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Holy Count Ex Member	M&S ...sexist? 19. Nov 2009 at 22:43 Marks and Spencer's Christmas advert featuring Ashes to Ashes actor Philip Glenister has been branded as sexist. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8366133.stm What's that all about ? The man is my hero !!!!
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Vamps Omega King Offline Flying Tonight, so Be Prepared. Posts: 16571 Bishop Middleham, Co Durham. Gender: Drives: 2.0L Auto Estate & 2.2 CD Auto Saloon	Re: M&S ...sexist? Reply #1 - 19. Nov 2009 at 22:47 8 Complaints, some people really do need to get out more..... Each to their own I guess....
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pedroMV6 Omega Knight Offline Der Metzgermeister Posts: 1585 York Gender: Drives: 2.5 Elite, 3.0 Carlton, 2.2DTi Vectra C	Re: M&S ...sexist? Reply #2 - 19. Nov 2009 at 22:53 Goes to prove that there are some proper miserable b'stards about. I've about had enough of all this do-gooder, politically-correct, mind-what-you-think-let-alone-say, don't fly the flag lest it offends bollox - I really have!!
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Pete. Omega King Offline Makes Driving Pleasurable Again . Posts: 10449 Nr J28 of the M1 Gender: Drives: Black 02 Omega DTi. Black 56 Monaro VXR. Red 97 Rover 114 SLi.	Re: M&S ...sexist? Reply #3 - 20. Nov 2009 at 08:56 What about the girls in the lift gloating over a man. There's many more Diet Coke ads that come to mind. There are many more ads that are demeaning to men. Do i complain! No, why because, in all honesty i couldn't give a monkie's arse. I'm NOT SAD ENOUGH. GET A LIFE
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Debs. Omega Lord Offline A denizen of The Wirral peninsula Posts: 7386 Gender: Drives: 2.5 V6 CDX Estate (1999)	Re: M&S ...sexist? Reply #4 - 20. Nov 2009 at 09:12 Doesn`t offend me...... .......just whom are these sad, self-appointed guardians of the 'public morality' anyway?
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Desperate Den Omega King Offline Posts: 11881	Re: M&S ...sexist? Reply #5 - 20. Nov 2009 at 09:15 Debs. wrote on 20. Nov 2009 at 09:12: Doesn`t offend me...... .......just whom are these sad, self-appointed guardians of the 'public morality' anyway? The new Britons
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Guffer Omega Lord Offline Music to watch girls by.... Posts: 6142 Hampshire Gender: Drives: R Reg 2.5V6 Omega ELITE & P reg Omega 2.5 V6 CDX	Re: M&S ...sexist? Reply #6 - 20. Nov 2009 at 09:17 Desperate Den wrote on 20. Nov 2009 at 09:15: Debs. wrote on 20. Nov 2009 at 09:12: Doesn`t offend me...... .......just whom are these sad, self-appointed guardians of the 'public morality' anyway? The new Britons People who wish they looked as good
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Entwood Omega King Offline Quietly Confident Posts: 13708 North Wiltshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 Elite (with LPG)	Re: M&S ...sexist? Reply #7 - 20. Nov 2009 at 09:17 8 ... just 8 complaints .. and thats it ??? What has the world come to ??? Just tell those 8 miserable idiots to get a life ..... and allow millions of others to have a laugh .. What ever happed to "common sense" ???
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Desperate Den Omega King Offline Posts: 11881	Re: M&S ...sexist? Reply #8 - 20. Nov 2009 at 09:18 Guffer wrote on 20. Nov 2009 at 09:17: Desperate Den wrote on 20. Nov 2009 at 09:15: Debs. wrote on 20. Nov 2009 at 09:12: Doesn`t offend me...... .......just whom are these sad, self-appointed guardians of the 'public morality' anyway? The new Britons People who wish they looked as good Perhaps G
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cruisetopoland Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1352 UK Gender: Drives: various	Re: M&S ...sexist? Reply #9 - 20. Nov 2009 at 09:19 It is likley to be a few middle-age, middle class complainants who have not seen the series and so do not get the context of the advert. In isolation, it is somewhat sexist, but so are many other adverts-towards both sexes, too
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Re: M&S ...sexist?
Reply #10 - 20. Nov 2009 at 09:23

cruisetopoland wrote on 20. Nov 2009 at 09:19:

It is likley to be a few middle-age, middle class complainants who have not seen the series and so do not get the context of the advert. thats a little bit of stereotyping isn't it?

