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What would YOU have done?
14. Nov 2009 at 00:06

Interesting situation:

"The crew of a UK military ship watched as a British couple were taken hostage by Somali pirates but were ordered not to open fire, it has emerged.

The crew member revealed that the RFA Wave Knight had come within just 50ft (15m) of the couple's yacht, the Lynn Rival, at one point.

The RFA Wave Knight did not act for fear of endangering the couple's lives, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) said.

The pirates have issued a $7 million (£4.3 million) ransom demand but the British government has insisted it will not make any ransom payment."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8359575.stm

Imagine you're the captain of the Wave Knight. What would you have done?

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Nickbat Omega Lord Offline Posts: 7167 London NW7 Gender: Drives: 2002 2.6CD Auto	Re: What would YOU have done? Reply #1 - 14. Nov 2009 at 00:13 I know what I would have done...
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Vamps Omega King Offline Flying Tonight, so Be Prepared. Posts: 16571 Bishop Middleham, Co Durham. Gender: Drives: 2.0L Auto Estate & 2.2 CD Auto Saloon	Re: What would YOU have done? Reply #2 - 14. Nov 2009 at 00:19 I know what I would have done, the alternative is that the pirates win every time............
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Re: What would YOU have done?
Reply #3 - 14. Nov 2009 at 00:20

Service folk are disciplined to follow orders regardless & ther'e must be reasons why including the risk of harming those you're trying to save.
As regards what would i do, i'd attack the pirates with everything i had...which is why i'm a civilian. I'm afraid my heart rules my head & i'd steam in regardless, could'nt stop myself.
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CaptainZok Omega Lord Offline Pinky for PM Posts: 7301 Bolton Gender: Drives: 2000 MY 2.5 Elite	Re: What would YOU have done? Reply #4 - 14. Nov 2009 at 00:40 Vamps wrote on 14. Nov 2009 at 00:19: I know what I would have done, the alternative is that the pirates win every time............ Made em walk the plank in your naval days didn't you?
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Kevin Wood Global Moderator Admin Team Offline Posts: 20377 Alton, Hampshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 MV6 (LPG), Westfield	Re: What would YOU have done? Reply #5 - 14. Nov 2009 at 01:03 Apparently they didn't have a trained sniper on board. What about torpedos? Kevin
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Re: What would YOU have done?
Reply #6 - 14. Nov 2009 at 01:17

As I understand it, the concern was that any action taken would have put the couple in extreme danger .....

There is really not a lot of point in "rescuing" someone if it results in their death .... Sad

Perhaps it is a good job the RFA was manned by professionals (who know what they can and can't do) and not by members of OOF .....

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Desperate Den Omega King Offline Posts: 11881	Re: What would YOU have done? Reply #7 - 14. Nov 2009 at 08:58 They did the right thing by following orders - any such intervention, unless in a rapidly unfolding and confrontational situation, has to be well capitalised and planned for any hope of success.
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Guffer Omega Lord Offline Music to watch girls by.... Posts: 6142 Hampshire Gender: Drives: R Reg 2.5V6 Omega ELITE & P reg Omega 2.5 V6 CDX	Re: What would YOU have done? Reply #8 - 14. Nov 2009 at 09:11 can you have imagine the poo storm if they had opened fire and hurt the Brits?
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Plomien Omega Knight Offline Rescue the beer and drink the maiden Posts: 1724 Swansea Gender: Drives: 2.5 V6 Tourer	Re: What would YOU have done? Reply #9 - 14. Nov 2009 at 09:22 If they hadn't boarded the boat yet i would have shot the s$%^ out of the pirates but with them onboard the boat its safer to step back and make sure no-one gets hurt
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Re: What would YOU have done?
Reply #10 - 14. Nov 2009 at 09:39

from the reports the couple knew they were in dangerous waters, as it was well known it was a pirate area. Lots of forums have commented on why they were there?

In that situation i would have rammed the pirate ship, assuming its going to be very much smaller than the UK ship.... ram it, then when they are all swimming about, pick off the pirates one by one.

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Re: What would YOU have done?
Reply #11 - 14. Nov 2009 at 10:01

Entwood wrote on 14. Nov 2009 at 01:17:

As I understand it, the concern was that any action taken would have put the couple in extreme danger .....

There is really not a lot of point in "rescuing" someone if it results in their death .... Sad

Perhaps it is a good job the RFA was manned by professionals (who know what they can and can't do) and not by members of OOF .....

There is an interesting point here, which no one has picked up and that is the fact that this report was leaked to the press by a crew member. To me, that suggests a very disgruntled crew member. In turn, that suggests to me that - perhaps - an opportunity to rescue the couple was missed.

Maybe it took time to get a phone call through to the valid Health & Safety Department. Roll Eyes

Just speculating. Wink

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STMO123 Ex Member	Re: What would YOU have done? Reply #12 - 14. Nov 2009 at 10:08 Imagine trying to take someone out with a single shot, while sitting on a ship that is rolling (even slightly), and the target is bobbing all over the place. That's why they needed a trained sniper.
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jonnycool Omega Baron Offline We shag 'em, you eat 'em Posts: 2837 Merthyr Tydfil, S. Wales Gender: Drives: 2001 2.6 Elite Estate	Re: What would YOU have done? Reply #13 - 14. Nov 2009 at 10:11 Guffer wrote on 14. Nov 2009 at 09:11: can you have imagine the poo storm if they had opened fire and hurt the Brits? Exactly. Media would have been all over this like a rash
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Nickbat Omega Lord Offline Posts: 7167 London NW7 Gender: Drives: 2002 2.6CD Auto	Re: What would YOU have done? Reply #14 - 14. Nov 2009 at 10:27 Read elsewhere: "Still, you can imagine the conversation between the couple: "Oh thank f**k. A warship. We've saved." "No love, look again. It's one of ours..."
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