, to deliberately confuse the issue

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yep, Zulu - its almost impossible to find an unbiased opinion (and i've tried) 

All the concerns expressed over atmospheric Co2 levels may well amount to naught as other more serious factors begin to take precedence in the concern over this planets future. 

The cyclic nature solar activity, in its increased form, may well result in a much more deadly threat to this planet's atmosphere.

Should be one rate of car tax for all cars.

It should be down to usage and economy, ie fuel tax not a fixed rate.