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Re: Question for the AV experts
Reply #30 - 29. Nov 2009 at 20:21

Desperate Den wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:19:

Lazydocker wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:12:

Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look Thumbs Up!

Thanks for the advice and opinions though

Sensible decision LD - look out for the Sony V W or X models I've just purchased a KDL 40 V 5500 which is quite impressive.

Exactly the same panels as the Samsungs Thumbs Up!

They have a shared production facility and development program Thumbs Up!

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Re: Question for the AV experts
Reply #31 - 29. Nov 2009 at 20:23

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:21:

Desperate Den wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:19:

Lazydocker wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:12:

Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look Thumbs Up!

Thanks for the advice and opinions though

Sensible decision LD - look out for the Sony V W or X models I've just purchased a KDL 40 V 5500 which is quite impressive.

Exactly the same panels as the Samsungs Thumbs Up!

They have a shared production facility and development program Thumbs Up!

TBH, I'll probably look about for a Panasonic as they seem to be leaps and bounds ahead of the competition Thumbs Up!

There's no real rush

Was more of an impulse buy really... I nearly walked out with it on Friday but I'm glad I didn't Thumbs Up!

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Marks DTM Calib Administrator Offline Ex Member Posts: 25671 Northern Hemisphere Gender: Drives: Astra J, Mum Bus, Dexta Tractor, 108 DMU wip	Re: Question for the AV experts Reply #32 - 29. Nov 2009 at 20:25 The one thing I will say is this...... IFfyou dont make such a purchase today....you may never will. Reality is if you are going to wait 3 months or so, you might as well wait 2 years for LED prices to drop and then you might as well wait 4 for OLED......yada yada yada
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Re: Question for the AV experts
Reply #33 - 29. Nov 2009 at 20:30

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:25:

The one thing I will say is this......

IFfyou dont make such a purchase today....you may never will. Reality is if you are going to wait 3 months or so, you might as well wait 2 years for LED prices to drop and then you might as well wait 4 for OLED......yada yada yada Grin

Yep... Understand completely what you're saying Roll Eyes

That said... Christmas/Boxing Day sales are just around the corner and there's bound to be some good deals kicking about Thumbs Up!

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Reply #34 - 29. Nov 2009 at 20:31

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:25:

The one thing I will say is this......

IFfyou dont make such a purchase today....you may never will. Reality is if you are going to wait 3 months or so, you might as well wait 2 years for LED prices to drop and then you might as well wait 4 for OLED......yada yada yada Grin

Agreed, if you shop around at the moment there's some quite good deals available - I paid £649 for the Sony.

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Re: Question for the AV experts
Reply #35 - 29. Nov 2009 at 20:33

Lazydocker wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:30:

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:25:

The one thing I will say is this......

IFfyou dont make such a purchase today....you may never will. Reality is if you are going to wait 3 months or so, you might as well wait 2 years for LED prices to drop and then you might as well wait 4 for OLED......yada yada yada Grin

Yep... Understand completely what you're saying Roll Eyes

That said... Christmas/Boxing Day sales are just around the corner and there's bound to be some good deals kicking about Thumbs Up!

Interestingly, the better prices seem to be around Feb/March due to the usual sales drop and the dash for cash at year end Thumbs Up!

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Re: Question for the AV experts
Reply #36 - 29. Nov 2009 at 20:49

Desperate Den wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:19:

Lazydocker wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:12:

Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look Thumbs Up!

Thanks for the advice and opinions though

Sensible decision LD - look out for the Sony V W or X models I've just purchased a KDL 40 V 5500 which is quite impressive.

X best followed by W

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Reply #37 - 29. Nov 2009 at 20:50

made the same decission to wait for the sales year before last. Prices of tv's didnt budge. The likes of richer sounds dont have a sale as such. They cant drop their prices any lower. Comet and currys may do, but they're not the cheapest anyway.

For me its a case of knowing exactly what model you want for your needs and wallet, and finding it at the best price. So i think your wise to leave it, not a spur of the moment decission, you'll be stuck with it for some time. Get the one you know you want imho.

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Re: Question for the AV experts
Reply #38 - 29. Nov 2009 at 20:50

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:21:

Desperate Den wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:19:

Lazydocker wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:12:

Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look Thumbs Up!

Thanks for the advice and opinions though

Sensible decision LD - look out for the Sony V W or X models I've just purchased a KDL 40 V 5500 which is quite impressive.

Exactly the same panels as the Samsungs Thumbs Up!

They have a shared production facility and development program Thumbs Up!

The drive electronics however are totally different

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The other tuned 2.6. DIY LPG, towbar, upgrade ICE & Wing Spoiler, Air shocks, Eibach Pro Springs, Poly WB bushes, WIM setup, HID conversion, 3.0 cams, ported ect.

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Re: Question for the AV experts
Reply #39 - 29. Nov 2009 at 20:54

Martin Imber wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:50:

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:21:

Desperate Den wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:19:

Lazydocker wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:12:

Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look Thumbs Up!

Thanks for the advice and opinions though

Sensible decision LD - look out for the Sony V W or X models I've just purchased a KDL 40 V 5500 which is quite impressive.

Exactly the same panels as the Samsungs Thumbs Up!

They have a shared production facility and development program Thumbs Up!

The drive electronics however are totally different

And make close to bugger all difference at full HD

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Re: Question for the AV experts
Reply #40 - 29. Nov 2009 at 21:34

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 17:25:

chrisgixer wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 14:33:

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 08:57:

LCD edges it in practical scenarios.

