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A word to the wise.
02. Dec 2009 at 21:22

Now I know this was discussed a few days ago, mostly hearsay iirc.

Yesterday was very frosty morning, we live in a small village, house is on the primary road through the village.
SWMBO started up the Mig, parked on the road and came back into the house as the car warmed. I did the same in the Citroen, parked on the drive, nice warm car to get into........ Cheesy

My sister in law who lives, in the far corner of the estate opposite our house, which is in effect a large culdesac, did the same with her 54 reg Nissan 4X4 popping back into the house and upstairs to get something. She heard some revving, looked out of the window only to see her car being driven off.

Worst thing is, as some members warned, the initial reaction of the Insurance Company is that; as the keys were in it, regardless of engine running, it is not covered........ Sad

Brother reckons it is 'scroats' on the off chance, walking the village, knowing that a lot of people will be doing this at school run time. He is a little bit peed off, to say the least........ Sad

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Lazydocker Omega King Offline Victim of Pinky's Power Trip! Posts: 11336 Woodbridge, Suffolk Gender: Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified	Re: A word to the wise. Reply #1 - 02. Dec 2009 at 21:29 It's bad news Vamps but.... Proof that Migs are worth bugger all though
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Lazydocker Omega King Offline Victim of Pinky's Power Trip! Posts: 11336 Woodbridge, Suffolk Gender: Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified	Re: A word to the wise. Reply #2 - 02. Dec 2009 at 21:29 Must confess... I generally nip out and start the car... But I live in the middle of nowhere
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Vamps Omega King Offline Flying Tonight, so Be Prepared. Posts: 16571 Bishop Middleham, Co Durham. Gender: Drives: 2.0L Auto Estate & 2.2 CD Auto Saloon	Re: A word to the wise. Reply #3 - 02. Dec 2009 at 21:31 I have done it for years, and our village has very few problems, just goes to show how easy it is to get complacent.....
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candyman Junior Member Offline Posts: 191 Carrickfergus, N Ireland Gender: Drives: 00 persia mica man mv6 est, transit connect,	Re: A word to the wise. Reply #4 - 02. Dec 2009 at 21:34 i have a key out system in my van for this. van sits and warms up with it running and i can take the keys out of the igntion and lock the doors. van turns off if handbrake is let off. van is always warm by the time im leaving!
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Re: A word to the wise.
Reply #5 - 02. Dec 2009 at 21:35

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting. IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&a...

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

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Vamps Omega King Offline Flying Tonight, so Be Prepared. Posts: 16571 Bishop Middleham, Co Durham. Gender: Drives: 2.0L Auto Estate & 2.2 CD Auto Saloon	Re: A word to the wise. Reply #6 - 02. Dec 2009 at 21:37 On a modern car, could you lock the car with another key, leaving the first on in warming the engine? just a thought...
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candyman Junior Member Offline Posts: 191 Carrickfergus, N Ireland Gender: Drives: 00 persia mica man mv6 est, transit connect,	Re: A word to the wise. Reply #7 - 02. Dec 2009 at 21:42 apparently its against the law for a vehicle to be left running unattended with the keys in the ign. a lot of the police vehicles over here have it. you could make it with 2 relays and a push switch. the above system is like what the airport fire engines use to keep the engines warm.
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Re: A word to the wise.
Reply #8 - 02. Dec 2009 at 21:43

cruisetopoland wrote on 02. Dec 2009 at 21:35:

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting. IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&a...

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

£245.00 excluding, hells bells Shocked

It's given me an idea to make my own though Thumbs Up!

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Re: A word to the wise.
Reply #9 - 02. Dec 2009 at 21:46

Pete. wrote on 02. Dec 2009 at 21:43:

cruisetopoland wrote on 02. Dec 2009 at 21:35:

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting. IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&a...

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

£245.00 excluding, hells bells Shocked

It's given me an idea to make my own though Thumbs Up!

If your diesel has the diesel fired heater under the front wing you should be able to fit a controller to operate it without the engine running. Saves having to trail mains cables across your drive.

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Re: A word to the wise.
Reply #10 - 02. Dec 2009 at 21:51

Pete. wrote on 02. Dec 2009 at 21:43:

cruisetopoland wrote on 02. Dec 2009 at 21:35:

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting. IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&a...

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

£245.00 excluding, hells bells Shocked

It's given me an idea to make my own though Thumbs Up!

Used one sold on ebay recently at £67....

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Re: A word to the wise.
Reply #11 - 02. Dec 2009 at 21:53

Andy H wrote on 02. Dec 2009 at 21:46:

Pete. wrote on 02. Dec 2009 at 21:43:

cruisetopoland wrote on 02. Dec 2009 at 21:35:

Was always advised never to do this as insurers have no obligation to pay out....

An old neighbour used to have one of these and swore by it as it got the car warmed up without starting. IIRC he had it wired to a timer with a relay to the heater fan to heat the cabin/windows up too:

http://www.holden.co.uk/displayproduct.asp?sg=&pgCode=&sgName=&pgName=&agCode=&a...

If it saved the 10mpg consumption of the first few miles every day, it would soon pay for itself-anyone used one??

£245.00 excluding, hells bells Shocked

It's given me an idea to make my own though Thumbs Up!

If your diesel has the diesel fired heater under the front wing you should be able to fit a controller to operate it without the engine running. Saves having to trail mains cables across your drive.

She does, but i'm not keeping her Sad

Thank you all the same Thumbs Up!

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Brick Tamland Intermediate Member Offline Good one! Posts: 441 Dublin Gender: Drives: '95 xj sport 4.0	Re: A word to the wise. Reply #12 - 02. Dec 2009 at 22:01 Vamps wrote on 02. Dec 2009 at 21:37: On a modern car, could you lock the car with another key, leaving the first on in warming the engine? just a thought... I had both keys of my mig on me while reading that and I'm sitting near the front door Yes it works
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Re: A word to the wise.
Reply #13 - 02. Dec 2009 at 22:15

Brick Tamland wrote on 02. Dec 2009 at 22:01:

Vamps wrote on 02. Dec 2009 at 21:37:

On a modern car, could you lock the car with another key, leaving the first on in warming the engine? just a thought... Roll Eyes

I had both keys of my mig on me while reading that and I'm sitting near the front door Roll Eyes

Yes it works Grin

Cool, or should I say warm........ Grin

might be the way to go if it is very cold...... Thumbs Up!

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Re: A word to the wise.
Reply #14 - 02. Dec 2009 at 22:21

Vamps wrote on 02. Dec 2009 at 21:22:

Now I know this was discussed a few days ago, mostly hearsay iirc.

Yesterday was very frosty morning, we live in a small village, house is on the primary road through the village.
SWMBO started up the Mig, parked on the road and came back into the house as the car warmed. I did the same in the Citroen, parked on the drive, nice warm car to get into........ Cheesy

My sister in law who lives, in the far corner of the estate opposite our house, which is in effect a large culdesac, did the same with her 54 reg Nissan 4X4 popping back into the house and upstairs to get something. She heard some revving, looked out of the window only to see her car being driven off.

Worst thing is, as some members warned, the initial reaction of the Insurance Company is that; as the keys were in it, regardless of engine running, it is not covered........ Sad

Brother reckons it is 'scroats' on the off chance, walking the village, knowing that a lot of people will be doing this at school run time. He is a little bit peed off, to say the least........ Sad

Thats some thing that happens alot around here Angry

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