In isolation, it is somewhat sexist, but so are many other adverts-towards both sexes, too Thumbs Up!

What is sexist about giving women the freedom to express themselves in the way in which they want. If you think women/men willingly being displayed in their underwear is sexist then I refer to my comment above Thumbs Up!

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Re: M&S ...sexist?
Reply #11 - 20. Nov 2009 at 09:45

Guffer wrote on 20. Nov 2009 at 09:23:

cruisetopoland wrote on 20. Nov 2009 at 09:19:

It is likley to be a few middle-age, middle class complainants who have not seen the series and so do not get the context of the advert. thats a little bit of stereotyping isn't it?

In isolation, it is somewhat sexist, but so are many other adverts-towards both sexes, too Thumbs Up!

What is sexist about giving women the freedom to express themselves in the way in which they want. If you think women/men willingly being displayed in their underwear is sexist then I refer to my comment above Thumbs Up!

Maybe, guffer, but the odds are I'm accurate!

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Re: M&S ...sexist?
Reply #12 - 20. Nov 2009 at 11:20

Two points.

The people who made the ad play the stereotyping card cleverly - so the ad is ambiguous as to whether it lazily trades on the stereotypes put in the public domain by Ab. Fab and Life on Mars (is this the right prog?); or whether it actually enters into and reinforces the attitudes the characters portray. I expect the ad people even ~~wrote~~ prepared their response to the (predictable) complaints to ASA. The woman at the end says (false naive) "moi?" (Miss Piggy springs to mind!). M&S are "Surprised"! Who us? Nous? Surely not ....
Don't be drawn in to an ad campaign that leaks off the TV onto the news, forums etc.

second point. Some people thought the ad was sexist & complained to ASA. If we consider them to be "self-appointed" "miserable idiots" "self appointed moral guardians" then aren't we setting out to suppress their freedom of thought, just like we accuse them of trying to suppress ours? They complain, ASA makes a decision. Lots of complaints are not upheld. ASA can't really do much anyway. Let them complain, I say. They may one day be the little boy who says "the emperor's got no clothes".

Kevin (middle class. past middle age)

two postscripts. 1: I remember now Stephen Fry is in the ad, talking about mince. (discuss stereotyping etc)
2: The M&S ad people prob made the complaints to ASA.

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Re: M&S ...sexist?
Reply #13 - 20. Nov 2009 at 12:04

The problem is that the pendulum of common sense has swung so far that it might never get back to a sensible position as the next lot of decision makers come through to replace the current lot.

Like I keep saying no one ever takes to the streets to complain about anything in Britain. We just sneer at the French when they do and bring the channel tunnel to a halt.

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Re: M&S ...sexist?
Reply #14 - 20. Nov 2009 at 12:21

Varche wrote on 20. Nov 2009 at 12:04:

The problem is that the pendulum of common sense has swung so far that it might never get back to a sensible position as the next lot of decision makers come through to replace the current lot.

Like I keep saying no one ever takes to the streets to complain about anything in Britain. We just sneer at the French when they do and bring the channel tunnel to a halt.

V

Exactly, varche, that's why the 'aussies' call us 'whingeing poms'. Bur actively complaining is seen as 'un british' and you are labelled a troublemaker if you dare stand up for yourself as an individual. It takes a large group of people/voters/protesters to make anyone sit up & notice, but the majority of the indigenous population in Britain are pretty apathetic and bloody lazy to boot, just look at the turnout on Polling day. Grin

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