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Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks
Reply #15 - 17. Dec 2009 at 00:28

Martin Imber wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 23:45:

threppence wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 23:13:

Martin Imber wrote on 16. Dec 2009 at 20:57:

0.038% is the percentage of CO² in the atmosphere.

Less than Argon

And it is essential for plant growth.

I think all we need to do is plant trees and let nature do its best.

Oh and deal with particulates - a bigger threat than an essential to life gas

Agreed, does anyone remember the 'Plant a tree in '73' campaign to get us to plant more trees or I am just imagining it because no else I've spoken to remembers it.
And I know for a fact at least 2 of those were born pre '73 Grin

I have a few small conker trees as well - does anyone want one?

Yes, how and what etc.... Thumbs Up!

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Martin Imber Over Active Poster Offline LPG Omega V6 - Keyfobs Rebuilt Posts: 20110 Worcester Gender: Drives: 2001 Omega 2.6CD LPG & 3.0 cams	Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks Reply #16 - 17. Dec 2009 at 08:23 Not sure how they would get to the north east but I have 5 or 6 around 1 to 2 foot high ones
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Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks
Reply #17 - 17. Dec 2009 at 20:40

I was watching Newsnight last night. They conducted a "scientific experiment" where a "scientist", watched by some Members of the Public, shone a couple of lamps onto two plastic bottles, one of which contained more CO₂ than the other. When the temperature rose higher in that bottle, some of the MoPs were converted to believing in climate change.

What the experiment actually proved was that:

the average man in the street has no understanding of science or the scientific method
some "scientists" are prepared to collude with the media in order to hoodwink the public
people cannot distinguish between climate change and the greenhouse effect, let alone understand the concept of a causal relationship

The saddest part was that a senior scientific advisor to the Government, complete with knighthood, stood there and watched this travesty and then spouted the usual Government climate change disaster line.

I really don't know how serious the increase in atmospheric CO₂ is, and I don't know if it can trigger climate change, and I don't know what the consequences of climate change will be. But I do know bad science I see it, and I do know when my intelligence is being insulted, and I do know when a bunch of fanatics is trying to bully me into seeing things their way. Sad

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Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks
Reply #18 - 17. Dec 2009 at 20:47

jereboam wrote on 17. Dec 2009 at 20:40:

I was watching Newsnight last night. They conducted a "scientific experiment" where a "scientist", watched by some Members of the Public, shone a couple of lamps onto two plastic bottles, one of which contained more CO₂ than the other. When the temperature rose higher in that bottle, some of the MoPs were converted to believing in climate change.

What the experiment actually proved was that:

the average man in the street has no understanding of science or the scientific method
some "scientists" are prepared to collude with the media in order to hoodwink the public
people cannot distinguish between climate change and the greenhouse effect, let alone understand the concept of a causal relationship

The saddest part was that a senior scientific advisor to the Government, complete with knighthood, stood there and watched this travesty and then spouted the usual Government climate change disaster line.

I really don't know how serious the increase in atmospheric CO₂ is, and I don't know if it can trigger climate change, and I don't know what the consequences of climate change will be. But I do know bad science I see it, and I do know when my intelligence is being insulted, and I do know when a bunch of fanatics is trying to bully me into seeing things their way. Sad

That daft bint claims to be a 'space scientist' and appears from time to time when a satellite is launched. She frequently gets caught out and, wait for this.......said the sun was 75 million miles from earth on her last appearance. I nearly smashed the feckin telly with indignation.

I think she's really Rusty Lee.

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Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks
Reply #19 - 17. Dec 2009 at 21:01

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jereboam wrote on 17. Dec 2009 at 20:40:

I was watching Newsnight last night. They conducted a "scientific experiment" where a "scientist", watched by some Members of the Public, shone a couple of lamps onto two plastic bottles, one of which contained more CO₂ than the other. When the temperature rose higher in that bottle, some of the MoPs were converted to believing in climate change.

What the experiment actually proved was that:

the average man in the street has no understanding of science or the scientific method
some "scientists" are prepared to collude with the media in order to hoodwink the public
people cannot distinguish between climate change and the greenhouse effect, let alone understand the concept of a causal relationship

The saddest part was that a senior scientific advisor to the Government, complete with knighthood, stood there and watched this travesty and then spouted the usual Government climate change disaster line.

I really don't know how serious the increase in atmospheric CO₂ is, and I don't know if it can trigger climate change, and I don't know what the consequences of climate change will be. But I do know bad science I see it, and I do know when my intelligence is being insulted, and I do know when a bunch of fanatics is trying to bully me into seeing things their way. Sad

That daft bint claims to be a 'space scientist' and appears from time to time when a satellite is launched. She frequently gets caught out and, wait for this.......said the sun was 75 million miles from earth on her last appearance. I nearly smashed the feckin telly with indignation.

I think she's really Rusty Lee.

At last we've found the cause of global warming the Sun has moved 18 million miles closer to the earth.

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Tony H Omega Baron Offline Posts: 4164 liverpool Gender: Drives: 2.5 ELITE	Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks Reply #20 - 17. Dec 2009 at 21:11 Two points How can we hand out billions of pounds in aid when our country is all but f*cking bankrupt. Man wasn't around to cause the globel warming on the occasion that all the dinosaurs got cooked!
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Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks
Reply #21 - 17. Dec 2009 at 22:10

jereboam wrote on 17. Dec 2009 at 20:40:

I was watching Newsnight last night. They conducted a "scientific experiment" where a "scientist", watched by some Members of the Public, shone a couple of lamps onto two plastic bottles, one of which contained more CO₂ than the other. When the temperature rose higher in that bottle, some of the MoPs were converted to believing in climate change.

