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Re: Spontaneous combustion!!!
Reply #60 - 28. Nov 2009 at 21:27

tunnie wrote on 28. Nov 2009 at 21:24:

I still find it difficult to believe a removed power sounder would be noticed, its up to them to prove you did it as well. Whats to stop you saying you bought it that way?

Agree, sort of.... Insurance assesors look at many cars, both crashed and burnt (sometimes both at the same time...) and perhaps they will not recall the exact specifics of each model.

Be assured, however, if there is a reason to examine a car to the n-th degree then they will spot the anomoly and its upto you to answer the hard questions thereafter...... Wink

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STMO123 Ex Member	Re: Spontaneous combustion!!! Reply #61 - 28. Nov 2009 at 21:29 " Has the car been modified in any way?" "Has it got a standard manufacturer fitted alarm?" Those two questions would be enough for them to refuse payment.
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Reply #62 - 28. Nov 2009 at 21:29

tunnie wrote on 28. Nov 2009 at 21:24:

Whats to stop you saying you bought it that way?

Nothing at all, but if you told the insurance company (in that recoreded phone call) the car (including the alarm system) is completely standard (which is what we all do), then they have room to wriggle.

These day you need to think carefully BEFORE you make a statement, because if you don't then it's odds on that it will come back at some point to bite you on the arse Wink

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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: Spontaneous combustion!!! Reply #63 - 28. Nov 2009 at 21:31 Quote: " Has the car been modified in any way?" Reply: Not in my ownership, and not to my knowledge by previous owners. "Has it got a standard manufacturer fitted alarm?" Yes. Those two questions would be enough for them to refuse payment.
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STMO123 Ex Member	Re: Spontaneous combustion!!! Reply #64 - 28. Nov 2009 at 21:38 tunnie wrote on 28. Nov 2009 at 21:31: Quote: " Has the car been modified in any way?" Reply: Not in my ownership, and not to my knowledge by previous owners. "Has it got a standard manufacturer fitted alarm?" Yes. Those two questions would be enough for them to refuse payment. No it hasn't. But enough already.
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Re: Spontaneous combustion!!!
Reply #65 - 28. Nov 2009 at 21:46

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tunnie wrote on 28. Nov 2009 at 21:31:

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" Has the car been modified in any way?"

Reply: Not in my ownership, and not to my knowledge by previous owners.

"Has it got a standard manufacturer fitted alarm?"

Yes.

Those two questions would be enough for them to refuse payment.

No it hasn't.

But enough already.

Horn still goes off Grin

It will be a grey area, its going to be difficult to advise future issues with it Undecided

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Vamps Omega King Offline Flying Tonight, so Be Prepared. Posts: 16571 Bishop Middleham, Co Durham. Gender: Drives: 2.0L Auto Estate & 2.2 CD Auto Saloon	Re: Spontaneous combustion!!! Reply #66 - 28. Nov 2009 at 21:55 Is the power sounder additional to any basic alarm then, given the horn works??? I have had 2 Migs over the last 9 years and have never heard an alarm go off in either of them.........
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PHEASANT PLUCKER Intermediate Member Offline Posts: 278 WIRRAL Drives: 2.2 cdx saloon auto	Re: Spontaneous combustion!!! Reply #67 - 28. Nov 2009 at 22:00 WOW, Scary stuff Glad you, jimbob and kids are all o.k. If not still in shock. Was there no indication of powersounder failing ,i.e. warning bleeps.
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Re: Spontaneous combustion!!!
Reply #68 - 28. Nov 2009 at 22:07

PHEASANT PLUCKER wrote on 28. Nov 2009 at 22:00:

WOW, Scary stuff Shocked

Glad you, jimbob and kids are all o.k. If not still in shock. Was there no indication of powersounder failing ,i.e. warning bleeps.

Thank you! Absolutely no indication at all! First we knew was the alarm going off sounding very strange, yes, scary stuff indeed!!
The shock is the what ifs....what if we'd been out
What if the kids were in it, we went up the coast yesterday,
What if it had gone up on the petrol forecourt yesterday,
or, at work last night where another car blew up in the summer???

Think we just have to say we were very lucky!!!

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Been there, fallen over it!

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Kevin Wood Global Moderator Admin Team Offline Posts: 20377 Alton, Hampshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 MV6 (LPG), Westfield	Re: Spontaneous combustion!!! Reply #69 - 28. Nov 2009 at 22:31 tunnie wrote on 28. Nov 2009 at 20:52: And if they don't pay out? Big deal, book price of my car is £750 You could end up liable for an awful lot more than that if your insurance company decides to wash their hands of you on a technicality. Kevin
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Reply #70 - 28. Nov 2009 at 22:32

Ljay wrote on 28. Nov 2009 at 22:07:

PHEASANT PLUCKER wrote on 28. Nov 2009 at 22:00:

WOW, Scary stuff Shocked

Glad you, jimbob and kids are all o.k. If not still in shock. Was there no indication of powersounder failing ,i.e. warning bleeps.

Thank you! Absolutely no indication at all! First we knew was the alarm going off sounding very strange, yes, scary stuff indeed!!
The shock is the what ifs....what if we'd been out
What if the kids were in it, we went up the coast yesterday,
What if it had gone up on the petrol forecourt yesterday,
or, at work last night where another car blew up in the summer???

Think we just have to say we were very lucky!!!

Glad you're all OK. Nasty shock, that. Shocked

Tunnie posted earlier that he'd heard of a few pre-facelifts going up in flames because of this fault. Do I take it from his comments that facelifts are generally OK?

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Ljay Omega Baron Offline The Acrobatics Queen Posts: 2885 North Wales Gender: Drives: 3.0 MV6 Manual Estate, 3.2 Auto MV6 Estate	Re: Spontaneous combustion!!! Reply #71 - 28. Nov 2009 at 22:43 Odds are that none are safe, could be an age thing? Certainly heard of more in pre facelifts but who knows??? I certainly won't be taking the chance again.
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Reply #72 - 28. Nov 2009 at 22:50

Ljay wrote on 28. Nov 2009 at 22:43:

Odds are that none are safe, could be an age thing? Certainly heard of more in pre facelifts but who knows???
I certainly won't be taking the chance again.

The ones on the facelifts I've seen are a different design, but they are equally prone to batteries leaking and the alarm malfunctioning. Whether they are as prone to combustion remains to be seen.

For a similar cost to a tyre every 5 years it would probably pay to just change it - or open it up and change the batteries if it's not a potted one like this example.

Kevin

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Ljay Omega Baron Offline The Acrobatics Queen Posts: 2885 North Wales Gender: Drives: 3.0 MV6 Manual Estate, 3.2 Auto MV6 Estate	Re: Spontaneous combustion!!! Reply #73 - 29. Nov 2009 at 20:50 Shes back up and running with only a broken windscreen wiper to show for her big adventure! (and no power sounder obviously!!!) Had a good clean out with an aircon bomb to get rid of some very pungent aromas! The dragon lives another day!!
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Debs. Omega Lord Offline A denizen of The Wirral peninsula Posts: 7386 Gender: Drives: 2.5 V6 CDX Estate (1999)	Re: Spontaneous combustion!!! Reply #74 - 29. Nov 2009 at 21:09 Ljay wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:50: Shes back up and running with only a broken windscreen wiper to show for her big adventure! (and no power sounder obviously!!!) Had a good clean out with an aircon bomb to get rid of some very pungent aromas! The dragon lives another day!! Yay!......great news.
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