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Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun
Reply #15 - 25. Nov 2009 at 09:38

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CR2's have a terminal voltage of 3V, so 3 of them makes 9V.
Being Li-ion cells, they will however be able to keep the current going for much longer than a standard 9V alkaline cell.

I do doubt that the gun in that advert makes anywhere near the claimed 950 KV though

Not unless they've re-written the laws of physics! For a start the electrodes are, what? 20mm apart?

Dielectric strength of air is, at most, 3MV/m or 3Kv/mm so the electrodes will arc over at 60kV.

That advert is pure bull5h1t!

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Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun
Reply #16 - 25. Nov 2009 at 13:39

anyone have the courage to try those on self body Grin

http://www.stungunsupply.com/manufacturer/Barracuda-stun-guns/

"The internal circuits of most electroshock weapons are fairly simple, based on either an oscillator, resonant circuit, and step-up transformer or a diode-capacitor voltage multiplier to achieve the continuous, direct, or alternating high-voltage discharge"

imho I wouldnt trust the battery voltages only !

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Stevie-blunder Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1218 Wolverhampton Gender: Drives: 98 omega 2.5td auto and Rolls Royce Silver Spur	Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun Reply #17 - 25. Nov 2009 at 18:59 Still very funny though
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PhilRich Omega Lord Offline Proud to be English, with no apologies to ANYONE! Posts: 6825 NorthEast Coast Gender: Drives: 2002 2.2CDX 4dr Auto. LPG Converted.	Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun Reply #18 - 25. Nov 2009 at 19:11 I haven't stopped laughing since I logged on tonight! it's been a real tonic and i'm very grateful to all you guys & gals who post the jokes, keep 'em coming!
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Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun
Reply #19 - 25. Nov 2009 at 19:38

cem wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 13:39:

imho I wouldnt trust the battery voltages only !

You can make ridiculous voltages from very small figures (I can easily make 500 KV from 1.5V), the problems arise when you want the secondary voltages (50 KV, 100 KV, etc) to be sustainable and provide enough current when under load (the human body being the "load" in this case) to achieve the desired result.

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Marks DTM Calib Administrator Offline Ex Member Posts: 25671 Northern Hemisphere Gender: Drives: Astra J, Mum Bus, Dexta Tractor, 108 DMU wip	Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun Reply #20 - 25. Nov 2009 at 20:00 I could knock a circuit up that would give a 3 second pulse at that sort of voltage from such a source and a reasonable amount of mA behind it to. I have to say......that cat would have been toast Made me laugh, liked that one!
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Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun
Reply #21 - 25. Nov 2009 at 20:05

Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 09:38:

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CR2's have a terminal voltage of 3V, so 3 of them makes 9V.
Being Li-ion cells, they will however be able to keep the current going for much longer than a standard 9V alkaline cell.

I do doubt that the gun in that advert makes anywhere near the claimed 950 KV though

Not unless they've re-written the laws of physics! For a start the electrodes are, what? 20mm apart?

Dielectric strength of air is, at most, 3MV/m or 3Kv/mm so the electrodes will arc over at 60kV.

That advert is pure bull5h1t!

Kevin

You think? Grin

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Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun
Reply #22 - 25. Nov 2009 at 20:13

Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 09:38:

Quote:

CR2's have a terminal voltage of 3V, so 3 of them makes 9V.
Being Li-ion cells, they will however be able to keep the current going for much longer than a standard 9V alkaline cell.

I do doubt that the gun in that advert makes anywhere near the claimed 950 KV though

Not unless they've re-written the laws of physics! For a start the electrodes are, what? 20mm apart?

Dielectric strength of air is, at most, 3MV/m or 3Kv/mm so the electrodes will arc over at 60kV.

That advert is pure bull5h1t!

Kevin

Indeed they would.....pressed against the skin it would be interesting to know what the volts would be (any volunteers!) as it varies massively from person to person.

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Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun
Reply #23 - 25. Nov 2009 at 20:17

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 20:13:

Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 09:38:

Quote:

CR2's have a terminal voltage of 3V, so 3 of them makes 9V.
Being Li-ion cells, they will however be able to keep the current going for much longer than a standard 9V alkaline cell.

I do doubt that the gun in that advert makes anywhere near the claimed 950 KV though

Not unless they've re-written the laws of physics! For a start the electrodes are, what? 20mm apart?

Dielectric strength of air is, at most, 3MV/m or 3Kv/mm so the electrodes will arc over at 60kV.

That advert is pure bull5h1t!

Kevin

Indeed they would.....pressed against the skin it would be interesting to know what the volts would be (any volunteers!) as it varies massively from person to person.

When I was at college we use to wet the ends of the probes on the old AVOmeter and measure the resistance of our bodies. IIRC, it wasn't that great, maybe 2-3Kohms.

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Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun
Reply #24 - 25. Nov 2009 at 20:18

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Marks DTM Calib wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 20:13:

Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 09:38:

Quote:

CR2's have a terminal voltage of 3V, so 3 of them makes 9V.
Being Li-ion cells, they will however be able to keep the current going for much longer than a standard 9V alkaline cell.

