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Turk Omega Baron Offline Posts: 3364 Llanelli, Wales Gender: Drives: Two tractors...a chipped manual 2.5td CD (F/Lift '00) & a Hardly-Movinson XL1200	'My advice to poor is to shoplift' 21. Dec 2009 at 21:20 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1237470/Priest-advises-congregation-shop...
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Re: 'My advice to poor is to shoplift'
Reply #1 - 21. Dec 2009 at 21:23

Turk wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 21:20:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1237470/Priest-advises-congregation-shop...

In an episode of the simpsons, someone ask the priest if is wrong for a hungry man to steal a loaf of bread. And the priest replies it is not wrong.
Did our boys in blue complain about that ?

OK over simplyfying it a bit but hey I bet the simpsons reach a bigger audience.

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Entwood Omega King Offline Quietly Confident Posts: 13708 North Wiltshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 Elite (with LPG)	Re: 'My advice to poor is to shoplift' Reply #2 - 21. Dec 2009 at 21:24 What a prat ... I wonder .. could he be done for "Incitement" .. or "Aiding and Abetting" ... Shame he can't be done for "Abject Stupidity"
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Bertie Ex Member	Re: 'My advice to poor is to shoplift' Reply #3 - 21. Dec 2009 at 21:26 Well 3 people took him up on his advice on our retail park today...£2,500 grands worth of stock from Boots 2 attempted trolley push outs at sainburys all full of booze and the day aint over yet....
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Martin Imber Over Active Poster Offline LPG Omega V6 - Keyfobs Rebuilt Posts: 20110 Worcester Gender: Drives: 2001 Omega 2.6CD LPG & 3.0 cams	Re: 'My advice to poor is to shoplift' Reply #4 - 21. Dec 2009 at 21:27 Very interesting - and who makes them poor? I am not commenting either way as to be honest I do not know what I would do in that circumstance
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Entwood Omega King Offline Quietly Confident Posts: 13708 North Wiltshire Gender: Drives: 3.2 Elite (with LPG)	Re: 'My advice to poor is to shoplift' Reply #5 - 21. Dec 2009 at 21:28 Quote: Well 3 people took him up on his advice on our retail park today...£2,500 grands worth of stock from Boots 2 attempted trolley push outs at sainburys all full of booze and the day aint over yet.... And in court they'll claim .... "The priest told me to" ... yeah .. priest told you to nick booze ???
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Re: 'My advice to poor is to shoplift'
Reply #6 - 21. Dec 2009 at 21:29

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Well 3 people took him up on his advice on our retail park today...£2,500 grands worth of stock from Boots Shocked

2 attempted trolley push outs at sainburys all full of booze and the day aint over yet.... Roll Eyes

I think he means a loaf of bread or a bit of fruit not the entire drink aisle.

As before very grey - should not do it - but better that than burglary, or mugging.

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Holy Count Ex Member	Re: 'My advice to poor is to shoplift' Reply #7 - 21. Dec 2009 at 21:31 What's this about God's love for the poor outweighing that for the rich ???
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Desperate Den Omega King Offline Posts: 11881	Re: 'My advice to poor is to shoplift' Reply #8 - 21. Dec 2009 at 23:25 Another example of how the 'Church' has made itself largely irrelevant to many in today’s society. A shocking illustration of simplistic and deeply flawed thinking far removed from any semblance of realism!
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Jimbo B Intermediate Member Offline Catch my Cupra if you can Posts: 283 bournemouth Gender: Drives: Drives Seat Cupra and 2.5 v6 cdx	Re: 'My advice to poor is to shoplift' Reply #9 - 22. Dec 2009 at 07:50 Desperate Den wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 23:25: Another example of how the 'Church' has made itself largely irrelevant to many in today’s society. A shocking illustration of simplistic and deeply flawed thinking far removed from any semblance of realism! Hear Hear Zulu
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Re: 'My advice to poor is to shoplift'
Reply #10 - 22. Dec 2009 at 09:11

Desperate Den wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 23:25:

Another example of how the 'Church' has made itself largely irrelevant to many in today’s society.

A shocking illustration of simplistic and deeply flawed thinking far removed from any semblance of realism!

Not missing the fact that this was said to a relatively small number of people (I'm guessing), was judged by someone to be erroneous (I'm guessing again) and published to a considerably larger audience.

