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Richie London Omega King Offline A HANDSOME DEVIL OF A MAN!! Posts: 10146 heathrow Gender: Drives: a blinking lovely 2001 2.5 elite auto.	only in britain and under labour 21. Dec 2009 at 11:14 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1237390/Thug-Walid-Salem-boasts-untoucha... this man should be serving life and nothing less. criminal who will never change. nothing but pure scum.
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Mantahatch Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1637 Gender:	Re: only in britain and under labour Reply #1 - 21. Dec 2009 at 11:56 I can't make a comment on this.
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Pitchfork Omega Baron Offline Barndances & Morris Posts: 2493 Tadley (near Basingrad) Gender: Drives: 2006 Citroen C5 Diesel Estate	Re: only in britain and under labour Reply #2 - 21. Dec 2009 at 12:09 It's nothing to do with politics but the way in which the Daily Mail reports almost everything makes the gulible beleive it is Suggest buying a proper newspaper to remedy the problem
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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: only in britain and under labour Reply #3 - 21. Dec 2009 at 12:15 Pitchfork wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 12:09: It's nothing to do with politics but the way in which the Daily Mail reports almost everything makes the gulible beleive it is Suggest buying a proper newspaper to remedy the problem Agree with that
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Re: only in britain and under labour
Reply #4 - 21. Dec 2009 at 12:23

Pitchfork wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 12:09:

It's nothing to do with politics but the way in which the Daily Mail reports almost everything makes the gulible beleive it is
Suggest buying a proper newspaper to remedy the problem

ive read this story on 3 sites, all seem to report the same to me, i guess im just taken in by it all then and
a complete idiot. the criminal justice system is not a complete an utter failure to society. a sentance should be as is given.
life should mean life and so should 12 months be 12 months

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Re: only in britain and under labour
Reply #5 - 21. Dec 2009 at 12:32

Richie London wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 12:23:

Pitchfork wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 12:09:

It's nothing to do with politics but the way in which the Daily Mail reports almost everything makes the gulible beleive it is
Suggest buying a proper newspaper to remedy the problem

ive read this story on 3 sites, all seem to report the same to me, i guess im just taken in by it all then and
a complete idiot. the criminal justice system is not a complete an utter failure to society. a sentance should be as is given.
life should mean life and so should 12 months be 12 months

You are not an idiot at all, Richie, nor are you gullible. Gullibility lies with those who unfailingly decry the Daily Mail, and other centre-Right papers, without providing a shred of evidence whatsoever that what is printed is not correct. The legal system in this country is the responsibility of the Government. If it fails, then the Government must take responsibility. Thus, this story has everything to do with politics.

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Pitchfork Omega Baron Offline Barndances & Morris Posts: 2493 Tadley (near Basingrad) Gender: Drives: 2006 Citroen C5 Diesel Estate	Re: only in britain and under labour Reply #6 - 21. Dec 2009 at 12:34 More lamposts & rope required
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tunnie Over Active Poster Offline Posts: 22520 London, W3 Gender: Drives: 2.2 CD (LPG'd) & BMW R1200 GS	Re: only in britain and under labour Reply #7 - 21. Dec 2009 at 12:47 Pitchfork wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 12:34: More lamposts & rope required With Nickbat, those lamposts better have energy saving light bulbs in them, and made from eco friendly rope
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mathewst Omega Knight Offline Posts: 1499 Split, Croatia Gender: Drives: omega 2.2i 16v	Re: only in britain and under labour Reply #8 - 21. Dec 2009 at 13:07 Well couldn't believe my eyes when I read the article. And I thought courts in my country are ridiculous. Guess UK's are just as bad.
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Re: only in britain and under labour
Reply #9 - 21. Dec 2009 at 13:26

Richie London wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 12:23:

Pitchfork wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 12:09:

It's nothing to do with politics but the way in which the Daily Mail reports almost everything makes the gulible beleive it is
Suggest buying a proper newspaper to remedy the problem

ive read this story on 3 sites, all seem to report the same to me, i guess im just taken in by it all then and
a complete idiot. the criminal justice system is not a complete an utter failure to society. a sentance should be as is given.
life should mean life and so should 12 months be 12 months

Sounds stupidly obvious but it still has to be said.

