Omega Owners Forum

STMO123 Ex Member	Vowels 18. Nov 2009 at 14:58 No, Pete, vowels. My lad keeps going on about them. His teacher says a word must have a vowel and I say No. Rhythm, tryst, crypt etc. Then I come across this: http://www.phonicsontheweb.com/y-roles.php ARRGGHH!
Back to top	IP Logged

Guffer Omega Lord Offline Music to watch girls by.... Posts: 6142 Hampshire Gender: Drives: R Reg 2.5V6 Omega ELITE & P reg Omega 2.5 V6 CDX	Re: Vowels Reply #1 - 18. Nov 2009 at 15:00 Be careful of what 'official' info you find on the web, some portray opinions as fact. Try and find it from a more reliable source (Not wikipedia ffs)
Back to top	RIP Lisa, you will be missed IP Logged

Richie London Omega King Offline A HANDSOME DEVIL OF A MAN!! Posts: 10146 heathrow Gender: Drives: a blinking lovely 2001 2.5 elite auto.	Re: Vowels Reply #2 - 18. Nov 2009 at 15:45 Quote: No, Pete, vowels. My lad keeps going on about them. His teacher says a word must have a vowel and I say No. Rhythm, tryst, crypt etc. Then I come across this: http://www.phonicsontheweb.com/y-roles.php ARRGGHH! shy
Back to top	IP Logged

jereboam Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1675 Suffolk Gender: Drives: BLACK 1999 3.0 Elite	Re: Vowels Reply #3 - 18. Nov 2009 at 15:49 "Phonics" is what primary school teachers use to "educate" the hordes of illiterate yobs that go on to secondary school.
Back to top	I can be handy mending a fuse - but stuff the Isle of Wight IP Logged

jerry

Omega Knight

Offline

Posts: 1089

Re: Vowels
Reply #4 - 18. Nov 2009 at 19:07

With a 6yr old I'm getting versed in the new teaching methods for maths and literacy and tbh, whilst some of it is a lot different than the ways I was taught (and I don't just mean that lsd used to mean something else besides acid back then!),I can see the logic in a lot of it including phonics. On the otherhand, whilst I accept that any language is a living thing and grows and mutates with various influences, surely that does not mean changing the basic rules. Personally I agree with others about the credability of claiming that "Y" can be genuinely classed as a vowel in the absence of "a e i o u" even though it may appear to perform that function in the word. Undecided

Back to top

IP Logged

STMO123

Ex Member

Re: Vowels
Reply #5 - 18. Nov 2009 at 19:24

jerry wrote on 18. Nov 2009 at 19:07:

With a 6yr old I'm getting versed in the new teaching methods for maths and literacy and tbh, whilst some of it is a lot different than the ways I was taught (and I don't just mean that lsd used to mean something else besides acid back then!),I can see the logic in a lot of it including phonics. On the otherhand, whilst I accept that any language is a living thing and grows and mutates with various influences, surely that does not mean changing the basic rules. Personally I agree with others about the credability of claiming that "Y" can be genuinely classed as a vowel in the absence of "a e i o u" even though it may appear to perform that function in the word. Undecided

I seem to remember, though from god knows where, that it was classed as a surrogate vowel. My lad is pretty quick on the uptake, so just accepts it and moves on. But I can't. Grin

Back to top

IP Logged

Albs Omega King Offline The upgrades are ongoing. Posts: 15083 North Essex Gender: Drives: 2000 2.5CD with LPG/Honda cbr600 FX	Re: Vowels Reply #6 - 18. Nov 2009 at 19:26 send him to school in Wales,they,ve never heard of vowels there.
Back to top	Breaking - facelift 2.5 Elite.in Z20H Blue. PM your parts requirements. IP Logged

STMO123 Ex Member	Re: Vowels Reply #7 - 18. Nov 2009 at 19:31 Albs wrote on 18. Nov 2009 at 19:26: send him to school in Wales,they,ve never heard of vowels there. OH DEBS!!!!!
Back to top	IP Logged

Martin Imber

Over Active Poster

Offline

LPG Omega V6 - Keyfobs
Rebuilt

Posts: 20110
Worcester
Gender: male

Drives: 2001 Omega 2.6CD LPG & 3.0 cams

Re: Vowels
Reply #8 - 18. Nov 2009 at 19:43

jerry wrote on 18. Nov 2009 at 19:07:

With a 6yr old I'm getting versed in the new teaching methods for maths and literacy and tbh, whilst some of it is a lot different than the ways I was taught (and I don't just mean that lsd used to mean something else besides acid back then!),I can see the logic in a lot of it including phonics. On the otherhand, whilst I accept that any language is a living thing and grows and mutates with various influences, surely that does not mean changing the basic rules. Personally I agree with others about the credability of claiming that "Y" can be genuinely classed as a vowel in the absence of "a e i o u" even though it may appear to perform that function in the word. Undecided

Yes

Limited
Slip
Differential Thumbs Up!

Back to top

The other tuned 2.6. DIY LPG, towbar, upgrade ICE & Wing Spoiler, Air shocks, Eibach Pro Springs, Poly WB bushes, WIM setup, HID conversion, 3.0 cams, ported ect.

IP Logged

This is the old site. Please use the new site.

This is the old site. Please use the new site.

www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php.

This is the old site. Please use the new site.

	Welcome, Guest. Please Login