Wouldn't it have been a good idea if someone (the press?) had decided "that's wrong. We won't publish it."? Even better, if the person who got it to the Press went to the "priest" (not a Christian concept I might add!!!) instead and told him he was on very dangerous ground talking like that.

An old-fashioned idea I suppose. Grin

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Re: 'My advice to poor is to shoplift'
Reply #11 - 22. Dec 2009 at 11:40

Chris_H wrote on 22. Dec 2009 at 09:11:

Desperate Den wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 23:25:

Another example of how the 'Church' has made itself largely irrelevant to many in today’s society.

A shocking illustration of simplistic and deeply flawed thinking far removed from any semblance of realism!

Not missing the fact that this was said to a relatively small number of people (I'm guessing), was judged by someone to be erroneous (I'm guessing again) and published to a considerably larger audience.

Wouldn't it have been a good idea if someone (the press?) had decided "that's wrong. We won't publish it."? Even better, if the person who got it to the Press went to the "priest" (not a Christian concept I might add!!!) instead and told him he was on very dangerous ground talking like that.

An old-fashioned idea I suppose. Grin

Perhaps so Chris but unfortunately some elements of the established religious orders have been able to dispense such flawed thinking without sanction for some considerable time.

The effects of such insular thinking may well linger in the minds of those sufficiently vulnerable to accept the words as spoken - without question - to their ultimate detriment.

It seems that now more than ever those who deem it necessary to have a religious element in their lives need true pastoral care not a motivational nudge from the direction of a politically motivated or reckless preacher.

Taking into consideration the mess the Roman Catholic Church had found itself in lately, due mainly the secret and obfuscated way various scandals have been dealt with, I feel that such incidents should be reported as widely and as transparently as possible.

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Re: 'My advice to poor is to shoplift'
Reply #12 - 22. Dec 2009 at 12:02

Desperate Den wrote on 22. Dec 2009 at 11:40:

Chris_H wrote on 22. Dec 2009 at 09:11:

Desperate Den wrote on 21. Dec 2009 at 23:25:

Another example of how the 'Church' has made itself largely irrelevant to many in today’s society.

A shocking illustration of simplistic and deeply flawed thinking far removed from any semblance of realism!

Not missing the fact that this was said to a relatively small number of people (I'm guessing), was judged by someone to be erroneous (I'm guessing again) and published to a considerably larger audience.

Wouldn't it have been a good idea if someone (the press?) had decided "that's wrong. We won't publish it."? Even better, if the person who got it to the Press went to the "priest" (not a Christian concept I might add!!!) instead and told him he was on very dangerous ground talking like that.

An old-fashioned idea I suppose. Grin

Perhaps so Chris but unfortunately some elements of the established religious orders have been able to dispense such flawed thinking without sanction for some considerable time.

The effects of such insular thinking may well linger in the minds of those sufficiently vulnerable to accept the words as spoken - without question - to their ultimate detriment.

It seems that now more than ever those who deem it necessary to have a religious element in their lives need true pastoral care not a motivational nudge from the direction of a politically motivated or reckless preacher.

Taking into consideration the mess the Roman Catholic Church had found itself in lately, due mainly the secret and obfuscated way various scandals have been dealt with, I feel that such incidents should be reported as widely and as transparently as possible.

There are sanctions and sanctions. I was proposing that a first-hand (or should it be ear?) listener who has a basic understanding of right and wrong might provide the remedial action and keep it local but dealt-with.

I must say I wondered if this chap was talking to a group made up entirely of people fresh out of prison who needed to be persuaded to make a move in the right direction!

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Re: 'My advice to poor is to shoplift'
Reply #13 - 22. Dec 2009 at 12:13

Chris_H wrote on 22. Dec 2009 at 12:02:

There are sanctions and sanctions. I was proposing that a first-hand (or should it be ear?) listener who has a basic understanding of right and wrong might provide the remedial action and keep it local but dealt-with.

I must say I wondered if this chap was talking to a group made up entirely of people fresh out of prison who needed to be persuaded to make a move in the right direction!

Yep, there's merit in that approach Chris, there's no wholly right or wrong answer - like most things in life.

Problems lost their potency if adequately dealt with irrespective of the means of intervention.

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