Part of the deceit of our modern society I'm afraid.

Couldn't agree more.

As a PS. I have a couple of friends/acquaintances who have been banged up for things they deny doing. Seems they could reduce their time inside by lying and saying they did do it. Help!

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Re: only in britain and under labour
Reply #10 - 21. Dec 2009 at 13:40

This highlights a number of questions, specific and general.
Where do you draw the line on reasonable self defence.They technically were not in danger anymore but yet I understand their actions.

The guy is obviously a career criminal so should we start employing a system whereby if you re-offend then you are taken out of society with a life term, irrespective of what crime you reoffended on.

The reoffending rates are above 60% so we end up with an enormous prison population that needs to be paid for.

There are more people locked up now than 20 years ago so that either suggests that prison is not working, going to prison prevents re-admission to regular society so further creating a criminal underclass, or society is falling in general.Or a mixture of all 3.

Wish I had some answers Huh

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Martin Imber Over Active Poster Offline LPG Omega V6 - Keyfobs Rebuilt Posts: 20110 Worcester Gender: Drives: 2001 Omega 2.6CD LPG & 3.0 cams	Re: only in britain and under labour Reply #11 - 21. Dec 2009 at 13:42 The brothers should have finished the job!
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Re: only in britain and under labour
Reply #12 - 21. Dec 2009 at 15:38

Nickbat wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 12:32:

Richie London wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 12:23:

Pitchfork wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 12:09:

It's nothing to do with politics but the way in which the Daily Mail reports almost everything makes the gulible beleive it is
Suggest buying a proper newspaper to remedy the problem

ive read this story on 3 sites, all seem to report the same to me, i guess im just taken in by it all then and
a complete idiot. the criminal justice system is not a complete an utter failure to society. a sentance should be as is given.
life should mean life and so should 12 months be 12 months

You are not an idiot at all, Richie, nor are you gullible. Gullibility lies with those who unfailingly decry the Daily Mail, and other centre-Right papers, without providing a shred of evidence whatsoever that what is printed is not correct. The legal system in this country is the responsibility of the Government. If it fails, then the Government must take responsibility. Thus, this story has everything to do with politics.

aaah where would the Mail be without good honest citizens leaping to their defence, heres the story without gutter press spin (the bare facts are bad enough - the Mail doesn't need to embelish it, so why do it?)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1260879889

wherever its been reported its been widely condemned as a failure of commonsense, unfortunately for Mr Hussain he used unreasonable force after pursuing the criminal and as I stated back then, a suspended sentence would have been more appropriate but let's not start arming ourselves to the teeth like the yanks waiting for an excuse for retribution (look up "cop pulls gun during snowball fight" on youtube)

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Re: only in britain and under labour
Reply #13 - 21. Dec 2009 at 15:40

Martin Imber wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 13:42:

The brothers should have finished the job!

It depends if we want to be a civilised society or not.

I got an inkling from the original reports that the injuries done by the victim and his cohorts may well have been inflicted some time after the event when self-restraint should have kicked-in.

If they gave the baddies a good kicking/batting as punishment (rather than in defense) then I can see why the courts would have an issue with it. That is what they are there for!

On the other hand... when people see the courts repeatedly fail to do what is considered to be their duty, it is not surprising that the retribution is carried out 'while the offended feel in the mood'! You only really feel inclined to back down when you have confidence in the proper authorities.

I have some sympathy with Munir.

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Pitchfork Omega Baron Offline Barndances & Morris Posts: 2493 Tadley (near Basingrad) Gender: Drives: 2006 Citroen C5 Diesel Estate	Re: only in britain and under labour Reply #14 - 21. Dec 2009 at 15:41 The Daily Mail does have its' uses........ When the Andrex runs out!
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