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1stOmega Newbie Offline Posts: 1 Drives: Vauxhall Omega CDX LPG	Omega LPG Value 11. Dec 2009 at 15:52 Ive got a Vauxhall Omega Saloon with LPG conversion on a S Plate 1999 2.0 Auto CDX built in Phone and Extras only 70,000 on the clock how much it worth with a mot thanks for the help
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Lazydocker Omega King Offline Victim of Pinky's Power Trip! Posts: 11336 Woodbridge, Suffolk Gender: Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified	Re: Omega LPG Value Reply #1 - 11. Dec 2009 at 16:00 Hello and welcome... If you're buying a Brand New car it's worth £2k... If you're just looking to sell then it's worth what someone will pay. Tax? MOT? Service history? Last cambelt change? These all affect price IMHO but I'd be expecting £500-900 at the most TBH Edited because I was being a bit miserly
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davethediver Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1323 Blackburn, Lancs. Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD Facelift (2001)	Re: Omega LPG Value Reply #2 - 11. Dec 2009 at 16:01 Why are you looking to sell, see if youve been fleeced Work carried out on it, pictures, condition all would help but as a guess maybe 600 -1000 depending on the lpg conversion EDIT - Must type faster and not be as generous with my valuations
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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: Omega LPG Value Reply #3 - 11. Dec 2009 at 16:02 LPG in reality makes little difference to the value of a car, you'd get abou £900 on a good day
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pembroke Junior Member Offline Posts: 126 Suffolk Gender: Drives: X-Reg 2.5 OMEGA CDX	Re: Omega LPG Value Reply #4 - 11. Dec 2009 at 16:33 tunnie wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 16:02: LPG in reality makes little difference to the value of a car, you'd get abou £900 on a good day If a car runs on LPG and greatly reduces fuel costs, why would that make little difference? I would pay more for a performance car that returned 50 mpg instead of 25mpg, sounds like common sense?
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Reply #5 - 11. Dec 2009 at 16:44

pembroke wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 16:33:

tunnie wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 16:02:

LPG in reality makes little difference to the value of a car, you'd get abou £900 on a good day

If a car runs on LPG and greatly reduces fuel costs, why would that make little difference? I would pay more for a performance car that returned 50 mpg instead of 25mpg, sounds like common sense?

Not a lot of people want LPG, they take up huge amounts of the boot, make them much more impractical, you can't fold down seats and push things through.

Unless you got for smaller hidden tanks, then range is an issue. LPG enabled car will sell for about the same as standrd petrol, onces listed £1k above book are just kidding themselves.

I am only doing it as i want to reduce my £400 a month fuel bill, with a car i know and trust.

90% of people just buy a car that works, and don't want to have to fiddle with LPG settings every so often.

If i had to buy again, and needed to keep fuel costs down i would go the diesel route, and not LPG, as its just as economical.

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Reply #6 - 11. Dec 2009 at 17:05

tunnie wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 16:44:

pembroke wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 16:33:

tunnie wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 16:02:

LPG in reality makes little difference to the value of a car, you'd get abou £900 on a good day

If a car runs on LPG and greatly reduces fuel costs, why would that make little difference? I would pay more for a performance car that returned 50 mpg instead of 25mpg, sounds like common sense?

Not a lot of people want LPG, they take up huge amounts of the boot, make them much more impractical, you can't fold down seats and push things through.

Unless you got for smaller hidden tanks, then range is an issue. LPG enabled car will sell for about the same as standrd petrol, onces listed £1k above book are just kidding themselves.

I am only doing it as i want to reduce my £400 a month fuel bill, with a car i know and trust.

90% of people just buy a car that works, and don't want to have to fiddle with LPG settings every so often.

If i had to buy again, and needed to keep fuel costs down i would go the diesel route, and not LPG, as its just as economical.

I beg to differ... Diesel is twice the price of LPG, if not a bit more, and requires a lot more servicing. Plus, when an oil burner goes wrong it is expensive (as a generalisation) whereas a LPG/Petrol may be cheaper... Plus you get the fun and power of a big petrol for the same running costs as a hatchback Thumbs Up!

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Reply #7 - 11. Dec 2009 at 17:35

Economy of Diesel v LPG.... Sad

Running a 3.2 litre 1.5 tonne Omega it's costing me about 14 pence a mile on LPG.

With diesel costing 111 p a litre here .. thats £5.04 a gallon, on diesel I'd have to average 36 mpg to equal LPG costs.

Now there are lots of diesel motors that get better than 36 mpg ... but how many match the performance and comfort of my 3.2 Omega ???

And thats ignoreing the previous post which I whole heartedly agree with

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Lazydocker Omega King Offline Victim of Pinky's Power Trip! Posts: 11336 Woodbridge, Suffolk Gender: Drives: 2003 3.2 Elite Estate LPG Converted, inspected and Certified	Re: Omega LPG Value Reply #8 - 11. Dec 2009 at 17:38 But I will add that the potential inconvenience of having a tank does need to be included in the equation All things considered... I'm still after a 3.2 estate, which I'll Gas Convert with the Stag kit and a toroidal tank in the spare wheel well, to run into the ground.
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Reply #9 - 11. Dec 2009 at 17:50

Entwood wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 17:35:

Economy of Diesel v LPG.... Sad

Running a 3.2 litre 1.5 tonne Omega it's costing me about 14 pence a mile on LPG.

With diesel costing 111 p a litre here .. thats £5.04 a gallon, on diesel I'd have to average 36 mpg to equal LPG costs.

Now there are lots of diesel motors that get better than 36 mpg ... but how many match the performance and comfort of my 3.2 Omega ???