I do doubt that the gun in that advert makes anywhere near the claimed 950 KV though

Not unless they've re-written the laws of physics! For a start the electrodes are, what? 20mm apart?

Dielectric strength of air is, at most, 3MV/m or 3Kv/mm so the electrodes will arc over at 60kV.

That advert is pure bull5h1t!

Kevin

Indeed they would.....pressed against the skin it would be interesting to know what the volts would be (any volunteers!) as it varies massively from person to person.

When I was at college we use to wet the ends of the probes on the old AVOmeter and measure the resistance of our bodies. IIRC, it wasn't that great, maybe 2-3Kohms.

Indeed, it varies with persperation and where you do it......

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Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun
Reply #25 - 25. Nov 2009 at 20:20

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 20:13:

Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 09:38:

Quote:

CR2's have a terminal voltage of 3V, so 3 of them makes 9V.
Being Li-ion cells, they will however be able to keep the current going for much longer than a standard 9V alkaline cell.

I do doubt that the gun in that advert makes anywhere near the claimed 950 KV though

Not unless they've re-written the laws of physics! For a start the electrodes are, what? 20mm apart?

Dielectric strength of air is, at most, 3MV/m or 3Kv/mm so the electrodes will arc over at 60kV.

That advert is pure bull5h1t!

Kevin

Indeed they would.....pressed against the skin it would be interesting to know what the volts would be (any volunteers!) as it varies massively from person to person.

Absolutely, that is why my last test on a gun that claimed to deliver 100KV was conducted after 8 people had their skin resistance measured at the point on the body where they would have been struck.
Of all the people measured, most of the values were within 20K of each other anyway (which meant they would have felt the same if actually zapped in real life).

Off load volts = 90 KV (just about)
On load volts = 42 KV (quite dismal really)

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Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun
Reply #26 - 25. Nov 2009 at 20:21

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Marks DTM Calib wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 20:13:

Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 09:38:

Quote:

CR2's have a terminal voltage of 3V, so 3 of them makes 9V.
Being Li-ion cells, they will however be able to keep the current going for much longer than a standard 9V alkaline cell.

I do doubt that the gun in that advert makes anywhere near the claimed 950 KV though

Not unless they've re-written the laws of physics! For a start the electrodes are, what? 20mm apart?

Dielectric strength of air is, at most, 3MV/m or 3Kv/mm so the electrodes will arc over at 60kV.

That advert is pure bull5h1t!

Kevin

Indeed they would.....pressed against the skin it would be interesting to know what the volts would be (any volunteers!) as it varies massively from person to person.

Absolutely, that is why my last test on a gun that claimed to deliver 100KV was conducted after 8 people had their skin resistance measured at the point on the body where they would have been struck.
Of all the people measured, most of the values were within 20K of each other anyway (which meant they would have felt the same if actually zapped in real life).

Off load volts = 90 KV (just about)
On load volts = 42 KV (quite dismal really)

Enough to make your eyes water Grin

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KillerWatt Ex Member	Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun Reply #27 - 25. Nov 2009 at 20:23 Quote: Enough to make your eyes water It created enough shock in one test subject that they lost control of bodily waste functions when exposed to (what had to be) at least a 10 second burst before the battery started getting flaky.
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Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun
Reply #28 - 25. Nov 2009 at 21:59

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 20:13:

Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 09:38:

Quote:

CR2's have a terminal voltage of 3V, so 3 of them makes 9V.
Being Li-ion cells, they will however be able to keep the current going for much longer than a standard 9V alkaline cell.

I do doubt that the gun in that advert makes anywhere near the claimed 950 KV though

Not unless they've re-written the laws of physics! For a start the electrodes are, what? 20mm apart?

Dielectric strength of air is, at most, 3MV/m or 3Kv/mm so the electrodes will arc over at 60kV.

That advert is pure bull5h1t!

Kevin

Indeed they would.....pressed against the skin it would be interesting to know what the volts would be (any volunteers!) as it varies massively from person to person.

Killerwatt!!! Thumbs Up!

Might even jump start a sense of humour!!! Wink

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Re: Pocket Tazer Stun Gun
Reply #29 - 25. Nov 2009 at 22:07

Ljay wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 21:59:

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 20:13:

Kevin Wood wrote on 25. Nov 2009 at 09:38:

Quote:

CR2's have a terminal voltage of 3V, so 3 of them makes 9V.
Being Li-ion cells, they will however be able to keep the current going for much longer than a standard 9V alkaline cell.

I do doubt that the gun in that advert makes anywhere near the claimed 950 KV though

Not unless they've re-written the laws of physics! For a start the electrodes are, what? 20mm apart?

Dielectric strength of air is, at most, 3MV/m or 3Kv/mm so the electrodes will arc over at 60kV.

That advert is pure bull5h1t!

Kevin

Indeed they would.....pressed against the skin it would be interesting to know what the volts would be (any volunteers!) as it varies massively from person to person.

Killerwatt!!! Thumbs Up!

Might even jump start a sense of humour!!! Wink

I'll buy in to that......on the proviso that you have to take a minimum 25% of the voltage that I sit back & take, for 50% of the time that I have to withstand it Wink

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