Samsung are excellent units, but do use the recommended settings founf on line (e.g. avforums).

I am surprised that some on here think that digital trickery such as image enhancement and sharpness settings can do any good to any picture so turn them all off!

And seperat component might edge over HDMI....if you could find a true HD component source in the first place (and even then its VERY questionable).

And why bugger around ever feeding video through an amp?

Only advantage with in hdmi amp i could see was it saved selecting your sound source to match the video.
Idea being, 1 hdmi cable to tv, then plug all else into the hdmi amp and select your single source from there. Audio and video is then selected at once. Much like the old media box's on previous pioneer panels. Also means you only need one socket to cover all eventualitys on the tv, an hdmi socket.

The onkyo hdmi amp i tried, was flawed though as it claimed to upscale, but it did so to a level lower than the picture quality i already had, and its menu was displayed in 4by3, not wide screen. So half a step forward and 5 steps back imho.

Lcd v plasma? I've yet to see lcd beet plasma re picture quality on comparable panels. However lcd is a good bit cheaper to make, if inferior slightly in quality to plasma. No experience of LED, although i hear its so vibrant as to be unrealistic, only what i hear though.

You will never get a real opinion until you mess with them in real life.....always ignore what you see in a shop!.

When I bought mine I spent over an hour trying settings on plasma and LCD panels and could get a better picture on an LCD every time.....it also REALLY pissed the shop staff off as I then went and bought it on line Grin

Indeed, when you FULLY understand the technology and how its driven and works you will soon appreciate how LCD can always win out over plasma.....you cant consider just the pixel technology alone. Wink

Nah, sorry. I played and demo'd till blue in the face before buying. I knew what i wanted straight out and tried very hard to buy something else, could find nothing better for under a grand at the time, 2 years ago though so it may well have changed by now.
Every lcd even the top range stuff had a net curtain picture, like the sharpness was too high, but it didnt have a wide enough scale, all or nothing. Just could not tune it out. Uneven back lights as well.

I bow to you knowledge of course, it does get warm.
But as you'll recall i did mention lcd to be an easier and therefor cheaper technology. Trouble is, for me, it shows as cheap all to readilly in the picture.

I also know someone who bought a sony lcd and curses it as being a worse pic than his tube in sd for the same size screen. Settings most likely there i guess or hes watching through a scart or rf cable or something daft.

Anyway, for me at the time, it was plasma or stay with the tube. No question about it.

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chrisgixer Omega King Offline Black ones are faster. Posts: 14570 Wokingham Gender: Drives: "Omega Black" 3.2 Elite. Thanks to Joshwyatt.	Re: Question for the AV experts Reply #41 - 01. Dec 2009 at 15:00 currently sat in wheels in motion waiting room. Their 50inch(plus?)panel tv is samsung and showing top gear on Dave. So is SD picture. I'm fairly sure to look at it, it's LCD. Dont like it at all.(as large panel tv's go of course.)
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Kevin Wood Global Moderator Admin Team Offline Posts: 20377 Alton, Hampshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 MV6 (LPG), Westfield	Re: Question for the AV experts Reply #42 - 01. Dec 2009 at 15:06 Quote: currently sat in wheels in motion waiting room . That reminds me. The marginal tread on my front tyres was blatantly obvious on the frosty roads this morning. Are you buying tyres? Kevin
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Re: Question for the AV experts
Reply #43 - 01. Dec 2009 at 19:24

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:54:

Martin Imber wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:50:

Marks DTM Calib wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:21:

Desperate Den wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:19:

Lazydocker wrote on 29. Nov 2009 at 20:12:

Well... Having taken on board the comments here and a couple more reviews I found today (and chatting t my Old Man who is up to date with AV stuff) I have decided it's not a good enough deal to justify the compromises I would be making so I'll be keeping my pennies in my pocket and waiting for the sales to have another look Thumbs Up!

Thanks for the advice and opinions though

Sensible decision LD - look out for the Sony V W or X models I've just purchased a KDL 40 V 5500 which is quite impressive.

Exactly the same panels as the Samsungs Thumbs Up!

They have a shared production facility and development program Thumbs Up!

The drive electronics however are totally different

And make close to bugger all difference at full HD

Only as far as the average human eye is concerned.

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Re: Question for the AV experts
Reply #44 - 01. Dec 2009 at 19:44

Kevin Wood wrote on 01. Dec 2009 at 15:06:

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currently sat in wheels in motion waiting room

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That reminds me. The marginal tread on my front tyres was blatantly obvious on the frosty roads this morning. Roll Eyes

Are you buying tyres?

Kevin

Marginal? Not the Dunlops surely? Lips Sealed

Nah, set up. I cant get black boots to come down enough to beet my local guy for tyres. Although he(local guy) did me a deal last time after the falken disaster.
Only just got home.
Was just checking after re doing the rear bushes last weekend. Rear toe slightly out, and re correct a slight pull after they last looked at it a fortnight before. Sorted that, but they gave it back to me with the steering wheel off centre. Its still not right and had to battle home in mental traffic.

I'm thinking of modifieing a small spirit level with a bolt through each end and that fits on the radious of the middle of the stearing wheel/air bag cover to make sure its level. I'll donate it to them. Will save me a small fortune in gas on return visits. Grrrrr......

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