And thats ignoreing the previous post which I whole heartedly agree with

Thats whats putting me off converting the V6, i am averaging that now just on petrol! (slightly more id say 15p mile) - I spend all my time on the motorway so converting a 3.2 is not going to give me anything.

I am predicting 8/9p a mile on LPG if i can get 25mpg @ LPG 49.0 per litre, i get 31-35 on average with petrol, so i think 25 is do-able.

chipped 2.5 TD will easily do more than 36 on a run, id say more like 45-50, still have comfort of the Omega, smooth 6 pots, just not as much power.

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Reply #10 - 11. Dec 2009 at 17:58

I see your point entirely .... but the 14 p/mile is over nearly 2 years and includes towing a rather large caravan some decent distances .. ie south of France !!!

Looking at the spreadsheet, on runs up to Huddersfield when the lad lived there, so mostly motorway cruising ... it was running at a shade under 9.0 pence a mile ... so using that it would need a diesel to get around 45 mpg to be equal .....

At the end of the day it's your choice .. I wanted the grunt and flexibility of the 3.2 petrol ... so bought one and gassed it ... but it wouldn't suit everyone..

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Reply #11 - 11. Dec 2009 at 18:01

Entwood wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 17:58:

I see your point entirely .... but the 14 p/mile is over nearly 2 years and includes towing a rather large caravan some decent distances .. ie south of France !!!

Looking at the spreadsheet, on runs up to Huddersfield when the lad lived there, so mostly motorway cruising ... it was running at a shade under 9.0 pence a mile ... so using that it would need a diesel to get around 45 mpg to be equal .....

At the end of the day it's your choice .. I wanted the grunt and flexibility of the 3.2 petrol ... so bought one and gassed it ... but it wouldn't suit everyone..

Thats more like it, and what i expect to get. Main reason i am going LPG is i am no longer contracting and want to reduce my fuel bill. Also the amount of times a diesel has kept up with mother tunnies 3.0 is shocking Shocked

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Reply #12 - 11. Dec 2009 at 18:03

Entwood wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 17:58:

I see your point entirely .... but the 14 p/mile is over nearly 2 years and includes towing a rather large caravan some decent distances .. ie south of France !!!

Looking at the spreadsheet, on runs up to Huddersfield when the lad lived there, so mostly motorway cruising ... it was running at a shade under 9.0 pence a mile ... so using that it would need a diesel to get around 45 mpg to be equal .....

At the end of the day it's your choice .. I wanted the grunt and flexibility of the 3.2 petrol ... so bought one and gassed it ... but it wouldn't suit everyone..

I'm in a similar situation to tunnie, 2.2 and somewhere in the region of 3-4K miles a month.

I had thought about the 3.2 and gassing it fuel prices in the uk are getting a bit steep Angry

But then their is the issue of insurance for us youths and the obligatory marks on the licence i would surely end up with Grin

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Reply #13 - 11. Dec 2009 at 18:06

davethediver wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 18:03:

Entwood wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 17:58:

I see your point entirely .... but the 14 p/mile is over nearly 2 years and includes towing a rather large caravan some decent distances .. ie south of France !!!

Looking at the spreadsheet, on runs up to Huddersfield when the lad lived there, so mostly motorway cruising ... it was running at a shade under 9.0 pence a mile ... so using that it would need a diesel to get around 45 mpg to be equal .....

At the end of the day it's your choice .. I wanted the grunt and flexibility of the 3.2 petrol ... so bought one and gassed it ... but it wouldn't suit everyone..

I'm in a similar situation to tunnie, 2.2 and somewhere in the region of 3-4K miles a month.

I had thought about the 3.2 and gassing it fuel prices in the uk are getting a bit steep Angry

But then their is the issue of insurance for us youths and the obligatory marks on the licence i would surely end up with Grin

Yup, insurance is more, i also find the 2.2 more relaxing to drive. Which is because i don't race anyone, in the Estate, i know i can 'have' that person, or if someone is tail gating, i can boot it away.

2.2 i know, i can't beat anything, so the cruise is set, and off i goes, i won't chase anything or try to boot it, because it just won't win.

Or maybe i need to control myself with more power under the toe Grin

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Reply #14 - 11. Dec 2009 at 19:04

tunnie wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 18:06:

davethediver wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 18:03:

Entwood wrote on 11. Dec 2009 at 17:58:

I see your point entirely .... but the 14 p/mile is over nearly 2 years and includes towing a rather large caravan some decent distances .. ie south of France !!!

Looking at the spreadsheet, on runs up to Huddersfield when the lad lived there, so mostly motorway cruising ... it was running at a shade under 9.0 pence a mile ... so using that it would need a diesel to get around 45 mpg to be equal .....

At the end of the day it's your choice .. I wanted the grunt and flexibility of the 3.2 petrol ... so bought one and gassed it ... but it wouldn't suit everyone..

I'm in a similar situation to tunnie, 2.2 and somewhere in the region of 3-4K miles a month.

I had thought about the 3.2 and gassing it fuel prices in the uk are getting a bit steep Angry

But then their is the issue of insurance for us youths and the obligatory marks on the licence i would surely end up with Grin

Yup, insurance is more, i also find the 2.2 more relaxing to drive. Which is because i don't race anyone, in the Estate, i know i can 'have' that person, or if someone is tail gating, i can boot it away.

2.2 i know, i can't beat anything, so the cruise is set, and off i goes, i won't chase anything or try to boot it, because it just won't win.

Or maybe i need to control myself with more power under the toe Grin

Rather starngely I've found that I'm generally more sedate with a big car than when I was in my previous, less well powered cars....... Or perhaps that's just getting older Undecided

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