What I find interesting about Climate Change is that those "in the know" are doing exactly the same thing and saying the same thing as religious nuts down throughout the history of mankind.

Repent! Change your ways! Or thou art doomed! and the skies will fall down upon ye! 

In reality the scientists who have changed the world in the past were self funded and independent. That is the only way to do true science.

Well finally they've been cought red handed and I'm delighted

Just looking at sky news now ad there're reporting on the muppets version of Bohemian Rhapsody

At least if this comes out properly can we please change the types of car ads on the telly

I dont want these gay, eurotrash, hippy treehugger, little girls barbie accessory piece of crap car ads


Now this is what I want

Banjax wrote on 27. Nov 2009 at 13:19:





I have to say that I'm very disappointed by this contribution bj, I hope that my faith in your pragmatism hasn't been misplaced?

It's getting interesting!

5 Australian front-bench MPs have resigned rather than back this carbon tax crap
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100018003/climategate-five-aus...

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All those on the side of AGW right now are breaking out in a sweat and getting very defensive.

Lizzie Zoom wrote on 27. Nov 2009 at 20:54:


Only availbale in the UK Can you give give me the gist of it

Lizzie Zoom wrote on 27. Nov 2009 at 21:15:


An impossibility now if this becomes widespread knowledge.

However I doubt much would have come from Copenhagen even without this "climategate", strange to say but in this sense I hope our politicians are just as greedy and deaf as always, only looking after their own countries economies and not bothering about such a trivial issue as "climate change"

Edit: Me fail english? That umpossible!

[The upcoming UN climate conference in Copenhagen] “is about raw politics, not about the politics of science"...."It is possible that climate science has become too partisan, too centralized. The tribalism that some of the leaked emails display is something more usually associated with social organization within primitive cultures; it is not attractive when we find it at work inside science. It is also possible that the institutional innovation that has been the I.P.C.C. has run its course. Yes, there will be an AR5 but for what purpose? The I.P.C.C. itself, through its structural tendency to politicize climate change science, has perhaps helped to foster a more authoritarian and exclusive form of knowledge production - just at a time when a globalizing and wired cosmopolitan culture is demanding of science something much more open and inclusive."

Mike Hulme, Tyndal Centre, UEA. In November 2009, Hulme was listed as “the 10th most cited author in the world in the field of climate change, between 1999 and 2009".

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/27/a-climate-scientist-on-climate-skep...

When even top scientists are beginning to say that the science has become too politicised, we need to sit uop and take note..Puts that BBC documentary that Lizzie mentioned into its proper perspective, methinks.

Lizzie Zoom wrote on 27. Nov 2009 at 21:15:


....as time passes it seems that Barak Obama mirrors our former dear leader's propensity to talk a good talk but rather stumble on the uneven ground of practical real world politics.