What the experiment actually proved was that:

the average man in the street has no understanding of science or the scientific method
some "scientists" are prepared to collude with the media in order to hoodwink the public
people cannot distinguish between climate change and the greenhouse effect, let alone understand the concept of a causal relationship

The saddest part was that a senior scientific advisor to the Government, complete with knighthood, stood there and watched this travesty and then spouted the usual Government climate change disaster line.

I really don't know how serious the increase in atmospheric CO₂ is, and I don't know if it can trigger climate change, and I don't know what the consequences of climate change will be. But I do know bad science I see it, and I do know when my intelligence is being insulted, and I do know when a bunch of fanatics is trying to bully me into seeing things their way. Sad

Very well reasoned J Thumbs Up!

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Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks
Reply #22 - 17. Dec 2009 at 23:27

Exactly. Pointless patronizing telly strikes again. No wonder i never watch it.
Tony H has a point. We've had god knows how many climate changes over the years that affect different species & evolution in general (ice age) etc.
Suddenly everyone's an expert & we can put the world right if we stop doing this/start doing that.....

This is starting to sound like one of these blockbuster movies that i never watch...roll eyes smilie!

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Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks
Reply #23 - 18. Dec 2009 at 00:10

"President Chavez brought the house down.

When he said the process in Copenhagen was “not democratic, it is not inclusive, but isn’t that the reality of our world, the world is really and imperial dictatorship…down with imperial dictatorships” he got a rousing round of applause.

When he said there was a “silent and terrible ghost in the room” and that ghost was called capitalism, the applause was deafening.

But then he wound up to his grand conclusion – 20 minutes after his 5 minute speaking time was supposed to have ended and after quoting everyone from Karl Marx to Jesus Christ - “our revolution seeks to help all people…socialism, the other ghost that is probably wandering around this room, that’s the way to save the planet, capitalism is the road to hell....let’s fight against capitalism and make it obey us.” He won a standing ovation.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/putti...

Yes, it's all about science isn't it? ( [/sarc off] Shocked

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Albs Omega King Offline The upgrades are ongoing. Posts: 15083 North Essex Gender: Drives: 2000 2.5CD with LPG/Honda cbr600 FX	Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks Reply #24 - 18. Dec 2009 at 05:57 And that Nick,is what the whole scam is really about.redistribution of wealth wrapped up in scientific gobbledogook,hoping that the man on the street is gullible enough to swallow it.
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Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks
Reply #25 - 18. Dec 2009 at 21:38

"Prime Minister Gordon Brown has now offered, at the climate change conference in Copenhagen, a cut of 42 per cent in Britain’s carbon dioxide emissions by 2020. That would be a massive increase from the current 20 per cent target. This research note shows that meeting such a target could mean massive cuts in Britain’s national income."

http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/research/2009/12/new-research-the-economic-cost...

Un-be-liev-able. Angry

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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks Reply #26 - 18. Dec 2009 at 21:41 don't you get tired of posting all this stuff Nickbat?
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Nickbat Omega Lord Offline Posts: 7167 London NW7 Gender: Drives: 2002 2.6CD Auto	Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks Reply #27 - 18. Dec 2009 at 21:44 tunnie wrote on 18. Dec 2009 at 21:41: don't you get tired of posting all this stuff Nickbat? "this stuff", as you put it, will affect the lives of each and every one of us in the UK. If you don't want me to post about this subject, just say so.
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Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks
Reply #28 - 18. Dec 2009 at 21:55

Nickbat wrote on 18. Dec 2009 at 21:44:

tunnie wrote on 18. Dec 2009 at 21:41:

don't you get tired of posting all this stuff Nickbat? Undecided

"this stuff", as you put it, will affect the lives of each and every one of us in the UK. If you don't want me to post about this subject, just say so. Sad

The public has no say what so ever in these matters, be it europe bull or current policys, every goverment just does what it wants when its in, no matter who is in. They are all the same, so i (personally) am not really interested in these European policys or climate bollox. There is still no real evidence that humans are affecting this climate, and thats its just not natural warming.

So i just get on doing the things i want to do, earning best money i can, and doing things i want to do

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Re: Copenhagen Climate Talks
Reply #29 - 18. Dec 2009 at 22:04

tunnie wrote on 18. Dec 2009 at 21:55:

Nickbat wrote on 18. Dec 2009 at 21:44:

tunnie wrote on 18. Dec 2009 at 21:41:

don't you get tired of posting all this stuff Nickbat? Undecided

"this stuff", as you put it, will affect the lives of each and every one of us in the UK. If you don't want me to post about this subject, just say so. Sad

The public has no say what so ever in these matters, be it europe bull or current policys, every goverment just does what it wants when its in, no matter who is in. They are all the same, so i (personally) am not really interested in these European policys or climate bollox. There is still no real evidence that humans are affecting this climate, and thats its just not natural warming.

So i just get on doing the things i want to do, earning best money i can, and doing things i want to do

..and should that become impossible because of these policies, what then? Roll Eyes

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